I know I have horrible parts, but what's the best combo I could build out of these?
Draciel MS
Driger MS
Gaia Dragoon MS
Jiraya MS (I was dumb enough to sell the best part, the RC, to a friend. Got $40 for it though)
These are pretty much all standard, but what is the best combo I could make?

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I believe your best combo would be for Attack:

AR: Jiraiya Blade
WD: Circle Wide
RC: Flat Core

And since you got quite a bit for your Bearing Core 2, you could probably get another Jiraiya MS all together and make the following Defense combo:

AR: Metal Saucer
WD: Circle Wide
RC: Bearing Core 2

But considering how weak HMS Defense is, you'd probably be safer sticking with the Attacker.

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I believe your best combo would be for Attack:

AR: Jiraiya Blade
WD: Circle Wide
RC: Flat Core

Personally, I would use Circle Heavy with this. Higher spin velocity is more important to take advantage of than movement speed for Jiraiya Blade.

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Sort of like a Purchase Consultation question here:

I need 1 of each HMS, for competitive use and one for collection purposes. Beys under about $25 each would be good!

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I believe your best combo would be for Attack:

AR: Jiraiya Blade
WD: Circle Wide
RC: Flat Core

Personally, I would use Circle Heavy with this. Higher spin velocity is more important to take advantage of than movement speed for Jiraiya Blade.

And this works best in right spin correct? Is it any good in left spin?

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Why is a Dragoon MSUV more rare and harder to find than a driger ms?

What would be a durable And good HMS to start my HMS collection?

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Looking for Gryph Dragooon SA165WSF PM if you know where to find one.
Parts

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Plastics

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Driger V (Hasbro)

MFB

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CW's

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Destructor X2
Pegasus III X2
Pegasus
Fox
Lyra
Striker II
Saggitario II
Aquario
Nemesis
Susanow
Ldrago Absorb
Orion X3
Quetzalcoatl
Virgo
Zurafa
Jupiter
Destroyer
Orso
Cetus
Ice Titan
Kronos
Lynx

MW's

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Earth
Death TT
Phantom TT
Hasbro Phantom X2
Spiral X2
Cyber X2
Hyper
Hasbro Jade
Hasbro Duo
Hasbro Cosmic
Hyper blade Cosmic
Ldrago III
Hasbro Scythe
Bakushin
Hyper blade Flash
Hyper blade Diablo
Ultimate Meteo
Gravity
Hasbro Beat

Tracks

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BD145
145 X3
125
T125
ED145
WD145
TR145
AD145 X2
DF105
LW105
100
90
230 X2
SW145
130
W105
160
CH120
GB145
A230
E230

Tips

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RF
R²F
LRF
RDF
RS
LF
B
SB
WD X3
D
EDS
W²D
MF
MB
JB
SF
WB
GCF
4D bottoms

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BD
FD
FS
XD

Chrome wheels

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Reviser X2
Killerken
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Guardian
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Hades Gate Stadium
Darkhelm FX stadium
Zero G Attack type stadium

Launchers

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Tons of Hasbro Ripcords (Four Left spin 3 Ldrago one regular)
LL2 X2
Zero G compact Launcher

Other

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Beydeck Case
Tons of tools

Hasbro XTS

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Tornado Eagle
Tornado Leone
Electro Tornado Pegasus

Why is a Dragoon MSUV more rare and harder to find than a driger ms?

Because its literally the most useful blade for attack types in the whole system. Driger is good but all it's parts are outclassed

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What would be a durable And good HMS to start my HMS collection?

Well, theres the three, Draciel MS, Driger MS, and Gaia Dragoon MS, that are really cheap. I got all three for $13 total. They do have some semi-useful parts.
Also, Jiraya MS is fairly cheap, and has some good parts.
If you can get Wolborg MS, or Death Gargoyle MS, those would be good buys as well.

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“In the course of twenty crowded years, one parts with many illusions. I did not wish to lose the early ones. Some memories are realities, and are better than anything that can ever happen again.” -Jim Burden (My Ántonia)

Like most HMS, we have an article on it: http://wiki.worldbeyblade.org/index.php/Dranzer_MS

And no, while some of the better HMS could stand up to earlier MFB, any decent MFB now has a huge weight advantage over them, which renders even HMS Zombies ineffective. This is also extremely dangerous for your HMS, as the system was not built to face such heavy opponents, which means they will likely be damaged or broken as a result.

Well after the HMS tournament my attack type combo demolished a great deal of the Zero G blades during free play. It lost a few rounds but for the most part it was pretty dominant.

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Why is a Dragoon MSUV more rare and harder to find than a driger ms?

