Forneus F4 Testing and Discussion - Universe04 - Dec. 13, 2018
Hey everyone! I saw there wasn’t a testing thread for Forneus F4 yet and thought I’d make one myself. Later today I’ll be doing some testing now that my life isn’t as consumed by Pokémon and Smash Bros anymore.
(Right)Spryzen Requiem S3 0Cross Bearing(Odd) VS Forneus F4 0Bump Atomic(Even):
1. SrS3 OS
2. SrS3 KO
3. SrS3 OS
4. F4 OS
5. F4 OS
6. F4 OS
7. F4 OS
8. F4 KO
9. SrS3 KO
10. F4 OS
11. F4 OS
12. SrS3 OS
13. SrS3 OS
14. F4 OS
15. SrS3 OS
16. SrS3 OS
17. F4 OS
18. SrS3 OS
19. SrS3 OS
20. SrS3 OS SrS3.0,C.Br: 2 KO, 9 OS (55% Win Rate)
F4.0,B.At: 1 KO, 8 OS (45% Win Rate)
Every battle was very close (half rotation)
RE: Forneus F4 Testing and Discussion - DaJetsnake - Dec. 13, 2018
(Dec. 13, 2018 5:43 PM)Universe04 Wrote: Hey everyone! I saw there wasn’t a testing thread for Forneus F4 yet and thought I’d make one myself. Later today I’ll be doing some testing now that my life isn’t as consumed by Pokémon and Smash Bros anymore.
(Right)Spryzen Requiem S3 0Cross Bearing(Odd) VS Forneus F4 0Bump Atomic(Even):
1. SrS3 OS
2. SrS3 KO
3. SrS3 OS
4. F4 OS
5. F4 OS
6. F4 OS
7. F4 OS
8. F4 KO
9. SrS3 KO
10. F4 OS
11. F4 OS
12. SrS3 OS
13. SrS3 OS
14. F4 OS
15. SrS3 OS
16. SrS3 OS
17. F4 OS
18. SrS3 OS
19. SrS3 OS
20. SrS3 OS ®SrS3.0,C.Br: 2 KO, 9 OS (55% Win Rate)
F4.0,B.At: 1 KO, 8 OS (45% Win Rate)
Every battle was very close (half rotation)
ftfy
wait nvm, anyway, that's pretty interesting considering how much lighter Turbo is to Switchstrike
RE: Forneus F4 Testing and Discussion - Universe04 - Dec. 16, 2018
(Right)Spryzen Requiem S3 0Cross Bearing(Odd) VS Forneus F4 0Bump Orbit(Even):
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 KO
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
SrS3.0,C.Br: 1 KO, 9 OS (50% Win Rate)
F4.0,B.O: 10 OS (50% Win Rate)
Woah.
(Right)Spryzen Requiem S3 0Cross Bearing(Odd) VS Forneus F4 0Bump [BR]Yard-S(Even):
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 Burst
- F4 OS
- SrS3 Burst
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 Burst
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 Burst
- SrS3 Burst
SrS3.0,C.Br: 5 Burst, 6 OS (55% Win Rate)
F4.0,B.Yr-S: 9 OS (45% Win Rate)
These battles definitely show how terrible the spring on Yard-S is :/
RE: Forneus F4 Testing and Discussion - Dt20000 - Dec. 22, 2018
I recently got a Forneus F4, which means I can do testing now too
RE: Forneus F4 Testing and Discussion - Flame~Capricorn - Dec. 28, 2018
(Dec. 16, 2018 6:48 AM)Universe04 Wrote: (Right)Spryzen Requiem S3 0Cross Bearing(Odd) VS Forneus F4 0Bump Orbit(Even):
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 KO
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
SrS3.0,C.Br: 1 KO, 9 OS (50% Win Rate)
F4.0,B.O: 10 OS (50% Win Rate)
Woah.
(Right)Spryzen Requiem S3 0Cross Bearing(Odd) VS Forneus F4 0Bump [BR]Yard-S(Even):
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 Burst
- F4 OS
- SrS3 Burst
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 Burst
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 Burst
- SrS3 Burst
SrS3.0,C.Br: 5 Burst, 6 OS (55% Win Rate)
F4.0,B.Yr-S: 9 OS (45% Win Rate)
These battles definitely show how terrible the spring on Yard-S is
Either I got lucky or you got unlucky, because my Yard-S has a great spring.
