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Hasbro Metagame Stadium & Combo Testing 2! Updates!!

Feb. 08, 2012  12:22 AM
 
any tests needed or ideas for me?
I currently have
LLD
MLD
Flame Byxis
Thermal Pisces
Legend Midnight Bull
Thunder lebra
Ray Striker
Galaxy Pegasus
Burn fireblaze
Poison scorpio
Cyber Pegasis
Dark Libra
Counter leone
Hyper aquario
Poison Zurafa
Cyclone herculeo
Twisted tempo
Gravity destroyer Perseus
Earth eagle
Ultimate MLD
Earth virgo
Storm pegasus
Evil Befall.
Vulcan heruseus
I also have mutliples of each
Feb. 08, 2012  12:26 AM
 
Right now, test attack types (what tips and tracks are good for them, what opponents they're good and bad against)
Feb. 08, 2012  2:59 AM
 
Any test requests? I can only do them in the PTW, LF, SVS, BB, and TBS (any cores).
Feb. 08, 2012  3:03 AM
 
Do as many tests as you can, but mainly with attack types (what tracks they're good on, what tips, what opponents do they do good and bad againts)
Feb. 08, 2012  3:19 AM
 
DD stadium alternated between sliding shoot and banking
attack shot always last
LL/L and LL/R

EARTH BULL GB145SF vs MF LLD T125XF (UPPER MODE)

EARTH BULL GB145SF wins 12/20 ( 11OS/1KO)

MF LLD T125XF (uppser mode) wins 8/20 ( 2OS/6KO)

MF LLD T125XF (UPPER MODE) WIN 40%


the 2 OS wins by LLD were from LLD getting some good smash dmg in on EB , towards the end began to tornado stall. luckily LLD did enough dmg to win.

2 ties that both had to be redone, and both tips are in fairly new condition.

this is my first time posting any testing results so if I did anything wierd or left anything out of my details please let me know thanks! I am looking foward to doing more tests
Feb. 08, 2012  4:12 AM
 
Ok, but you might want to test your combos against:

Earth Bull GB145CS
Earth Bull AD145WD
Twisted Tempo
Gravity Destroyer (left spin) D125HF vs. Earth Bull AD145WD
WD fairly new, HF fairly new, GD sliding shoot, GD launched last, Hasbro Light Launchers
Gravity Destroyer D125HF: 0 wins (d125 for hasbro probably just sucks)
Earth Bull AD145WD: 5 wins (all os) (stopped at 5, GD couldn't get the power)

D125 win rate: 0%

I guess HF or D125 couldn't give it the speed to kill a simple stamina type.
Low track ATK combos here we go:

Blah, just started testing 100 and it's already failing. It only seems to do good in barrage attacking.

R2F here we go:

Too uncontrollabe.

GD sucks. Let's test ray later.
Feb. 08, 2012  4:51 AM
 
@Kbuno Could you redo your test but GD in right spin? GD has a higher chance of scoring big smashes in right spin.

blackheart Are you going to test LLD with WF? Also what launcher + accessories did you use? Next time include your equipment along with your testing.
Feb. 08, 2012  4:55 AM
 
Lynxx I thought I did say what equipment I used. ill be getting WF soon so once I get it yes I will
Feb. 08, 2012  5:01 AM
 
Oh oops my bad, I must've skimmed through it. I'm sorry. Good tests though. Looking forward to your WF tests.
Feb. 08, 2012  5:23 AM
 
hi everybody im fairly new, ive been observering and learning, when i dont know something, i look it up on beyblade wiki and beywiki to get different oppinions, and i could do some gravity destroyer d125r2f in both left spin and right spin against twisted bull 230cs and earth bull 105rs in a lions lair stadium and a triple battle core stadium if that would help Smile
Feb. 08, 2012  5:48 AM
 
(Feb. 08, 2012  5:23 AM)Dragondestroyer Wrote: hi everybody im fairly new, ive been observering and learning, when i dont know something, i look it up on beyblade wiki and beywiki to get different oppinions, and i could do some gravity destroyer d125r2f in both left spin and right spin against twisted bull 230cs and earth bull 105rs in a lions lair stadium and a triple battle core stadium if that would help Smile

105 is generally outclassed, 105 isn't even a defense track in the first place. Earth Bull GB145RS is what you want right??
Feb. 08, 2012  6:28 AM
 
(Feb. 08, 2012  5:23 AM)Dragondestroyer Wrote: hi everybody im fairly new, ive been observering and learning, when i dont know something, i look it up on beyblade wiki and beywiki to get different oppinions, and i could do some gravity destroyer d125r2f in both left spin and right spin against twisted bull 230cs and earth bull 105rs in a lions lair stadium and a triple battle core stadium if that would help Smile

if your gonna try a rubber tip try RF just because its been said that it works better then R2F in hasbro stadiums, but more testers woohoo!

