[Hasbro]  Forneus F4 Testing and Discussion

Hey everyone! I saw there wasn’t a testing thread for Forneus F4 yet and thought I’d make one myself. Later today I’ll be doing some testing now that my life isn’t as consumed by Pokémon and Smash Bros anymore.

(Right)Spryzen Requiem S3 0Cross Bearing(Odd) VS Forneus F4 0Bump Atomic(Even):
SrS3.0,C.Br: 2 KO, 9 OS (55% Win Rate)
F4.0,B.At: 1 KO, 8 OS (45% Win Rate)

Every battle was very close (half rotation)
(Dec. 13, 2018  5:43 PM)Universe04 Wrote: Hey everyone! I saw there wasn’t a testing thread for Forneus F4 yet and thought I’d make one myself. Later today I’ll be doing some testing now that my life isn’t as consumed by Pokémon and Smash Bros anymore.

(Right)Spryzen Requiem S3 0Cross Bearing(Odd) VS Forneus F4 0Bump Atomic(Even):
®SrS3.0,C.Br: 2 KO, 9 OS (55% Win Rate)
F4.0,B.At: 1 KO, 8 OS (45% Win Rate)

Every battle was very close (half rotation)

ftfy

wait nvm, anyway, that's pretty interesting considering how much lighter Turbo is to Switchstrike
(Right)Spryzen Requiem S3 0Cross Bearing(Odd) VS Forneus F4 0Bump Orbit(Even):
SrS3.0,C.Br: 1 KO, 9 OS (50% Win Rate)
F4.0,B.O: 10 OS (50% Win Rate)
Woah.

(Right)Spryzen Requiem S3 0Cross Bearing(Odd) VS Forneus F4 0Bump [BR]Yard-S(Even):
SrS3.0,C.Br: 5 Burst, 6 OS (55% Win Rate)
F4.0,B.Yr-S: 9 OS (45% Win Rate)
These battles definitely show how terrible the spring on Yard-S is :/
I recently got a Forneus F4, which means I can do testing now too
(Dec. 16, 2018  6:48 AM)Universe04 Wrote: (Right)Spryzen Requiem S3 0Cross Bearing(Odd) VS Forneus F4 0Bump Orbit(Even):
SrS3.0,C.Br: 1 KO, 9 OS (50% Win Rate)
F4.0,B.O: 10 OS (50% Win Rate)
Woah.

(Right)Spryzen Requiem S3 0Cross Bearing(Odd) VS Forneus F4 0Bump [BR]Yard-S(Even):
SrS3.0,C.Br: 5 Burst, 6 OS (55% Win Rate)
F4.0,B.Yr-S: 9 OS (45% Win Rate)
These battles definitely show how terrible the spring on Yard-S is Uncertain

Either I got lucky or you got unlucky, because my Yard-S has a great spring.
(Dec. 28, 2018  3:03 AM)Flame~Capricorn Wrote:
(Dec. 16, 2018  6:48 AM)Universe04 Wrote: (Right)Spryzen Requiem S3 0Cross Bearing(Odd) VS Forneus F4 0Bump Orbit(Even):
SrS3.0,C.Br: 1 KO, 9 OS (50% Win Rate)
F4.0,B.O: 10 OS (50% Win Rate)
Woah.

(Right)Spryzen Requiem S3 0Cross Bearing(Odd) VS Forneus F4 0Bump [BR]Yard-S(Even):
SrS3.0,C.Br: 5 Burst, 6 OS (55% Win Rate)
F4.0,B.Yr-S: 9 OS (45% Win Rate)
These battles definitely show how terrible the spring on Yard-S is Uncertain

Either I got lucky or you got unlucky, because my Yard-S has a great spring.
Really? From everyone I’ve talked to they said the spring was really bad. You must’ve gotten lucky!
Finally got the first part of the Forneus F4 Testing done. I also shortened my testing video to show you a couple battles from each test as well.

Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Caynox C3 7 Revolve (Even): Wombat - Timestamp
- F4.7.Br: 2 Burst, 1 OS (15% Win Rate)
- C3.7.R: 17 OS (85% Win Rate)

Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Caynox C3 7 Bearing (Even): Wombat (Switch Brs After 10 Battles) - Timestamp
- F4.7.Br: 1 Burst (5% Win Rate)
- C3.7.Br: 19 OS (95% Win Rate)

Battles 1-10: F4 had Br (3), C3 had Br (4)
Battles 11-20: F4 had Br (4), C3 had Br (3)

Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. (Right Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 7 Bearing (Even): Wombat (Switch Brs After 10 Battles) - Timestamp
- F4.7.Br: 1 OS (5% Win Rate)
- SRS3.7.Br: 18 OS, 1 Burst (95% Win Rate)

Battles 1-10: F4 had Br (3), SRS3 had Br (4)
Battles 11-20: F4 had Br (4), SRS3 had Br (3)

Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. (Right Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 0 Bearing (Even): Wombat (Switch Brs After 10 Battles) - Timestamp
- F4.7.Br: 3 OS (15% Win Rate)
- SRS3.0.Br: 15 OS, 2 Burst (85% Win Rate)

Battles 1-10: F4 had Br (3), SRS3 had Br (4)
Battles 11-20: F4 had Br (4), SRS3 had Br (3)
Just got the new FORNEUS today, it's pretty epic.