RE: Forneus F4 Testing and Discussion - Universe04 - Dec. 28, 2018
(Dec. 28, 2018 3:03 AM)Flame~Capricorn Wrote: (Dec. 16, 2018 6:48 AM)Universe04 Wrote: (Right)Spryzen Requiem S3 0Cross Bearing(Odd) VS Forneus F4 0Bump Orbit(Even):
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 KO
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
SrS3.0,C.Br: 1 KO, 9 OS (50% Win Rate)
F4.0,B.O: 10 OS (50% Win Rate)
Woah.
(Right)Spryzen Requiem S3 0Cross Bearing(Odd) VS Forneus F4 0Bump [BR]Yard-S(Even):
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 Burst
- F4 OS
- SrS3 Burst
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 Burst
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 OS
- F4 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 OS
- SrS3 Burst
- SrS3 Burst
SrS3.0,C.Br: 5 Burst, 6 OS (55% Win Rate)
F4.0,B.Yr-S: 9 OS (45% Win Rate)
These battles definitely show how terrible the spring on Yard-S is
Either I got lucky or you got unlucky, because my Yard-S has a great spring. Really? From everyone I’ve talked to they said the spring was really bad. You must’ve gotten lucky!
RE: Forneus F4 Testing and Discussion - kjrules17 - Mar. 07, 2019
Finally got the first part of the Forneus F4 Testing done. I also shortened my testing video to show you a couple battles from each test as well.
Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Caynox C3 7 Revolve (Even): Wombat - Timestamp
- C3 OS
- F4 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- F4 Burst
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- F4 Burst
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- F4.7.Br: 2 Burst, 1 OS (15% Win Rate)
- C3.7.R: 17 OS (85% Win Rate)
Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Caynox C3 7 Bearing (Even): Wombat (Switch Brs After 10 Battles) - Timestamp
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- F4 Burst
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- F4.7.Br: 1 Burst (5% Win Rate)
- C3.7.Br: 19 OS (95% Win Rate)
Battles 1-10: F4 had Br (3), C3 had Br (4)
Battles 11-20: F4 had Br (4), C3 had Br (3)
Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. (Right Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 7 Bearing (Even): Wombat (Switch Brs After 10 Battles) - Timestamp
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- F4 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 Burst
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- F4.7.Br: 1 OS (5% Win Rate)
- SRS3.7.Br: 18 OS, 1 Burst (95% Win Rate)
Battles 1-10: F4 had Br (3), SRS3 had Br (4)
Battles 11-20: F4 had Br (4), SRS3 had Br (3)
Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. (Right Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 0 Bearing (Even): Wombat (Switch Brs After 10 Battles) - Timestamp
- F4 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 Burst
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- F4 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- F4 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 Burst
- F4.7.Br: 3 OS (15% Win Rate)
- SRS3.0.Br: 15 OS, 2 Burst (85% Win Rate)
Battles 1-10: F4 had Br (3), SRS3 had Br (4)
Battles 11-20: F4 had Br (4), SRS3 had Br (3)
RE: Forneus F4 Testing and Discussion - Wombat - Mar. 10, 2019
Just got the new FORNEUS today, it's pretty epic.
Forneus F4 Gravity Orbit vs Valtyrek V2 Knuckle Xtreme
F4.G.O: 9 wins (8 OS, 1 burst)
V2.K.X: 11 wins (10 KO, 1 burst)
F4.G.O win rate: 45%
Forneus F4 Gravity Orbit vs Odin Heavy Defense
F4.G.O: 1 win (1 OS)
OHD: 9 wins (8 OS, 1 KO)
F4.G.O win rate: 10%
Forneus F4 Gravity Orbit vs Dragoon F Polish Absorb
F4.G.O: 2 wins (2 OS)
dGF.P.Ab: 8 wins (8 OS)
F4.G.O win rate: 20%
Forneus F4 Gravity Orbit vs Neptune Knuckle Revolve
F4.G.O: 7 wins (7 OS)
NGR: 3 wins (3 OS)
F4.G.O win rate: 70%
Aside from being a bit difficult to burst, it performed more or less how I expected.
RE: Forneus F4 Testing and Discussion - CheetoBlader - Mar. 17, 2019
(Mar. 07, 2019 6:16 PM)kjrules17 Wrote: Finally got the first part of the Forneus F4 Testing done. I also shortened my testing video to show you a couple battles from each test as well.
Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Caynox C3 7 Revolve (Even): Wombat - Timestamp
- C3 OS
- F4 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- F4 Burst
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- F4 Burst
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- F4.7.Br: 2 Burst, 1 OS (15% Win Rate)
- C3.7.R: 17 OS (85% Win Rate)
Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Caynox C3 7 Bearing (Even): Wombat (Switch Brs After 10 Battles) - Timestamp
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- F4 Burst
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- F4.7.Br: 1 Burst (5% Win Rate)
- C3.7.Br: 19 OS (95% Win Rate)
Battles 1-10: F4 had Br (3), C3 had Br (4)
Battles 11-20: F4 had Br (4), C3 had Br (3)
Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. (Right Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 7 Bearing (Even): Wombat (Switch Brs After 10 Battles) - Timestamp
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- F4 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 Burst
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- F4.7.Br: 1 OS (5% Win Rate)
- SRS3.7.Br: 18 OS, 1 Burst (95% Win Rate)
Battles 1-10: F4 had Br (3), SRS3 had Br (4)
Battles 11-20: F4 had Br (4), SRS3 had Br (3)
Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. (Right Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 0 Bearing (Even): Wombat (Switch Brs After 10 Battles) - Timestamp
- F4 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 Burst
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- F4 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- F4 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 Burst
- F4.7.Br: 3 OS (15% Win Rate)
- SRS3.0.Br: 15 OS, 2 Burst (85% Win Rate)
Battles 1-10: F4 had Br (3), SRS3 had Br (4)
Battles 11-20: F4 had Br (4), SRS3 had Br (3) I guess this means F4 is outclassed for stamina
RE: Forneus F4 Testing and Discussion - Rebel Blader - Mar. 17, 2019
To me f4 seems like a less op D2
RE: Forneus F4 Testing and Discussion - kjrules17 - Mar. 25, 2019
Got the second part of the Forneus F4 Testing done. I'll be testing it on Atomic soon as well.
Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. (Left Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 7 Bearing (Even): Wombat (Switch Brs After 10 Battles) - Timestamp
- SRS3 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SRS3 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 KO
- F4 OS
- SRS3 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4.7.Br: 15 OS (75% Win Rate)
- SRS3.7.Br: 4 OS, 1 KO (25% Win Rate)
Battles 1-10: F4 had Br (3), SRS3 had Br (4)
Battles 11-20: F4 had Br (4), SRS3 had Br (3)
Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. (Left Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 0 Bearing (Even): Wombat (Switch Brs After 10 Battles) - Timestamp
- F4 OS
- SRS3 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SRS3 KO
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- SRS3 OS
- F4 OS
- SRS3 OS
- F4 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- SRS3 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4.7.Br: 13 OS (65% Win Rate)
- SRS3.0.Br: 6 OS, 1 KO (35% Win Rate)
Battles 1-10: F4 had Br (3), SRS3 had Br (4)
Battles 11-20: F4 had Br (4), SRS3 had Br (3)
Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Xcalius X3 0Cross Orbit (Even): Wombat - Timestamp
- F4 OS
- X3 Burst
- X3 OS
- X3 Burst
- F4 Burst
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- X3 KO
- F4 OS
- F4 Burst
- F4 Burst
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- X3 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 Burst
- F4 OS
- F4.7.Br: 11 OS, 4 Burst (75% Win Rate)
- X3.0C.O: 3 Burst, 1 OS, 1 KO (25% Win Rate)
Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Xcalius X3 0Cross Atomic (Even): Wombat - Timestamp
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 Burst
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- X3 OS
- F4 OS
- X3 Burst
- F4 OS
- X3 KO
- F4 OS
- X3 Burst
- X3 Burst
- F4 Burst
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- X3 KO
- X3 KO
- F4 OS
- F4.7.Br: 11 OS, 2 Burst (65% Win Rate)
- X3.0C.At: 3 Burst, 3 KO, 1 OS (35% Win Rate)
Forneus F4 7 Bearing (First) vs. Fafnir F3 7Glaive Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat - Timestamp
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 Burst
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F3 KO
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4.7.Br: 18 OS, 1 Burst (95% Win Rate)
- F3.7G.Ds: 1 KO (5% Win Rate)
RE: Forneus F4 Testing and Discussion - kjrules17 - Sep. 28, 2019
Here are some more tests I did with Forneus F4. As far as the weight goes, I got 9.43 grams when weighing the Layer. I've actually done testing with this Layer already, however, there were a few tests I hadn't done with it yet: Forneus F4 vs. Balkesh B3, Forneus F4 vs. Garuda G3, and testing Forneus F4 for Attack. I had also changed my testing style since the last time I tested Forneus F4 by making it way more streamlined. The first section was just its matchups against Balkesh B3 and Garuda G3, as I had already done its matchups against Caynox C3 and Spryzen Requiem S3 in earlier tests. The second section was testing KO Attack and comparing its performance to Xcalius X3, one of the best Hasbro Right Spin Attack Layers we have right now.
