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Hell Testing

Dec. 30, 2010  2:35 PM
 
(Dec. 30, 2010  12:22 PM)Meteo LDrago Wrote:
(Dec. 29, 2010  5:08 PM)Ultrablader Wrote: And defence too since it's so heavy.
How heavy is it?
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seems that EXCEPT 145 Track,the higher the track,the worsen the result.
however the result may be the best ones because the recoil seems to
be high..

something like 39 grams
Dec. 30, 2010  2:40 PM
 
(Dec. 30, 2010  2:35 PM)aquila112 Wrote:
(Dec. 30, 2010  12:22 PM)Meteo LDrago Wrote:
(Dec. 29, 2010  5:08 PM)Ultrablader Wrote: And defence too since it's so heavy.
How heavy is it?
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seems that EXCEPT 145 Track,the higher the track,the worsen the result.
however the result may be the best ones because the recoil seems to
be high..

something like 39 grams
But it is as flat as a pizza so it may not protect much of the bey
Dec. 30, 2010  3:22 PM
 
This is true but I think it will have some ability with BD145.
Dec. 31, 2010  12:49 PM
 
Yes, BD145 would support Hell in a Defense combo. But what multiple members (including me) say is that it might have some recoil. I wanna buy it sooo badly but I'm currently saving up for URS, so.
Dec. 31, 2010  2:33 PM
 
How about trying Hell Bull 105 CS as a destabilizer?
I would ask you to test it as Hell Bull 90 CS, but since hell is so heavy, it wouldnt really stand a chance.
Dec. 31, 2010  5:00 PM
 
(Dec. 30, 2010  5:56 AM)Nojo294 Wrote: Thnx for the tests Oki! So far 145 is proving to be very efficient in dominating 230 based opponents... and it has the most success overall. Not bad!

What is so surprising we knew this for awhile:
85>145>230>85, IIRC.
Dec. 31, 2010  6:25 PM
 
Hey Okiblaze, I'm wondering something...do you think a metal face on the ch120 height will affect this for better, or for worse? Maybe some tests please. Smile
Dec. 31, 2010  6:29 PM
 
(Dec. 31, 2010  5:00 PM)Dan Wrote:
(Dec. 30, 2010  5:56 AM)Nojo294 Wrote: Thnx for the tests Oki! So far 145 is proving to be very efficient in dominating 230 based opponents... and it has the most success overall. Not bad!

What is so surprising we knew this for awhile:
85>145>230>85, IIRC.

That's mainly for stamina though, I think Nojo was talking about attack.
Dec. 31, 2010  10:47 PM
 
Perhaps similar rules apply, which I think they do..
Dec. 31, 2010  11:02 PM
 
From videos we had seen when Flame Byxis came out, those "rules" definitely seemed to apply for Attack as well.
Dec. 31, 2010  11:12 PM
 
Thanks Kai-V, I thought so too just from seeing tests.
Jan. 02, 2011  2:40 AM
 
Yeah, thanks for clearng that up, Kai-V, I was wondering that too, but tried to refrain from posting... o_0
Jan. 02, 2011  5:41 AM
 
Might I recommend MF Hell (Whatever) 90R2f? You might get better results against R145.
Jan. 02, 2011  7:02 AM
 
(Jan. 02, 2011  5:41 AM)xXKaiouyaXx Wrote: Might I recommend MF Hell (Whatever) 90R2f? You might get better results against R145.

Naturally you will. Too much recoil from R145.
Jan. 02, 2011  7:05 AM
 
but r145 is the current best defence track
Jan. 02, 2011  7:08 AM
 
(Jan. 02, 2011  7:05 AM)aquila112 Wrote: but r145 is the current best defence track

What about 230?
230 completely cancels out the use of any Attack type that is lower then 120 with Attack Combinations achieving a miserable 0 - 10% win rate over 230.
Jan. 02, 2011  7:13 AM
 
(Jan. 02, 2011  7:08 AM)Fyuuor Wrote:
(Jan. 02, 2011  7:05 AM)aquila112 Wrote: but r145 is the current best defence track

What about 230?
230 completely cancels out the use of any Attack type that is lower then 120 with Attack Combinations achieving a miserable 0 - 10% win rate over 230.
230 can be defeated by 145 and isnt bd145 good too it achieves a good win rate over every height
Jan. 02, 2011  7:16 AM
 
Read cuz he just said "that is lower than 120" and bd145 is still in testing.
Jan. 02, 2011  7:36 AM
 
(Jan. 02, 2011  7:05 AM)aquila112 Wrote: but r145 is the current best defence track

Erm... No? It stinks against low combos that can hit the wings, which create too much recoil, resulting in either a very pretty KO, or an outspin.
Jan. 02, 2011  7:44 AM
 
what about testing for DS(defense sharp)?
offtopic srry
Jan. 02, 2011  7:50 AM
 
(Jan. 02, 2011  7:44 AM)Penguin Soldier Wrote: what about testing for DS(defense sharp)?
offtopic srry

There's already a thread for it.
Jan. 02, 2011  7:52 AM
 
there is a thread for that already
EDIT:Beaten
Jan. 02, 2011  7:56 AM
 
(Jan. 02, 2011  7:13 AM)aquila112 Wrote: 230 can be defeated by 145 and isnt bd145 good too it achieves a good win rate over every height

145 based Defence combinations are defeated by 145 Stamina combinations. That's just how it is, Stamina beats Defence.

In regards to 145 Stamina Combinations win rates over 230 Stamina Combinations it isn't exactly rock solid, 145 defeats 230 opponents with only a 50% win rate so it's not definitive that 145 concurs 230.

230 is still the best Defence track currently available.
Jan. 02, 2011  7:58 AM
 
(Jan. 02, 2011  7:50 AM)SSJfisherman Wrote:
(Jan. 02, 2011  7:44 AM)Penguin Soldier Wrote: what about testing for DS(defense sharp)?
offtopic srry

There's already a thread for it.

oh srry
started by okiblaze, i believe?
and uh can you show me the link?
i couldn't find it anywhere srry
offtopic
Jan. 02, 2011  7:58 AM
 
(Dec. 31, 2010  12:49 PM)Jellyboy Wrote: Yes, BD145 would support Hell in a Defense combo. But what multiple members (including me) say is that it might have some recoil. I wanna buy it sooo badly but I'm currently saving up for URS, so.
Why nobody noticed the pizza joke?
Anyway it seems to be nonsense to say that BD145 have recoil.
mostly it is covered by round-and-smooth edges.
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