[Hasbro] Balkesh B3 Testing and Discussion

kjrules17 · Oct. 05, 2018 1:14 AM

Balkesh B3 7 Bearing (Odd) vs. Garuda G3 7Cross Bearing (Even): Wombat

- B3.7.Br: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)
- G3.7C.Br: 20 OS (100% Win Rate)

Battles 1-10: B3 had Br (1), G3 had Br (2)
Battles 11-20: B3 had Br (2), G3 had Br (1)

Balkesh B3 7Glaive Bearing (Odd) vs. Garuda G3 7Cross Bearing (Even): Wombat

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- B3.7G.Br: 2 KO, 1 OS (15% Win Rate)
- G3.7C.Br: 15 OS, 2 KO (85% Win Rate)

Battles 1-10: B3 had Br (1), G3 had Br (2)
Battles 11-20: B3 had Br (2), G3 had Br (1)

I also wanted to see how Under would do as I haven’t seen a lot of tests with it.

Balkesh B3 7Under Bearing (Odd) vs. Garuda G3 7Cross Bearing (Even): Wombat

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- B3.7U.Br: 2 OS, 2 KO (20% Win Rate)
- G3.7C.Br: 15 OS, 1 KO (80% Win Rate)

Battles 1-10: B3 had Br (1), G3 had Br (2)
Battles 11-20: B3 had Br (2), G3 had Br (1)

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Rebel Blader · Oct. 05, 2018 11:26 AM

(Oct. 04, 2018 2:29 PM)kjrules17 Wrote: Not this time. If I didn't clarify it, I didn't do it. I didn't do it when I was testing B3.0B.Br or B3.7.Br, so to do it now, I'd have to go back and redo a lot of stuff. But in the future, I will. Sorry about that.

Its ok if the Br drivers are identical tho

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Beyblader101_ · Oct. 05, 2018 1:02 PM

lol finally B3 has 2 counters which are G3 and F3.

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kjrules17 · Oct. 05, 2018 9:09 PM

Caynox C3 7 Revolve (First) vs. Balkesh B3 7Glaive Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat

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- C3.7.R: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)
- B3.7G.Ds: 18 OS, 2 Burst (100% Win Rate)

Caynox C3 7 Bearing (First) vs. Balkesh B3 7Glaive Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat

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- C3.7.Br: 17 OS, 1 KO (90% Win Rate)
- B3.7G.Ds: 2 KO (10% Win Rate)

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kjrules17 · Oct. 10, 2018 1:43 AM

(Right Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 7 Bearing (First) vs. Balkesh B3 7Glaive Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat

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- SRS3.7.Br: 7 OS, 4 KO (55% Win Rate)
- B3.7G.Ds: 7 OS, 2 KO (45% Win Rate)

(Left Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 7 Bearing (First) vs. Balkesh B3 7Glaive Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat

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- SRS3.7.Br: 3 OS, 2 KO (25% Win Rate)
- B3.7G.Ds: 15 OS (75% Win Rate)

(Right Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 0 Bearing (First) vs. Balkesh B3 7Glaive Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat

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- SRS3.0.Br: 5 OS, 5 KO (50% Win Rate)
- B3.7G.Ds: 8 OS, 2 KO (50% Win Rate)

(Left Spin) Spryzen Requiem S3 0 Bearing (First) vs. Balkesh B3 7Glaive Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat

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- SRS3.0.Br: 0 Wins (0% Win Rate)
- B3.7G.Ds: 19 OS, 1 KO (100% Win Rate)

Xcalius X3 0Cross Orbit (First) vs. Balkesh B3 7Glaive Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat

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- X3.0C.O: 2 KO (10% Win Rate)
- B3.7G.Ds: 16 OS, 1 Burst, 1 KO (90% Win Rate)

Xcalius X3 0Cross Atomic (First) vs. Balkesh B3 7Glaive Destroy (Second Sliding Shoot): Wombat

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- X3.0C.At: 3 KO (15% Wn Rate)
- B3.7G.Ds: 15 OS, 2 KO (85% Win Rate)

Fafnir F3 7Glaive Destroy (Odd Sliding Shoot) vs. Balkesh B3 7Glaive Destroy (Even Sliding Shoot): Wombat

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- F3.7G.Ds: 10 OS (50% Win Rate)
- B3.7G.Ds: 9 OS, 1 Burst (50% Win Rate)

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View All Faces · Nov. 26, 2018 1:42 AM

B3 seems really good and has been doing well in tournaments. So I tested it a bit as well.

