Hello, maybe you know, why Spriggan Requiem, Maximum Garuda and Garuda G3 have been banned from WBO events? i can not found rulers and detailes about it(((

Hello, maybe you know, why Spriggan Requiem, Maximum Garuda and Garuda G3 have been banned from WBO events? i can not found rulers and detailes about it(((

Sr was dominating the meta, and since Sr was the only real counter to mG/G3, they had to be banned as well or they would dominate the meta once again (remember Garuda was banned before the release of Sr for a bit).
That's the short version. The long version you can find here:
https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-WBO-Org...anned-More

Oh, sorry

Is it possible that G3 will be unbanned once the arrival of S4? or not because of its increased tightness?

Is it possible that G3 will be unbanned once the arrival of S4? or not because of its increased tightness?

Considering that the official World Championship tournaments have it banned(Hasbro wise) I don't know if we'll be seeing it off our ban list anytime soon due to the tightness.

Is it possible that G3 will be unbanned once the arrival of S4? or not because of its increased tightness?

The tighter lock would make it a hard counter to everything other than destabilization. Which can be fixed by using atomic or revolve. It would dominate the meta more than its TT counterpart. It was destined to be banned. And unless S4 has weak teeth S4 would get banned quickly.

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You guys are triggering me it's Spryzen Requiem S3 not 4

You guys are triggering me it's Spryzen Requiem S3 not 4

Well we didn't know that until just recently, but at this point, they're basically the same thing, so I personally do not see the problem.

You guys are triggering me it's Spryzen Requiem S3 not 4

Well we didn't know that until just recently, but at this point, they're basically the same thing, so I personally do not see the problem.







If its Spryzen Requiem S3 then would be call it SR3?

Well we didn't know that until just recently, but at this point, they're basically the same thing, so I personally do not see the problem.







If its Spryzen Requiem S3 then would be call it SR3?

Personally, I like to use SRS3 for Spryzen Requiem S3, because some people might confuse SR3 for Regulus R3 (since it's also known as Shelter Regulus and we would need to differentiate it from Roktavor R3). But really, as long as you're getting your point across, that's all that matters really.

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K 7GAt (Odd) vs F3 7GAt (Even)
- K 7GAt: 20 SFs (100% Win Rate)
- F3 7GAt: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)

This was so weird. It might've been due to Kerbeus' protusions on its Layer that made it hard for Fafnir F3 to spin equalize or maybe it was something else. But still, the fact that Fafnir F3 (a SwitchStrike/God Layer) got completely dominated by Kerbeus (a Basic Layer) blows my mind.

Yeah, I made a thread about finding a counter for drain fafnir and it seemed to work quite well. I also found that U2 can beat it and that J3 7G Gr was able to beat even dF P Ds

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Since G3 has been banned I think it's a good time to post a new list, and given that Kerbeus has been found to be a hard counter to F3 I think it's fair to add it to the list until new better layers for stamina are released or G3 gets unbanned. Here's my suggested update to the previous list:


==Attack==
Legend Spryzen S3 2/4/5/7 Meteor/Vortex Xtreme/Hunter
Xcalius X3 1/2/4/5/7 Cross/Glaive/Meteor/Vortex Xtreme/Hunter/Atomic/Needle/Trans

==Defense==
Fafnir F3 2/4/5/7 Cross/Glaive Atomic

==Stamina==
Kerbeus 2/4/5/7 Cross/Glaive Atomic


I simply added Kerbeus and took out G3. If anyone wants to tweak the list please do so. And if someone can change the first post so that newcomers can see something other than single and dual layers in the opening post that'd be appreciated.

For defence add J2 7M U

Is 8 better than 2/4/5/7? As far as the wiki goes, it is recommended for collection purposes only, with 4 and 7 as better alternatives. I know J2 is pretty good, but I am unsure if there's testing that supports it being useful competitively against Switchstrike beys. And given Needle is outclassed by Atomic, testing should be done to show that your combo is able to defeat Switchstrike beys.
And if it is for purely Burst defense, wouldn't something like 4 or 7 further aid that burst resistance rather than pairing it with a core disk that is prone to bursting?
I haven't done the testing myself, so I'm just saying what I can find on the wiki and the testings I have seen. If you can perform some tests so we can add J2 to the top tier list showing how it performs well against X3 or LS3 (right spin) that'd be greatly appreciated. I'll look through old tests to see if I can find anything and edit my post accordingly.

I have pit this combo against S3.7M.X and D3.8G.H and it takes no burst damage. I will test it's resistance to low velocity burst when I get home from school. Raw stamina wise what is better, 8 or 7?

