It'll be interesting to sew how far Hasbro rides this gimmickless Chou Z trend, because so far all we've got is some faster than usual dual-layers. This bey isnt even any better than the Evolution Roktavor in that regard.
Although that said, I absolutely ADORE the recolours. Old parts with updated gimmicks and a neat overall theme? I LOVE IT. Shame it shares a package with such disappointing Chou Z remakes.

I've already started mourning the future loss of gimmickless Phoenix. Imagine Hasbro having to make one or two pieces of extra plastic.... the horror.

I thought with Roktavor R4 even if it had no metal they would at least have the plastic wings on it but nope. I haven't seen the Reach frame either on any of the Beys for the app so I hope it's not skipped out like a lot of stuff.

Revive Phoenix from the app doesn't look like it's fused together with the layer so I'm not too worried on that but the Friction for Hasbro does not look like it's gonna be the same like the original.

Hey, Zankye. I had a thought: What if Turbo isn't just SlingShock? Like, what could they seriously do with Destroy, Friction, Eternal, Zephyr, Operate, and Zeta? The only thing I can see happening with those is a new gimmick. Or, better yet, they release the normal parts, meaning that SlingShock was just a test (unlikely). Something I hope they do is upgrade more parts in ways that aren't SlingShock. Maybe make them into what everyone thought Dash/Prime Drivers were. I know that this all seems like very hopeless speculation, but JoJo brought up a great point in her RBV 12 SlingShock Battle video, where she took off all the frames because they interfered with the rails. And guess what the sketchiest frame for SlingShock is: Lift. And 12 Lift is a two-part disc in the app. also, Destroy-S doesn't look like a SlingShock tip in the app. Neither do Operate, Eternal, or Friction. And I now hope that this is true so I don't get disappointed when Waves 2 and 3 are leaked...

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Since "超" means "Cho", just call it choV

fine by me I guess, anyway, since this is getting off-topic, i think it shall be called Champion Valtryek because it sounds tuff and also makes sense for all new Cho Z beys (assuming they will all have the same Hasbro abbreviation)

If not, Champion Valtryek V4, Charred Spryzen S4, and Challenge Achilles A4 could suffice. (I'm not so sure about S4 though, since there aren't that many words that work)

I thought with Roktavor R4 even if it had no metal they would at least have the plastic wings on it but nope. I haven't seen the Reach frame either on any of the Beys for the app so I hope it's not skipped out like a lot of stuff.

Revive Phoenix from the app doesn't look like it's fused together with the layer so I'm not too worried on that but the Friction for Hasbro does not look like it's gonna be the same like the original.

Hey, Zankye. I had a thought: What if Turbo isn't just SlingShock? Like, what could they seriously do with Destroy, Friction, Eternal, Zephyr, Operate, and Zeta? The only thing I can see happening with those is a new gimmick. 

the app confirmed we'll have Operate-S,Destroy-S,Eternal-S and Friction-S.

I could see something like with Ds-S,the free-spinning plate locks in somehow and becomes the tip (same with Et-S), Op-S having 4 modes, and with Friction in the app looking to lack any rubber or POM,just having the same type of gimmick of Massive-S

Hey, Zankye. I had a thought: What if Turbo isn't just SlingShock? Like, what could they seriously do with Destroy, Friction, Eternal, Zephyr, Operate, and Zeta? The only thing I can see happening with those is a new gimmick. 

the app confirmed we'll have Operate-S,Destroy-S,Eternal-S and Friction-S.

I could see something like with Ds-S,the free-spinning plate locks in somehow and becomes the tip (same with Et-S), Op-S having 4 modes, and with Friction in the app looking to lack any rubber or POM,just having the same type of gimmick of Massive-S

What do you mean Massive-S? There has been no Massive-S anywhere, as far as I know...

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And also, they might be placeholders, but I also think Destroy has too wide of a plate and too little aggression to become a SlingShock tip, uless you mean that the plate becomes the point of contact with the floor, like Hold.

I thought with Roktavor R4 even if it had no metal they would at least have the plastic wings on it but nope. I haven't seen the Reach frame either on any of the Beys for the app so I hope it's not skipped out like a lot of stuff.

Revive Phoenix from the app doesn't look like it's fused together with the layer so I'm not too worried on that but the Friction for Hasbro does not look like it's gonna be the same like the original.

Hey, Zankye. I had a thought: What if Turbo isn't just SlingShock? Like, what could they seriously do with Destroy, Friction, Eternal, Zephyr, Operate, and Zeta? The only thing I can see happening with those is a new gimmick. Or, better yet, they release the normal parts, meaning that SlingShock was just a test (unlikely). Something I hope they do is upgrade more parts in ways that aren't SlingShock. Maybe make them into what everyone thought Dash/Prime Drivers were. I know that this all seems like very hopeless speculation, but JoJo brought up a great point in her RBV 12 SlingShock Battle video, where she took off all the frames because they interfered with the rails. And guess what the sketchiest frame for SlingShock is: Lift. And 12 Lift is a two-part disc in the app. also, Destroy-S doesn't look like a SlingShock tip in the app. Neither do Operate, Eternal, or Friction. And I now hope that this is true so I don't get disappointed when Waves 2 and 3 are leaked...