B3.7W.Br vs (Right)Sr.7W.Br
B3. 8 OS (80% win rate)
Sr. 2 OS (20% win rate)
Draws: 9
Many of the matches are very close. And they could be called differently with a different pair of eyes. But I am pretty sure B3 beats Sr in this set up overall.

Video: https://youtu.be/0koBBxehc3k

View All Faces · Nov. 26, 2018 3:26 AM

(Nov. 26, 2018 1:42 AM)Shindog Wrote: B3 seems really good and has been doing well in tournaments. So I tested it a bit as well.

B3.7W.Br vs (Right)Sr.7W.Br
B3. 8 OS (80% win rate)
Sr. 2 OS (20% win rate)
Draws: 9
Many of the matches are very close. And they could be called differently with a different pair of eyes. But I am pretty sure B3 beats Sr in this set up overall.

Video: https://youtu.be/0koBBxehc3k

Yeah, makes sense, but good to hear!

#Fafnir · Nov. 30, 2018 4:57 PM

I have balkesh b3 and It beats ALL of my beyblades. I think it should be banned.

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kjrules17 · Nov. 30, 2018 8:31 PM

(Nov. 30, 2018 4:57 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: I have balkesh b3 and It beats ALL of my beyblades. I think it should be banned.

Pump the brakes there lol. Balkesh B3 is definitely good, but it doesn't beat everything. Hell Salamander is an example, on the right combos, most hS combos will beat most B3 combos.

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Jman jman · Nov. 30, 2018 8:42 PM

(Nov. 30, 2018 4:57 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: I have balkesh b3 and It beats ALL of my beyblades. I think it should be banned.

What beyblades did you have?

#Fafnir · Nov. 30, 2018 8:52 PM

Jman, did you get my friend request?

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Jman jman · Nov. 30, 2018 8:54 PM

(Nov. 30, 2018 8:52 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: Jman, did you get my friend request?

On the app

No it did not come up

#Fafnir · Nov. 30, 2018 8:55 PM

Did you get my friend name on a pm?

What about now, Jman?

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Dt20000 · Nov. 30, 2018 10:22 PM

(Nov. 30, 2018 8:55 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: Did you get my friend name on a pm?

What about now, Jman?

(Nov. 30, 2018 8:52 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: Jman, did you get my friend request?

On the app

That is off topic.

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HyperBey123 · Nov. 30, 2018 11:24 PM

bL 7B Jt Sliding shoot vs b3 7 At and b3 7 Br.

View All Faces · Dec. 28, 2018 10:05 AM

Hey guys, today I'm testing to see which hasbro frame is the best for LAD on Bearing, at least for Balkesh. This test will not include Wall or Lift. After, I'll talk about the frames and order them from best to worst. Enjoy!

Test 1:
dC3.7C.Br VS B3.7C.Br (alternating weak launch, ties redone)

C3 Win Rate: 40% (OS: 8, KO: 0, BST: 0)
B3 Win Rate: 60% (OS: 12, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 7

Test 2:
dC3.7C.Br VS B3.7G.Br (alternating weak launch, ties redone)

C3 Win Rate: 45% (OS: 9, KO: 0, BST: 0)
B3 Win Rate: 55% (OS: 11, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 5

Test 3:
dC3.7C.Br VS B3.7B.Br (alternating weak launch, ties redone)

C3 Win Rate: 45% (OS: 9, KO: 0, BST: 0)
B3 Win Rate: 55% (OS: 11, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 12