Note my copy of needle has the strongest spring of all my drivers and atomic is being used by F3.P.At

7 is the best disk out right now

@[Rebel Blader]

K 7GAt (Odd) vs F3 7GAt (Even)
- K 7GAt: 20 SFs (100% Win Rate)
- F3 7GAt: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)

This was so weird. It might've been due to Kerbeus' protusions on its Layer that made it hard for Fafnir F3 to spin equalize or maybe it was something else. But still, the fact that Fafnir F3 (a SwitchStrike/God Layer) got completely dominated by Kerbeus (a Basic Layer) blows my mind.

Yeah, I made a thread about finding a counter for drain fafnir and it seemed to work quite well. I also found that U2 can beat it and that J3 7G Gr was able to beat even dF P Ds

This thread is for Hasbro only combos, and I am unaware of Gr and Ds having been released just yet by Hasbro, and the name for drain Fafnir in the Hasbro scene is F3, unless you're using the TT version, in which case this is the wrong thread to talk about that.

People here are saying that K is a good counter to F3, but I've been testing my wyvron W3 against my F3 and the parry gimmick seems to be negating the spin steal quite well.

Most of the time W3 will survive the final attack from F3 that would usually stall out other layers. I've tried it a couple ways, both fast and slow launch and hand launch, wyvron W3 usually wins by a few whole revolutions.

Just something to keep in mind when testing. I was testing F3 atomic versus W3 orbit, and W3 won consistently.

If this has been asked or mentioned, I’m sorry, but do Genesis Valtryek or Kinetic Satomb have any competitive combos at all? The only thing I have from the top Tier list is Kerbeus , the 2 disk, and the Vortex and Glaive frame.

If this has been asked or mentioned, I’m sorry, but do Genesis Valtryek or Kinetic Satomb have any competitive combos at all? The only thing I have from the top Tier list is Kerbeus , the 2 disk, and the Vortex and Glaive frame.

Sorry, but no

Hasbro's God Valkyrie has poor Attack power and Hasbro's Kries Satan has poor Burst resistance

V3 and S3 are outclassed. Kerbeus is only temporarily viable, so don't bank on it. 2 is viable but not the best option, you're better off with 0 or 7, then 4, and at last 5. Vortex is not really competitive and Glaive works best on left spin, while Cross has better LAD in both spin directions.
Tiny disclaimer: some differences may not be too big in regards to things like discs and frames, but are still present and worth noting.

Since I’ve been curious, is J3 competitive? I haven’t seen any jinnus testing anywhere.

Since I’ve been curious, is J3 competitive? I haven’t seen any jinnus testing anywhere.

I think Jinnius J3 is alright. It can do pretty good against Fafnir F3 if I'm not mistaken.

Here's my J3 testing thread: https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Hasbro-...Discussion

Also, if you want to see more J3 tests, check the testing archives in my signature that are organized by Layer. You'll be able to see all of the J3 tests I've done so far.

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Thanks! I was wondering if It was smart to get a J3 because I got one

So, I was messing around and found that J3 4F Nothing can do pretty good against G3 7C At. It almost obliterated my G3 stamina in a few hits. Can we try some testing with other top tier combos against J3 4F Nothing? Would be appreciated!

So, I was messing around and found that J3 4F Nothing can do pretty good against G3 7C At. It almost obliterated my G3 stamina in a few hits. Can we try some testing with other top tier combos against J3 4F Nothing? Would be appreciated!

Well, first off, I can do that test there as well, to provide more results. I guess it would be G3 7CAt (Odd) vs J3 4FNt (Even), right?

Also, how do these other tests look to you?

F3 7CAt (Odd) vs J3 4FNt (Even)
J3 4FNt (First) vs X3 7MX (Second Sliding Shoot)

Let me know if you like these tests as well as if you have any others you want to add. Thanks.

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Those look good, but could you add F3 P At and S3 7M Extreme? Also would like if the attacking combos were sliding shot (combos other than S3 and X3 7M Extreme I want launched first btw)

Those look good, but could you add F3 P At and S3 7M Extreme? Also would like if the attacking combos were sliding shot (combos other than S3 and X3 7M Extreme I want launched first btw)

Ok, just checking, these are all the tests you want, right?

G3 7CAt (Odd) vs J3 4FNt (Even)
F3 7CAt (Odd) vs J3 4FNt (Even)
J3 4FNt (First) vs X3 7MX (Second Sliding Shoot)
J3 4FNt (First) vs (Right Spin) LS3 7MX (Second Sliding Shoot)
J3 4FNt (First) vs (Left Spin) LS3 7MX (Second Sliding Shoot)
F3 PAt (Odd) vs J3 4FNt (Even)

Thanks.

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That looks good