(May. 13, 2020 6:51 AM)Me-has-Bro Wrote: There has been a lot of discussion about the "3 Ts" of Hasbro, Turbo Achilles, Spryzen and Valtryek. Some people say they are the best Hasbro has to offer. So lets compare their attack power. Is Valtryek better than his balance brothers?
Draw rounds were repeated (there were just a few). SrS3 always first. TT stadium. Strong launches.
tV3
tV3.00M.X vs. SrS3.0C.At
tV3: 2 KO, 2 OS (40% winrate)
SrS3: 2 BF, 4 OS (60% winrate)
tV3.00M.Hn vs. SrS3.0C.At
tV3: 4 KO, 2 BF (60% winrate)
SrS3: 4 OS (40% winrate)
tA4
tA4.00M.X vs. SrS3.0C.At
tA4: 3 KO, 1BF 1 OS (50% winrate)
SrS3: 5 OS (50% winrate)
tA4.00M.Hn vs. SrS3.0C.At
tA4: 2 KO, 1 BF, 1 OS (40% winrate)
SrS3: 6 OS (60% winrate)
tS4
tS4.00M.X vs. SrS3.0C.At
tS4: 3 KO, 1 BF, 2 OS (60% winrate)
SrS3: 4 OS (40% winrate)
tS4.00M.Hn vs. SrS3.0C.At
tS4: 4 KO, 1 BF (50% winrate)
SrS3: 5 OS (50% winrate)
Overall: tV3: 10/20, tA4: 9/20, tS4: 11/20
X: 15/30, Hn: 15/30
Conclusion: All 3 beys are really strong and could win about 50% of the battles versus the defending Spryzen Requiem which is still top tier.
As a side result, we see that Hunter and Xtreme are on par. I would consider those the best attack tips.
Now, lets give some outsiders a chance: Jolt-S and Volcanic-S.
Jl-S and Vl-S
tS4.00M.Jt-S vs. SrS3.0C.At
tS4: 1 BF (10% winrate)
SrS3: 1 KO, 8 OS (90% winrate)
tS4.00M.Vl-S vs. SrS3.0C.At
tS4: 1 KO (10% winrate)
SrS3: 9 OS (90% winrate)
Conclusion: Vl-S goes directly to the tornado ridge and has no flower pattern. Jl-S doesn't have enough friction due to its star shape.
And now, the tier 6/7 of 10 beys from Bladekids Tier list:
H3, N3, X3
H3.00M.Hn vs. SrS3.0C.At
H3: 1 KO (10% winrate)
SrS3: 3 BF, 6 OS (90% winrate)
N3.00M.Hn vs. SrS3.0C.At
N3: 0 Wins (0% winrate)
SrS3: 2 BF, 8 OS (100% winrate)
X3.00M.Hn vs. SrS3.0C.At
X3: 2 KO (20% winrate)
SrS3: 8 OS (80% winrate)
Conclusion: Those 3 attacker which are over average dont have a chance against the tier 9 SrS3.
Thanks for the tests. I would say tV3 is the best attack wise tbh. TS4 is the best in general by a good bit, and tA4 is a bit eh. Not bad just not anything super special. Definitely good in its own right. And personally, I don't consider N3 an attack type. It's more of a balance. I would probably put it a bit higher in hindsight just because it's a really good balance type but yeah. And same with H3, but that is considered more of an attack type so that honestly makes sense.
(May. 13, 2020 3:35 PM)Towndrunk Wrote: (May. 13, 2020 6:51 AM)Me-has-Bro Wrote: There has been a lot of discussion about the "3 Ts" of Hasbro, Turbo Achilles, Spryzen and Valtryek. Some people say they are the best Hasbro has to offer. So lets compare their attack power. Is Valtryek better than his balance brothers?
Draw rounds were repeated (there were just a few). SrS3 always first. TT stadium. Strong launches.
tV3
tV3.00M.X vs. SrS3.0C.At
tV3: 2 KO, 2 OS (40% winrate)
SrS3: 2 BF, 4 OS (60% winrate)
tV3.00M.Hn vs. SrS3.0C.At
tV3: 4 KO, 2 BF (60% winrate)
SrS3: 4 OS (40% winrate)
tA4
tA4.00M.X vs. SrS3.0C.At
tA4: 3 KO, 1BF 1 OS (50% winrate)
SrS3: 5 OS (50% winrate)
tA4.00M.Hn vs. SrS3.0C.At
tA4: 2 KO, 1 BF, 1 OS (40% winrate)
SrS3: 6 OS (60% winrate)
tS4
tS4.00M.X vs. SrS3.0C.At
tS4: 3 KO, 1 BF, 2 OS (60% winrate)
SrS3: 4 OS (40% winrate)
tS4.00M.Hn vs. SrS3.0C.At
tS4: 4 KO, 1 BF (50% winrate)
SrS3: 5 OS (50% winrate)
Overall: tV3: 10/20, tA4: 9/20, tS4: 11/20
X: 15/30, Hn: 15/30
Conclusion: All 3 beys are really strong and could win about 50% of the battles versus the defending Spryzen Requiem which is still top tier.
As a side result, we see that Hunter and Xtreme are on par. I would consider those the best attack tips.
Now, lets give some outsiders a chance: Jolt-S and Volcanic-S.
Jl-S and Vl-S
tS4.00M.Jt-S vs. SrS3.0C.At
tS4: 1 BF (10% winrate)
SrS3: 1 KO, 8 OS (90% winrate)
tS4.00M.Vl-S vs. SrS3.0C.At
tS4: 1 KO (10% winrate)
SrS3: 9 OS (90% winrate)
Conclusion: Vl-S goes directly to the tornado ridge and has no flower pattern. Jl-S doesn't have enough friction due to its star shape.
And now, the tier 6/7 of 10 beys from Bladekids Tier list:
H3, N3, X3
H3.00M.Hn vs. SrS3.0C.At
H3: 1 KO (10% winrate)
SrS3: 3 BF, 6 OS (90% winrate)
N3.00M.Hn vs. SrS3.0C.At
N3: 0 Wins (0% winrate)
SrS3: 2 BF, 8 OS (100% winrate)
X3.00M.Hn vs. SrS3.0C.At
X3: 2 KO (20% winrate)
SrS3: 8 OS (80% winrate)
Conclusion: Those 3 attacker which are over average dont have a chance against the tier 9 SrS3.
Good tests. We got our first shipment of TT beys yesterday after accumulating almost all 4 and 5 series hasbro beys over the previous 2 weeks. I was expecting this hands down dominant performance of TT over hasbro and it wasn't really there.
No official recorded data in proper format but hasbro TS.00W.RS-H destroyed big bang genesis and dread bahamut(also had fafnir and the third bey from gt booster pack but didn't seem worth testing). It was about 50% against imperial dragon with the ignition and against lord spriggan with combinations of 0, 00, W, E, Bl, orbit, yard, octa, rise. Still waiting on second shipment with cho z booster for atomic, ds, bearing.
So yea... I don't know what to make of that but turbo spryzen with decent set up is definitely competitive.
I guess my question is, in deck format for tournament rules can you include a hasbro bey mixed with TT beys? Or is it Hasbro's get left home for family fun lol.
Yeah you can use both Hasbro and TT beys in a deck as long as you follow the "no mixing Hasbro and TT parts" and "no repeat parts" rule. Also, as someone who is known for succeeding with Hasbro bey, I can say they are competitively viable in tournaments, it's just harder and you have to play your cards very right.