Test 4:
dC3.7C.Br VS B3.7S.Br (alternating weak launch, ties redone)

C3 Win Rate: 30% (OS: 6, KO: 0, BST: 0)
B3 Win Rate: 70% (OS: 14, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 4

Test 5:
dC3.7C.Br VS B3.7U.Br (alternating weak launch, ties redone)

C3 Win Rate: 40% (OS: 8, KO: 0, BST: 0)
B3 Win Rate: 60% (OS: 12, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 5

Test 6:
dC3.7C.Br VS B3.7F.Br (alternating weak launch, ties redone)

C3 Win Rate: 45% (OS: 9, KO: 0, BST: 0)
B3 Win Rate: 55% (OS: 11, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 4

Test 7:
dC3.7C.Br VS B3.7M.Br (alternating weak launch, ties redone)

C3 Win Rate: 70% (OS: 14, KO: 0, BST: 0)
B3 Win Rate: 30% (OS: 6, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 6

Test 8:
dC3.7C.Br VS B3.7V.Br (alternating weak launch, ties redone)

C3 Win Rate: 50% (OS: 10, KO: 0, BST: 0)
B3 Win Rate: 50% (OS: 10, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 2

Test 9:
dC3.7C.Br VS B3.7.Br (alternating weak launch, ties redone)

C3 Win Rate: 80% (OS: 16, KO: 0, BST: 0)
B3 Win Rate: 20% (OS: 4, KO: 0, BST: 0)
Ties: 5

Cross: Cross was the benchmark frame in this test since dC3 also had the cross frame. To my surprise, it was able to beat dC3 , which proves B3 is better than it and that's really good. Good performance and the benchmark frame.

Glaive: Glaive did slightly worse than Cross, but not so much worse, so its still a good choice

Bump: Bump, while it did have the same win rate as Glaive, it still felt worse and like it got lucky more often. If you do use Bump for the weight, you might also want to use 0 instead of 7.

Star: Star did really well. It basically blew the other frames out of the water, I was pretty shocked. The tests don't show it, but Star really had this in the bag most of the time and at one point, it was 3-12! If you don't have Lift or Wall, I would strongly recomend Star.

Under: Under was kinda underwhelming for me. I had hoped it was going to function like a budget Lift or Wall since its weight is all towards the bottom, but not really. Still did good though.

Flow: Flow seems to be a little bit worse than cross. I may still use it if I need more stamina, but if I want max LAD, probably not. Still good though.

Meteor: Meteor was as bad as I expected it to be. If I wasn't testing all the frames, I wouldn't have even tested it. Its meant for attack, so it makes sense.

Vortex: Vortex, even though better than Meteor, was still bad. It also makes sense that it is bad for LAD because its an attack frame.

No Frame: I could never understand why people didn't use a frame on spin equalizers, apparantly its the smooth surface of the disk that makes it good, but my gosh did it fail. It did worse than meteor by far. I would never suggest not using a frame with these types of combos, exception of coarse being with Et.

Overall, the list went like this:
1st: Star
2nd: Cross, Under
3rd: Glaive, Bump, Flow
4th: Vortex
5th: Meteor
6th: No frame.

View All Faces · Dec. 29, 2018 1:38 AM

Thanks for this bro, I could not find a good frame for B3. This helped a lot.

View All Faces · Dec. 29, 2018 7:07 AM

(Dec. 29, 2018 1:38 AM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote: Thanks for this bro, I could not find a good frame for B3. This helped a lot.

Yeah, Something to note is that 0C and 0B may be better than 7S. My B3.0B.Br was beating my aH.7C.Br, so I may do some tests with it or ask KJ and Laser to test the matchup.

View All Faces · Dec. 31, 2018 8:00 PM

How freely does your Hasbro bearing shaft spin?

View All Faces · Jan. 01, 2019 4:42 AM

I finally got B3 a few weeks ago and got around to testing it tonight. It’s pretty insane.