Lynxx its cool man it happens especially if u stare at these threads too long HAHA!
Feb. 08, 2012  6:51 AM
 
But note that R2F could. COULD. Be decent in some stadiums... But, if Dragoondestroyer could test it out, it would be great!
Feb. 08, 2012  12:44 PM
 
@kbuno: only 5 battles and you jump to such quick conclusions? 20 is the minimum requirment, but here you can getaway with 15 or even 10 sometimes, but 5? No

blackheart: Thanks for your DD tests! Much appreciated! (Did you get my pm yet?)
Feb. 08, 2012  5:13 PM
 
(Feb. 08, 2012  5:48 AM)Lynxx Wrote:
(Feb. 08, 2012  5:23 AM)Dragondestroyer Wrote: hi everybody im fairly new, ive been observering and learning, when i dont know something, i look it up on beyblade wiki and beywiki to get different oppinions, and i could do some gravity destroyer d125r2f in both left spin and right spin against twisted bull 230cs and earth bull 105rs in a lions lair stadium and a triple battle core stadium if that would help Smile

105 is generally outclassed, 105 isn't even a defense track in the first place. Earth Bull GB145RS is what you want right??

sorry but i dont have anything lower than 105 Unhappy and i'll do testing against both earth combos, because it would be interesting to see witch one performs better. I have avoided GB145 because i have experienced floor scrapes with it, although the added weight is definately a plus. I will have the testing done soon though Smile
Feb. 08, 2012  5:52 PM
 
The best you can do with 105 are lw height stamina combos, but so much outclasses that now

I had an idea just now. While we have allowed all stadiums for testing, can the tier list be based soley on the previously used stadiums? and considering what we have seen of DD, I would incoperate that as well, in addition to all the non gimmick standard stadiums, except for PTW and LL.
Feb. 08, 2012  6:37 PM
 
TESTING RESULTS (Click to View)

I'll do the left spin testing for the 105 earth combo and the gb145 earth combo later, this was all I could get done atm.
Feb. 08, 2012  8:51 PM
 
(Feb. 08, 2012  12:44 PM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: @kbuno: only 5 battles and you jump to such quick conclusions? 20 is the minimum requirment, but here you can getaway with 15 or even 10 sometimes, but 5? No

blackheart: Thanks for your DD tests! Much appreciated! (Did you get my pm yet?)

no prob but I did not get your PM, dont worry about Rai answered it for me. I am trying to do some testing today but I start them out and the combos just flat out suck! I give it up to everyone that does testing because this really isnt easy as it would seem, and very time consuming ha!. will do my best to contribute but ideas would help =)
Feb. 08, 2012  11:43 PM
 
gravity rightspin is better than left spin. hasbro is really different from takara tomy

Gravity Destroyer 100HF vs. Earth Bull AD145WD
Burning Firestrike, WD lightly worn, HF lightly worn, Gravity was launched with sliding shoot, hasbro light lanchers

Gravity Destroyer 100HF: 6 wins (all KOs)
Earth Bull AD145WD: 9 wins (all OS)
1 tie redone

Gravity rightspin win percentage: 40%

D125 here we come!

Gravity Destroyer D125HF vs. Earth Bull AD145WD
Burning Firestrike, both tips mildly worn, gravity sliding shot, hasbro light launchers

Gravity Destroyer D125HF: 2 wins (all KOs)
Earth Bull AD145WD: 8 wns (all OS)

D125 win percentage: 20%


You know, I think earth is giving attack types a hard time because it's tier 2 in defense.
Feb. 09, 2012  3:21 AM
 
(Feb. 08, 2012  8:51 PM)BlackHeart1216 Wrote:
(Feb. 08, 2012  12:44 PM)LeonTempestXIII Wrote: @kbuno: only 5 battles and you jump to such quick conclusions? 20 is the minimum requirment, but here you can getaway with 15 or even 10 sometimes, but 5? No

blackheart: Thanks for your DD tests! Much appreciated! (Did you get my pm yet?)

no prob but I did not get your PM, dont worry about Rai answered it for me. I am trying to do some testing today but I start them out and the combos just flat out suck! I give it up to everyone that does testing because this really isnt easy as it would seem, and very time consuming ha!. will do my best to contribute but ideas would help =)

That is peculiar...atleast Rai was able to help

Hmm......

Thanks for your tests everyone. Lets keep up the good work
Feb. 09, 2012  11:22 PM
 
Ray stinks.

Ray Striker 100HF vs. Earth Bull AD145WD
Burning Firestrike, both tips mildly worn, earth bull launched first, hasbro lightlaunchers, ray striker sliding shoot
Ray Striker 100HF: 1 win (KO)
Earth Bull AD145: 9 wins (all os)
Ray win percentage: 10%

I guess because of ray's low attack potential and the inability to get KOs during the middle and end of the battle.
Feb. 09, 2012  11:41 PM
 
Some advice, dont jump to conclusins/make such hasty opinions without 1st having other people confirming your results, or providing some analysis

On a side note, you are using Burning Firestrike, which not only is a gimmick stadium with indents, but has the slope of a PTW, so all attack types will suck Tired
I will say that the increase number in tests is nice, but considering how attack types dont have a chance of succeding in these other stadiums, i dont even see the point is testing attack types for stadiums like that.

Even so, these tests are great and I am happy that we have gotten some new contributors. Thanks everyone, lets keep up the good work =D
Feb. 09, 2012  11:54 PM
 
Well, attack types aren't all bad. See my LLD testing, I say it takes 1st place in hasbro meta.
Feb. 10, 2012  12:21 AM
 
Thats not because its an attack type. Even you said it was because of spin stealing/equalization. the low stamina of attack types just contributes to the weak launch effect
Feb. 10, 2012  1:20 AM
 
I meant against earth bull. It did higher than Gravity and Ray.
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