If the part being tested doesn't stack up to its opponents, that doesn't necessarily mean it's outclassed overall. It just means it probably isn’t as good when compared to its opponents in whatever specific thing I’m testing for, whether that be Same or Opposite Spin Stamina, KO Attack, etc. Sometimes though, more tests will need to be done in order to get more information to find out what exactly this part can be good at. These tests I’m doing are just the baseline information to tell me whether the part is better at something when being compared to another part or if it needs to be tested in other areas to find out what it can be good at.
I used 7 Bearing when Forneus F4 faced Balkesh B3 and 7 Atomic when Forneus F4 faced Garuda G3. Discs and Drivers were switched halfway through the tests.
Forneus F4 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Balkesh B3 7 Bearing (Even) - Switch Discs And Drivers After 10 Battles
- B3 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- F4 OS
- B3 OS
- B3 OS
- B3 OS
- F4 OS
- B3 OS
- F4 OS
- B3 OS
- B3 OS
- B3 OS
- B3 OS
- F4 OS
- B3 OS
- B3 OS
- B3 OS
- B3 OS
- B3 OS
- F4.7.Br: 6 OS (30% Win Rate)
- B3.7.Br: 14 OS (70% Win Rate)
Battles 1-10: F4 had 7 (1) and Br (3), B3 had 7 (2) and Br (4)
Battles 11-20: F4 had 7 (2) and Br (4), B3 had 7 (1) and Br (3)
Forneus F4 7 Atomic (Odd) vs. Garuda G3 7 Atomic (Even) - Switch Discs And Drivers After 10 Battles
- G3 OS
- G3 OS
- G3 OS
- G3 OS
- G3 OS
- G3 OS
- G3 OS
- G3 OS
- G3 OS
- G3 OS
- G3 OS
- G3 OS
- G3 OS
- F4 OS
- G3 OS
- F4 OS
- G3 OS
- F4 OS
- G3 OS
- F4 OS
- F4.7.At: 4 OS (20% Win Rate)
- G3.7.At: 16 OS (80% Win Rate)
Battles 1-10: F4 had 7 (1) and At (1), G3 had 7 (2) and At (2)
Battles 11-20: F4 had 7 (2) and At (2), G3 had 7 (1) and At (1)
After having Xcalius X3 00Bump Hunter face Caynox C3 7 Bearing, I used Forneus F4 on the same setup as Xcalius X3 to compare performance.
Caynox C3 7 Bearing (First) vs. Xcalius X3 00Bump Hunter (Second Sliding Shoot)
- X3 KO
- X3 KO
- X3 Burst
- X3 KO
- X3 KO
- X3 Burst
- X3 Burst
- X3 Burst
- X3 Burst
- X3 Burst
- C3.7.Br: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)
- X3.00B.Hn: 6 Burst, 4 KO (100% Win Rate)
Caynox C3 7 Bearing (First) vs. Forneus F4 00Bump Hunter (Second Sliding Shoot)
- F4 Burst
- F4 Burst
- C3 Burst
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- C3 OS
- F4 Burst
- F4 Burst
- C3.7.Br: 5 OS, 1 Burst (60% Win Rate)
- F4.00B.Hn: 4 Burst (40% Win Rate)
Forneus F4 doesn't look like it has as much Same Spin Stamina as Caynox C3, Garuda G3, or (Right Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3. While Balkesh B3 looks like it has more Opposite Spin Stamina than Forneus F4, Forneus F4 does look like it has more Opposite Spin Stamina than (Left Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3. Forneus F4 also seems like it has some decent KO Attack Potential, but not as much as Xcalius X3. But of course, these are just a few things that Forneus F4 has been tested for. There’s always room for more testing as it can help us find out if there are other things that Forneus F4 could be good at. With Forneus F4 now out of the way, the other 2 Layers I have done tests for but will revisit next are Wonder Valtryek V4 and Z Achilles A4.
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