It’s virtually unburstable. I couldn’t do it with both Br and At on B3 against all sorts of attack combinations (ChoV, nL, bL, gF on X’, X, Hn’, etc). And not only that, I could barely get it to slide any measurable distance on its slope.

Maybe this thing can be beat by Hell Salamander, but it seems way too strong to me against Attack on Drivers like Br and At which are pretty easy to beat when using the TT versions with aB.

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View All Faces · Jan. 01, 2019 5:01 AM

Bloody Longinus 5Glaive Weight vs Balkesh B3 0Glaive Bearing
bL.5G.W: 10 wins (all OS)
B3.0G.Br: 0 wins
bL.5G.W win rate: 100%

Trick here is to maintain contact with Balkesh by sliding shooting bL, since B3 is so much lighter it will lose more spin per hit. Wish I had stuck with this as my 3rd deck combo in Geist Town instead of dH.8'B.Z', 2018 some ragrets

Armor · Jan. 01, 2019 5:06 AM

So correct me if I'm wrong, but B3 is unburstable? Have there been any combos that can burst it?

View All Faces · Jan. 01, 2019 5:34 AM

(Jan. 01, 2019 5:06 AM)Armor Wrote: So correct me if I'm wrong, but B3 is unburstable? Have there been any combos that can burst it?

Yeah, that’s what I’m wondering. If there’s nothing, then it’s problematic.

CheetoBlader · Jan. 01, 2019 5:34 AM

(Jan. 01, 2019 5:34 AM)Kei Wrote:
(Jan. 01, 2019 5:06 AM)Armor Wrote: So correct me if I'm wrong, but B3 is unburstable? Have there been any combos that can burst it?

Yeah, that’s what I’m wondering. If there’s nothing, then it’s problematic.

Xcalius X3 is a good counter

View All Faces · Jan. 01, 2019 7:51 AM

(Jan. 01, 2019 4:42 AM)Kei Wrote: I finally got B3 a few weeks ago and got around to testing it tonight. It’s pretty insane.

It’s virtually unburstable. I couldn’t do it with both Br and At on B3 against all sorts of attack combinations (ChoV, nL, bL, gF on X’, X, Hn’, etc). And not only that, I could barely get it to slide any measurable distance on its slope.

Maybe this thing can be beat by Hell Salamander, but it seems way too strong to me against Attack on Drivers like Br and At which are pretty easy to beat when using the TT versions with aB.

Yeah man, when my nL.U.Jl-S combo was getting SrS3 halfway, it wasnt doing anything to B3. Once I get the wall frame, I feel like It will be very tough for right spin beys to beat considering I beat aH Xt+ with my B3 Br.

(Jan. 01, 2019 5:34 AM)CheetoBlader Wrote:
(Jan. 01, 2019 5:34 AM)Kei Wrote: Yeah, that’s what I’m wondering. If there’s nothing, then it’s problematic.

Xcalius X3 is a good counter

Really, what combos are you using. Maybe you got some sort of mold defect. Ive never seen B3 burst and considering X3, at least for me, is bad against left spin beys, I find that very hard to believe

(Jan. 01, 2019 5:01 AM)Wombat Wrote: Bloody Longinus 5Glaive Weight vs Balkesh B3 0Glaive Bearing
bL.5G.W: 10 wins (all OS)
B3.0G.Br: 0 wins
bL.5G.W win rate: 100%

Trick here is to maintain contact with Balkesh by sliding shooting bL, since B3 is so much lighter it will lose more spin per hit. Wish I had stuck with this as my 3rd deck combo in Geist Town instead of dH.8'B.Z', 2018 some ragrets

What an interesting predicament. Can you test thw bL combo against B3.7S.Br and B3.7S.At?

(Dec. 31, 2018 8:00 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote: How freely does your Hasbro bearing shaft spin?

Around 1 second. Both of them one is a bit more wobbly that the other but that doesn't have a noticable effect on the performance.