Forneus F4 Gravity Orbit vs Valtyrek V2 Knuckle Xtreme
F4.G.O: 9 wins (8 OS, 1 burst)
V2.K.X: 11 wins (10 KO, 1 burst)
F4.G.O win rate: 45%

Forneus F4 Gravity Orbit vs Odin Heavy Defense
F4.G.O: 1 win (1 OS)
OHD: 9 wins (8 OS, 1 KO)
F4.G.O win rate: 10%

Forneus F4 Gravity Orbit vs Dragoon F Polish Absorb
F4.G.O: 2 wins (2 OS)
dGF.P.Ab: 8 wins (8 OS)
F4.G.O win rate: 20%

Forneus F4 Gravity Orbit vs Neptune Knuckle Revolve
F4.G.O: 7 wins (7 OS)
NGR: 3 wins (3 OS)
F4.G.O win rate: 70%

Aside from being a bit difficult to burst, it performed more or less how I expected.
(Mar. 07, 2019  6:16 PM)kjrules17 Wrote: Finally got the first part of the Forneus F4 Testing done. I also shortened my testing video to show you a couple battles from each test as well.

Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Caynox C3 7 Revolve (Even): Wombat - Timestamp
- F4.7.Br: 2 Burst, 1 OS (15% Win Rate)
- C3.7.R: 17 OS (85% Win Rate)

Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Caynox C3 7 Bearing (Even): Wombat (Switch Brs After 10 Battles) - Timestamp
- F4.7.Br: 1 Burst (5% Win Rate)
- C3.7.Br: 19 OS (95% Win Rate)

Battles 1-10: F4 had Br (3), C3 had Br (4)
Battles 11-20: F4 had Br (4), C3 had Br (3)

Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. (Right Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 7 Bearing (Even): Wombat (Switch Brs After 10 Battles) - Timestamp
- F4.7.Br: 1 OS (5% Win Rate)
- SRS3.7.Br: 18 OS, 1 Burst (95% Win Rate)

Battles 1-10: F4 had Br (3), SRS3 had Br (4)
Battles 11-20: F4 had Br (4), SRS3 had Br (3)

Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. (Right Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 0 Bearing (Even): Wombat (Switch Brs After 10 Battles) - Timestamp
- F4.7.Br: 3 OS (15% Win Rate)
- SRS3.0.Br: 15 OS, 2 Burst (85% Win Rate)

Battles 1-10: F4 had Br (3), SRS3 had Br (4)
Battles 11-20: F4 had Br (4), SRS3 had Br (3)
I guess this means F4 is outclassed for stamina Smile
To me f4 seems like a less op D2
Got the second part of the Forneus F4 Testing done. I'll be testing it on Atomic soon as well.

Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. (Left Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 7 Bearing (Even): Wombat (Switch Brs After 10 Battles) - Timestamp
- F4.7.Br: 15 OS (75% Win Rate)
- SRS3.7.Br: 4 OS, 1 KO (25% Win Rate)

Battles 1-10: F4 had Br (3), SRS3 had Br (4)
Battles 11-20: F4 had Br (4), SRS3 had Br (3)

Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. (Left Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 0 Bearing (Even): Wombat (Switch Brs After 10 Battles) - Timestamp
- F4.7.Br: 13 OS (65% Win Rate)
- SRS3.0.Br: 6 OS, 1 KO (35% Win Rate)

Battles 1-10: F4 had Br (3), SRS3 had Br (4)
Battles 11-20: F4 had Br (4), SRS3 had Br (3)

Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Xcalius X3 0Cross Orbit (Even): Wombat - Timestamp
- F4.7.Br: 11 OS, 4 Burst (75% Win Rate)
- X3.0C.O: 3 Burst, 1 OS, 1 KO (25% Win Rate)

Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Xcalius X3 0Cross Atomic (Even): Wombat - Timestamp
- F4.7.Br: 11 OS, 2 Burst (65% Win Rate)
- X3.0C.At: 3 Burst, 3 KO, 1 OS (35% Win Rate)

Forneus F4 7 Bearing (First) vs. Fafnir F3 7Glaive Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat - Timestamp
- F4.7.Br: 18 OS, 1 Burst (95% Win Rate)
- F3.7G.Ds: 1 KO (5% Win Rate)
Here are some more tests I did with Forneus F4. As far as the weight goes, I got 9.43 grams when weighing the Layer. I've actually done testing with this Layer already, however, there were a few tests I hadn't done with it yet: Forneus F4 vs. Balkesh B3, Forneus F4 vs. Garuda G3, and testing Forneus F4 for Attack. I had also changed my testing style since the last time I tested Forneus F4 by making it way more streamlined. The first section was just its matchups against Balkesh B3 and Garuda G3, as I had already done its matchups against Caynox C3 and Spryzen Requiem S3 in earlier tests. The second section was testing KO Attack and comparing its performance to Xcalius X3, one of the best Hasbro Right Spin Attack Layers we have right now.

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Section 1: Same & Opposite Spin Stamina (Click to View)

Section 2: KO Attack (Click to View)

Final Thoughts (Click to View)