Hasbro Metagame Stadium & Combo Testing 2! Updates!!

(Aug. 16, 2011  10:43 PM)HiverLaurant Wrote: I'll add new tests as soon as I get a CS.
Are you sure that SF>WB for defense?

Is nearly 30 tests from various members and near-universal agreement considered being sure? Is the 75%+ tests compared to 50%- tests being sure? I'd hope so, seeing as SF has been the marquee Defense Bottom for quite a while now.

On Earth Bull GB145CS, this will be top-tier, as long as you wear your CS a bit.
God I need to get back to this thread... Tell me, what can I test?
Not much left to do until Twisted hits. Tornado, maybe? 230, definitely, but the Tier lists are all but finalized, minus Twisted, 230, Gravity, and R145, unless we get a surprise or two.
(Aug. 17, 2011  6:14 AM)Raigeko13 Wrote: God I need to get back to this thread... Tell me, what can I test?

theres something i tested i while ago and i want to see you test it i was fiddeling around with parts and got flame bull 145 es i fought agansit burn bull 100wd and fb seemed to consatnly win so can you test that and mabye test flame bull 145 hf/s smode and or falme bull 145 ms
Idea time.
Twisted ___ R145WB
I shall test this -.- Why?
I can't answer that xD

njrk97 If my internet isn't out, and I'm not completely exhausted from football tomorrow night, those tests shall be up Grin
Burn is junk on 100 in a Hasbro Stadium nowadays. It was only top-tier until people decided to finalize testing on 125/CH120, if I recall correctly. And MS is jank. Rock Bull CH120F. Oldest Attacker we have, and THAT easily KOs the thing. (Hasbro rules, too. That's sad.) It gets OS'd by destablization by the likes of...Torch.
(Aug. 17, 2011  6:20 AM)Raigeko13 Wrote: Idea time.
Twisted ___ R145WB
I shall test this -.- Why?
I can't answer that xD

njrk97 If my internet isn't out, and I'm not completely exhausted from football tomorrow night, those tests shall be up Grin

Recoil? Slammin'! I'll get RIGHT on that once I get Twisted. The thing will be WAY too heavy to KO easily, and R145 and Basalt have more than enough recoil to produce some Smash, or simply use the recoil to score KOs, right?
Torch...
Such a bad wheel...
Yet...
It could be a destabilizer, along with the rest of the legend series. Hmm... I can do some testings with/without MF's, anything else?
Not much. Like I said, there's not much left for the Hasbro Tier lists besides the obvious, and MAYBE a surprise or two. Bakushin? Counter for attack if you have the game version?
(Aug. 17, 2011  6:21 AM)Temporal Wrote: Recoil? Slammin'! I'll get RIGHT on that once I get Twisted. The thing will be WAY too heavy to KO easily, and R145 and Basalt have more than enough recoil to produce some Smash, or simply use the recoil to score KOs, right?

Yeah, tbh I don't know what I'm thinking on that, but I'd really like to see testing on it Grin

(Aug. 17, 2011  6:24 AM)Temporal Wrote: Not much. Like I said, there's not much left for the Hasbro Tier lists besides the obvious, and MAYBE a surprise or two. Bakushin? Counter for attack if you have the game version?
I have Bakushin yes, and Deikailo proved (as you know) that it was somewhat harder to KO on BD145CS, so once I have a BD145, testing shall be done, muahahhah! And I don't have the game version of Counter, but I have the legend series version, they're both the same, no? th!nk used to like using Counter ___ H145RF, it's alright. I'd love to see that on R145 too Grin
Legend Counter is much lighter, methinks. Game Counter is about 31-34 grams, while Legend is about the weight of Storm.
Really eh? I've never had/seen the game one, but I might get my hands on one and weigh it along with a bunch of other counters, and see if they have mold differences Grin But yeah, I'll try to get those tests up tomorrow. I'm off to bed now, tired.
My results are up!
beylauncher L/R
mxs nc
all hasbro parts, other than beylauncher L/R
normal launch for both
LLD CH120 FS: 3 KO, 16 OS.
MF EB GB145 CS: 0 OS, 1 KO.

one draw, redone.

