Yeah, Kbuno you can't just assume that Ray is carp with only 1 test. You never know, Ray with a RF could perform better than Ray with a HF. Ray may need to have more grip on the slippery stadium floor.
Hasbro Metagame Stadium & Combo Testing 2! Updates!!
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hmm, I was still not able to get the testing done, but I have a proposal. how about we test hasbro beys agains TT beys, so that way, if someone needs to beat their friends TT bey they can see witch hasbro beys work best against witch TT beys in witch stadiums. lots of people would probably find it helpful, as lots of bladers purchase TT beyblades on ebay and other sites to beat their friends with.
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This is the Hasbro Meta. We are trying to find which Hasbro beys go well against other Hasbro beys.
Starting Graffiti Den Defense vs. Attack tests!
So, yeah.
LLD vs. Tier 3 Def.
So, yeah.
LLD vs. Tier 3 Def.
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Why Tier 3...?
Also, RS is ridiculously easy to OS, and HF will obviously outspin it especially when it is on an equalizer MW+CW (albeit it doesn't equalize as 'good' as MLD), so no shock there.
Also, RS is ridiculously easy to OS, and HF will obviously outspin it especially when it is on an equalizer MW+CW (albeit it doesn't equalize as 'good' as MLD), so no shock there.
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@CRUelty/Coaters R US
Well, we all know that Graffiti Den sucks, so why not start from the lowest?
Well, we all know that Graffiti Den sucks, so why not start from the lowest?
Because you cannot see a type's potential in a specific stadium if you use not even mediocre combinations...
Try stamina vs stamina/stamina vs defense if you have the time. While it's obvious attack probably won't be half-decent in this stadium, there are other types that you could test, too.
Testing with rubbish combinations will show little to nothing at all.
Try stamina vs stamina/stamina vs defense if you have the time. While it's obvious attack probably won't be half-decent in this stadium, there are other types that you could test, too.
Testing with rubbish combinations will show little to nothing at all.
CRU
Twisted Bull GB145CS vs. Burn Virgo AD145WD
Hasbro Launchers, alternated launches, CS calm, WD mildly worn, GRAFFITI DEN
Twisted Bull GB145CS: 19/20 wins (all OS)
Burn Virgo AD145WD: 1/20 wins (os)
Twisted win percentage: 95%
Twisted is starting its reign in hasbro. Anyways, Twisted just kept on pushing burn to the TR or the wall, causing it to lose stamina.
Twisted Bull GB145CS vs. Burn Virgo AD145WD
Hasbro Launchers, alternated launches, CS calm, WD mildly worn, GRAFFITI DEN
Twisted Bull GB145CS: 19/20 wins (all OS)
Burn Virgo AD145WD: 1/20 wins (os)
Twisted win percentage: 95%
Twisted is starting its reign in hasbro. Anyways, Twisted just kept on pushing burn to the TR or the wall, causing it to lose stamina.
>Starting its reign
It always has, people just never tested it to prove it.
It always has, people just never tested it to prove it.
ill have bukunshin susano by sunday so I can start testing on that along with WF testing. if u have any requests with those ill be glade to try them out for people
I have just bought the Pegasus Battle Set, now I'll be doing tests on RF and R2F for DD... I now have a Beylauncher!
Burn vs. Earth STM. testing.
Gonna take a looooong time.
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Gonna take a looooong time.
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@kbuno: What exactly is all of thos accomplishing? Testing a tier 3 bey?
So long as no one is agianst it, the tier list under contruction will be based around the LF, MXSNC, and DD stadiums.
Can we please remove stadiums like Grafite Den from our list? It is basicly encouraging new comers to purchase something that is absolute useless carp.
So long as no one is agianst it, the tier list under contruction will be based around the LF, MXSNC, and DD stadiums.
Can we please remove stadiums like Grafite Den from our list? It is basicly encouraging new comers to purchase something that is absolute useless carp.
If you ment to say "to prove", then you really didnt prove much of anything. A calm CS vs a WD proves nothing. Put an attack type in there. I dare you to
I would honestly like to see Flame Cancer 100/90FS perform against stamina and defense.