Because its literally the most useful blade for attack types in the whole system. Driger is good but all it's parts are outclassed

Plus, Dragoon MSUV was released later than Driger MS, so also closer to the end of Bakuten Shoot Beyblade, which means that there were less Dragoon MSUV made, as far as I know.

It also didn't receive a hasbro release and has a tip that wears down a lot over time.

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Why is a Dragoon MSUV more rare and harder to find than a driger ms?

Because its literally the most useful blade for attack types in the whole system. Driger is good but all it's parts are outclassed

Plus, Dragoon MSUV was released later than Driger MS, so also closer to the end of Bakuten Shoot Beyblade, which means that there were less Dragoon MSUV made, as far as I know.

Oh yeah that's true. But even then Dragoon MS are pretty rare too, every time I see those for sale I just keep going because the prices be absurd.

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And this works best in right spin correct? Is it any good in left spin?

It should be fine for either spin direction, maybe even better in left spin.

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Sort of like a Purchase Consultation question here:

I need 1 of each HMS, for competitive use and one for collection purposes. Beys under about $25 each would be good!

Can someone help me with this please?

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I have no idea what you are asking here...
The only beys you can get for under 25 would be the common 3: Driger, Draciel and Gaia Dragoon.

Everything else, expect $35+ at least.

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-Anton Ego/Peter O'Toole (1932-2013)

What is the heaviest hms combo?

What is the heaviest hms combo?

Well I would think a Samurai Changer as is would be the heaviest. You might have to use a heavier weight disk but other then that Samurai changer should be the heaviest.

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AR: Samurai Upper/Jiraiya Blade
CWD: CWD God Ring with 17.6g metal piece
RC: Battle Change Core w/ CWD God Ring

Just having 2 God Rings makes it nearly impossible though haha.

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-Anton Ego/Peter O'Toole (1932-2013)

Is CWD God Ring heavier than CWD Free Crusher though? Would think the latter would still be heavier albeit useless. That site we use for weights isn't always accurate for plastics thanks mostly to the "only to the nearest gram" thing, so I'd guess it's the same for HMS.

Also while I'm sure you're aware of this and it was just a little oversight, battle change core doesn't let you use a second metal part, just the CWD plastic part. Still heavy as heck though, and that's definitely still the most practical heavy combo.

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Whoops didn't mean to type that.

I was trying to make it semi-useful, though I guess you are right on that. All it does is create the insane OHKO combo though if you stick the CWD Free Crusher w/ Battle Change haha.

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-Anton Ego/Peter O'Toole (1932-2013)

I tried that OHKO combo out and it just seemed really dumb tbh. It has a tonne of recoil and not enough power to justify it, especially in a generation where more conventional attack setups are dominant anyway. I guess that regular attackers are out of the reach of most people but then again if you have slash riger and samurai changer you can probably get a dragoon MS at least.


AR: Jiraiya Blade
WD: CWD Defense Ring (17.6g Metal Piece)
RC: Battle Change Core w/ Battle Change Core CWD Part

Is a pretty neat combo with CWD Defense Ring fixing it in attack mode if set up right. Can KO stuff, and is heavy enough to not get entirely wiped out by Attack (usually it's DKO's and luck though). Haven't tested it enough yet though, but it's fun to mess around with.

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You managed to get a lot more HMS than me, so I'll let you be the expert on that one. My funds prevent me from conducting more "out there" tests, I guess.

I might be able to test the combo you mentioned though, I haven't had time to goof around with my HMS recently thanks to work.

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"In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little, yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that is in the discovery and defense of the new. The world is often unkind to new talent, new creations. The new needs friends. Last night, I experienced something new: an extraordinary meal from a singularly unexpected source. To say that both the meal and its maker have challenged my preconceptions about fine cooking is a gross understatement. They have rocked me to my core. In the past, I have made no secret of my disdain for Chef Gusteau's famous motto, "Anyone can cook." But I realize, only now do I truly understand what he meant. Not everyone can become a great artist; but a great artist can come from anywhere."

-Anton Ego/Peter O'Toole (1932-2013)

Sort of like a Purchase Consultation question here:

I need 1 of each HMS, for competitive use and one for collection purposes. Beys under about $25 each would be good!

Can someone help me with this please?

Sometimes you can get a dranzer ms for less than $25, but other than that your best bet is to just try ebay auctions, I've found a couple of HMS-loaded lots lately that I've gotten for cheap.

Important question:
What is the estimated current price for

NIB Dranzer MS Proto Grey,
NIB Driger MS Proto Grey,
NIB Draciel MS Proto Grey,
NIB Gaia Dragoon MS Proto Grey?

Please help me! :-)

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