SF results coming soon!



comments: LLD was doing some spin-equalizing, and it seemed like FS beat CS only because it is ENTIRELY plastic. also, I noticed that when EB got knocked off balence, CS preformed a bit like D on it's side, losing a good amount of stamina.
Well, you DID use a stamina type against a Defense type. What did you expect?
(Aug. 17, 2011  3:48 PM)Temporal Wrote: Well, you DID use a stamina type against a Defense type. What did you expect?
It can KO with ease, it's definitely not stamina. Lightning L-Drago is always for KOing with the spin sharing ability.

Get it on the F side of the tip and KOing won't be a surprise.
(Aug. 17, 2011  3:54 PM)ControL_ Wrote: Get it on the F side of the tip and KOing won't be a surprise.

i use FS allot, and no matter how hard i try, it wont move fast in a hasbro stadium when on F

(Aug. 17, 2011  3:54 PM)ControL_ Wrote:
(Aug. 17, 2011  3:48 PM)Temporal Wrote: Well, you DID use a stamina type against a Defense type. What did you expect?
It can KO with ease, it's definitely not stamina. Lightning L-Drago is always for KOing with the spin sharing ability.

Get it on the F side of the tip and KOing won't be a surprise.
Not much KO'ing going on in the tests so that is pretty irrelevant. Though OT should test it.
'Stamina', Temporal? It would be an equalizer in this case since it isn't KO'ing often.

FS was considered for Stamina in the older tests. It did oddly well with Killer (If you'd believe it), but isn't this another case of a high-recoil stamina combo, like Ray Virgo CH120WD? They tend to test VERY well, though it varies between rules. I can see why some wouldn't call it stamina with FS, but that last letter, S, makes me think of it as Stamina.
I don't really know if I'd classify it as stamina or attack, but since it can KO easily enough while still OSing, maybe balance? It definitely isn't defense. EarthBull GB145WB and CS seem to have problems with it and it can beat stamina types also. If we tested it against attack, we probably wouldn't get anything too interesting...
I say it's balance?

Off topic: I just bought the rev-up launcher and its so strong =7=
Easy KO? Three KOs don't classify as 'Easily' to me, but if you say so. I still say it is high-recoil Stamina.
Hi, would anybody be bothered do do a quick test for me. I would like you to use Thermal Aries 125HF against any other bey really Thanks, sorry to be a pain
can someone please test MF gravity perseus D125 F? I think it'll have better results than RF, stamina-wise.
(Aug. 18, 2011  6:40 PM)MetalKnight Wrote: Hi, would anybody be bothered do do a quick test for me. I would like you to use Thermal Aries 125HF against any other bey really Thanks, sorry to be a pain

As said in the OP this is not a test requesting thread and I don't that combo would do very well since Thermal doesn't have really any attack power.
(Aug. 18, 2011  6:53 PM)geminikid13 Wrote: can someone please test MF gravity perseus D125 F? I think it'll have better results than RF, stamina-wise.
Read the OP.
Lightning L-Drago T125RF Testing

Setup:
Lightning L-Drago Stadium
Beylauncher LR
Beylauncher L (L-Drago URS Edition)
3 Segment Launcher Grip
All Hasbro Parts

LLD T125RF vs. EARTH VIRGO 125WD
LLD T125RF :11 (10 KO,1 OS)
EV 125WD :9 (4 KO, 5 OS)
1 DRAW which was redone.

LLD T125RF vs. EARTH BULL CH120WD
LLD T125RF :6 (6 KO, 0 OS)
EB CH120WD(120) :14 (3 KO, 11 OS)
2 DRAWS which were both redone.

LLD T125RF :12 (9 KO ,3 OS)
EB CH120WD (145) :8 (1 KO, 8 OS)
1 DRAW which was redone.

Overall: I love this combo, it has problems with lower tracks though. That is why Earth Bull (when in 120 height) had such a good win record.
hmm... I'll do some testing on this in the morning... *yawn* I may be able to improve it a tad...