Flame Cancer does not work that bad in Hasbro stadiums, I want to see if this trend continues in the newer stadiums.
But this is just merely a request that is not a necessity, as the stadium is still in its beginning stages of testing.
Flame Cancer does not work that bad in Hasbro stadiums, I want to see if this trend continues in the newer stadiums.
But this is just merely a request that is not a necessity, as the stadium is still in its beginning stages of testing.
stamina done
Earth Pegasus I 105WD vs. Burn Pegasus I 105WD (it's the only same CW i had xD)
Graffiti Den, hasbro launchers, CW switched after 10 rounds, launches alternated, WDs slightly worn
Earth Pegasus 105WD: 13/20 wins (os)
Burn Pegasus 105WD: 7/20 wins (os)
Earth : 65%
leon
that was testing twisted
so what do you want me to fail my atk against?
CRU
fixed
Earth Pegasus I 105WD vs. Burn Pegasus I 105WD (it's the only same CW i had xD)
Graffiti Den, hasbro launchers, CW switched after 10 rounds, launches alternated, WDs slightly worn
Earth Pegasus 105WD: 13/20 wins (os)
Burn Pegasus 105WD: 7/20 wins (os)
Earth : 65%
leon
that was testing twisted
so what do you want me to fail my atk against?
CRU
fixed
Which Pegasis clear wheel?
I kinda expected these results, tbh. Did you switch the WDs, too?
I kinda wanna see super high in recoil blades battle out in this stadium, ahaha.
I kinda expected these results, tbh. Did you switch the WDs, too?
I kinda wanna see super high in recoil blades battle out in this stadium, ahaha.
@Kbuno: That is my point. Attack is useless in those stadiums, wheras in attack type in a PTW can maybe get atleast one win. The purpose of the original legal stadiums was to create a balanced metagame. Considering how none of you wanted that, now all stadiums are legal. That said, I am ok with it, but these skaterbro stadiums need to go. Testting 2 balance types in those will have the same results as in a normal hasbro stadium, the difference being that atttack cannot be tested in these skater stadiums
I swear I didn't forge these tests, they're completely true.
Lightning L-Drago 100HF vs. Earth Bull GB145CS
Hasbro Launchers, both tips mildly worn, LLD launched last
Lightning L-Drago 100HF : 14/15 OS
Earth Bull GB145CS : 1/15 KO
Ties: 2
Earth Bull's KO was from me launching LLD into him and LLD flying out.
Want to know what's REALLY nerfed in hasbro? DEFENSE (other than twisted)
Lightning L-Drago 100HF vs. Earth Bull GB145CS
Hasbro Launchers, both tips mildly worn, LLD launched last
Lightning L-Drago 100HF : 14/15 OS
Earth Bull GB145CS : 1/15 KO
Ties: 2
Earth Bull's KO was from me launching LLD into him and LLD flying out.
Want to know what's REALLY nerfed in hasbro? DEFENSE (other than twisted)
I figure TT-appropriate defense is nerfed because being knocked out isn't a big deal in Hasbro stadiums. The balance of defense and stamina that is most appropriate for the stadiums is different, basically, less defense, more stamina for the equivalent of "defense".
Just a guess.
And not totally surprised, the LLD combo looks decently equipped to destabilise, spinsteal, and OS CS tips.
Just a guess.
And not totally surprised, the LLD combo looks decently equipped to destabilise, spinsteal, and OS CS tips.
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I hant thought of that. Defesne and Attack thrive off eachother. When one is nerfed, the other is as well. Stamina, being the tip of the triange, always acts as a median. In these staiums, the more stamina, the better
Still, seeing as you guys don't follow the hasbro rules (which are so utterly nonsensical that I doubt anyone would), you can still work on finding attackers that are easily able to pocket stamina types*. Then, much like the way the Takara Metagame has it's RS, RSF, RDF and CS, there should be a range of choices for tips for defenders, based on balancing stamina and defense. If, say, HF is a common attack tip in most hasbro stadiums, then defenders need to be able to outspin it to be viable.
If attack is as weak as people have made it out to be, then you may end up having an entire metagame using D/SD/WD, at least until someone has a brainwave and finds something that can disable these sorts of combinations effectively (which, were I involved in this metagame, I would be spending every minute of my day doing).