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fine by me I guess, anyway, since this is getting off-topic, i think it shall be called Champion Valtryek because it sounds tuff and also makes sense for all new Cho Z beys (assuming they will all have the same Hasbro abbreviation)

If not, Champion Valtryek V4, Charred Spryzen S4, and Challenge Achilles A4 could suffice. (I'm not so sure about S4 though, since there aren't that many words that work)

I don't know but the Beyblades have been based so far on the Rail Rush Stadium for riding the rails. I did point out a long time ago that the -S on the performance tip could mean that we eventually get a normal release for those Beyblades but don't know as of right now. As for the removal of frames, I feel they could've had printed on the instructions to ensure that the Beys perform as good as they should in those stadiums the user has to remove the frame. Of course, they're just gonna be doing later releases with the actual parts needed on 2-Packs so not really too much of an issue. I haven't seen the Reach frame on any product recently so I'm not sure if or when they're gonna do it. As for the other parts developed in the app that doesn't look like SS, that could honestly be just an issue with the development with the app I don't think they can really show the gimmicks on that stuff especially with how Turbo broke the whole app after the last update.

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We have a video covering the other set of Wave 1 2-Packs and Zeutron Z4 and Treptune T4 are something else.

Since "超" means "Cho", just call it choV

fine by me I guess, anyway, since this is getting off-topic, i think it shall be called Champion Valtryek because it sounds tuff and also makes sense for all new Cho Z beys (assuming they will all have the same Hasbro abbreviation)

I call it CZ-V, but to each their own I guess... Anyway, do we have dates on rP, aH, bX, hS, gF, vL, and/or dH, etc.?

fine by me I guess, anyway, since this is getting off-topic, i think it shall be called Champion Valtryek because it sounds tuff and also makes sense for all new Cho Z beys (assuming they will all have the same Hasbro abbreviation)

I call it CZ-V, but to each their own I guess... Anyway, do we have dates on rP, aH, bX, hS, gF, vL, and/or dH, etc.?

Nope, the only thing we can say confidently is the obvious that they'll come 2019

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hS may come out in December though, for the holiday season.

They removed all the gimmicks confirmed? Treptune is plastic? *quits*

Umm, Okay? Welp, there goes our chances of a fully functional Hasbro’s Cho-Z Valkyrie.

Umm, Okay? Welp, there goes our chances of a fully functional Hasbro’s Cho-Z Valkyrie.

No proof until we have the pudding

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My two beys Earth Eagle, Dark Libra, forever lost,

you'll always be the one that started my hobby

and the Beyblade Geeks rekindled it.

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Umm, Okay? Welp, there goes our chances of a fully functional Hasbro’s Cho-Z Valkyrie.

No proof until we have the pudding

If the vanilla pudding tastes bad the chocolate pudding will too. (I can elaborate if needed)

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Give me all the bread

Gosh darn it. I just realized that the orichalcum Hasbro is going to realease that I really wanted probably won’t have the right driver, and the gimmick might not work.

Gosh darn it. I just realized that the orichalcum Hasbro is going to realease that I really wanted probably won’t have the right driver, and the gimmick might not work.

You mean Octa that has been on the app?

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My two beys Earth Eagle, Dark Libra, forever lost,

you'll always be the one that started my hobby

and the Beyblade Geeks rekindled it.

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Gosh darn it. I just realized that the orichalcum Hasbro is going to realease that I really wanted probably won’t have the right driver, and the gimmick might not work.

You mean Octa that has been on the app?

I mean like the driver may be different in a performance way.

You mean Octa that has been on the app?

I mean like the driver may be different in a performance way.

Wedge-S kept its metal, what's to say Hasbro's Octa Tip won't

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you'll always be the one that started my hobby

and the Beyblade Geeks rekindled it.

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Hasbro's beyblade burst turbo is a good concept. However, It just doesn't work.

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I mean like the driver may be different in a performance way.

Wedge-S kept its metal, what's to say Hasbro's Octa Tip won't

I’m saying it might not have as much stamina as the original, it might be a little more aggressive, etc. It also might not. Who knows.

That's a good meme, Boltoms

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Why does Hasbro listen to so much soft rock music?
Because they don't have any metal lmao

But forreals, I was almost worried Hasbro releasing a good Orichalcum would devalue the legit TT one. Now that its more or less confirmed to have no gimmick, I'm almost relieved. Now we wait and see wether Octa has metal or not. Place your bets, fellas.

Why does Hasbro listen to so much soft rock music?
Because they don't have any metal lmao

But forreals, I was almost worried Hasbro releasing a good Orichalcum would devalue the legit TT one. Now that its more or less confirmed to have no gimmick, I'm almost relieved. Now we wait and see wether Octa has metal or not. Place your bets, fellas.

Since Wedge-S has metal, Octa would most definitely have metal

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My two beys Earth Eagle, Dark Libra, forever lost,

you'll always be the one that started my hobby

and the Beyblade Geeks rekindled it.

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Honestly, im gonna get shining amiterios metal or not. It looks sooo good

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I was honestly just getting used to Hasbro’s non-metal scheme when suddenly, Roktavor R4, Treptune T3 (a.k.a. Spiral Treptune T4) And Zeutron Z3 (a.k.a. Galaxy Zeutron Z4), every gimmick they ever had that was supposed to improve their own stats are GONE. No wonder they never made Planet they’re reducing every future God Layer beyblade to nothing. Just when I thought I was okay with every single Turbo bey not including metal in them. Oh I have an idea, they’re not what you call SwitchStrike layers. They’re not Turbo layers. They’re what Hasbro calls SLINGSGHOCK LAYERS, no wonder they don’t have gimmicks in them, even Guardian Kerbeus (a.k.a. Kerbeus K4) doesn’t have their gimmicks.

I wish they broke them down into two separate groups, the Slingshock series where every single bey is focused on extreme speed, and the Turbo series, where each layer is more expensive and consists of actual metal (which will never be built ever again until they reassess the situation). That should’ve been their marketing plan.

Apparently my local Target has Turbo! I just got the recolored Z Achilles a few hours ago.