In fact, if you were following hasbro rules, that's almost certainly what would happen, but anyway:
Figure out what the most common attacker that actually works is, if there is one, then your defender needs to have slightly more stamina than that, and be able to withstand its hits.
I honestly wouldn't bother looking at anything with rubber right now, for anything.
If there isn't an attacker that can take down Basalt/Hell stamina combinations, then your entire metagame is going to be Stamina-based, unless there are specific combinations that can defeat them...
But that's just in the non-gimmicked stadiums. In gimmicked stadiums, you need to either use combinations that work well WITH the gimmicks, or work well DESPITE the gimmicks. I would actually approach that with much more excitement than the standard metagame, if the standard metagame is stamina-oriented, at least it gives you something more than stamina.
It's a shame to see basalt crush one of the more unique combinations which flourished under the unusual conditions presented by these stadiums (the MF Ray CH120WD thing), but perhaps you will eventually stumble upon something else like that. With more testing being done, you never know.
*or hit them repeatedly/hard enough to kill their stamina (though, this is really not something you see in MFB (far more common in plastics), you never know, in the odd conditions these stadiums provide, something could work like that...).
But yeah, that's just my spare truckload of two-cent pieces. Carry on
If attack is as weak as people have made it out to be, then you may end up having an entire metagame using D/SD/WD, at least until someone has a brainwave and finds something that can disable these sorts of combinations effectively (which, were I involved in this metagame, I would be spending every minute of my day doing).
In fact, if you were following hasbro rules, that's almost certainly what would happen, but anyway:
Figure out what the most common attacker that actually works is, if there is one, then your defender needs to have slightly more stamina than that, and be able to withstand its hits.
I honestly wouldn't bother looking at anything with rubber right now, for anything.
If there isn't an attacker that can take down Basalt/Hell stamina combinations, then your entire metagame is going to be Stamina-based, unless there are specific combinations that can defeat them...
But that's just in the non-gimmicked stadiums. In gimmicked stadiums, you need to either use combinations that work well WITH the gimmicks, or work well DESPITE the gimmicks. I would actually approach that with much more excitement than the standard metagame, if the standard metagame is stamina-oriented, at least it gives you something more than stamina.
It's a shame to see basalt crush one of the more unique combinations which flourished under the unusual conditions presented by these stadiums (the MF Ray CH120WD thing), but perhaps you will eventually stumble upon something else like that. With more testing being done, you never know.
*or hit them repeatedly/hard enough to kill their stamina (though, this is really not something you see in MFB (far more common in plastics), you never know, in the odd conditions these stadiums provide, something could work like that...).
But yeah, that's just my spare truckload of two-cent pieces. Carry on
Just was foolin around with Twisted Kerbecs 230EWD. Got amazingly good stamina and was able to resist Hades Kerbecs BD145WD at stamina, also Burn Bull AD145WD and Attackers. It is definitly one to try out.
You guys need any Half-Pipe BeyStadium testing?
If so, what against what?
I was using some combos earlier (more specifically, MF-H Beat Lynx GB145RF and MF-H Duo Aquario BD145CS) and Beat was trashing Duo. Basically, it would hit until BD145 scraped, killing BD145's stamina, while killing it's own stamina, so due to it being RF, it lost, but by small margins.
While not exactly the best way to test for the HASBRO meta, but yeah.
EDIT: Just tried LLD in it...
Didn't work.
At all.
It didn't have enough momentum to get past the ridge in it, and it didn't bounce off the walls like RF did.
There goes this stadium for attack ;_;
If so, what against what?
I was using some combos earlier (more specifically, MF-H Beat Lynx GB145RF and MF-H Duo Aquario BD145CS) and Beat was trashing Duo. Basically, it would hit until BD145 scraped, killing BD145's stamina, while killing it's own stamina, so due to it being RF, it lost, but by small margins.
While not exactly the best way to test for the HASBRO meta, but yeah.
EDIT: Just tried LLD in it...
Didn't work.
At all.
It didn't have enough momentum to get past the ridge in it, and it didn't bounce off the walls like RF did.
There goes this stadium for attack ;_;