Challenge: Beat All RF Variants
This is yet another non-standard Customs thread, though I do have a custom that I've tested a lot that I'll be talking about as well.
As of late, Anti-Attackers seem to be becoming more popular, be them Diablo on RF or MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF. Even Kreis seems to have some potential as an anti-attacker!
In this thread, I want us to try to come up with a combo that will beat any custom that uses RF, R2F, or LRF as its tip (and preferably beats attackers on MF as well). Such combos include not only attack combos, but anti-attack as well. The goal is to create a custom tier-list worthy custom that will almost always win if the opponent picks an aggressive rubber tip (either via KO or OS). It's totally okay for the custom to include one of the Rubber Flat variants as long as it has test results backing it up showing that it will defeat other RF users.
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Some of the most important customs to test against include:
Attack
MF-H Flash ____ 105/CH120/D125/S130/W145/GB145 RF/R2F
MF-H VariAres CH120/R145 RF/R2F/LRF
MF-H Blitz ____ 100/CH120 RF/R2F
Anti-Attack
MF-H Diablo ____ BD145 RF/R2F
MF-H Basalt ____ R145RF
While these are the main ones, the goal is to beat ANYTHING with a RF variant, so test whatever you can!
MF-H Basalt Horogium TR145R2F
I have my own custom to toss out there for this challenge that I've been heavily testing the past couple of days that seems to be doing well so far. This custom is very similar to MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF, though it is rather different in practice.
This custom needs to have Horogium's hole lined up over the Spiral Staircase of Death, and TR145 needs to be aligned so that one of the rollers is directly underneath the Staircase (just like the R145 combo). What this does is intentionally makes the custom somewhat unbalanced, giving Basalt potent anti-attack ability.
While TR145 is lighter than R145, its stamina at the end of a battle is unmatched. Where R145 will stop spinning the second it tips over, TR145 will fall over and sort of "bounce" back up, giving the custom several more critical seconds of spin time.
R2F is used over RF because R2F's speed advantage makes up for the weight lost from using TR145 instead of a heavier track. Yes, R2F has worse stamina, though in practice that hasn't been as observable as the fact that you get a lot more KOs with R2F.
It's worth mentioning that I tried MF-H Diablo Kerbecs TR145(RF/R2F/LRF) and I got far worse results than this custom. Diablo has pitiful stamina, and never exhibited the "bouncing" that Basalt did (and thus Diablo was OSed by just about everything).
Here are my test results to back this custom up (note that I do not have any high-tier attacker other than Flash, and that I would love to see this put up against a left-spin VariAres):
Test Results
BB-10 Attack Stadium
Beylauncher LR with Suspension
Standard Procedure
Flash is always in Attack Mode
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MF-H Basalt Horogium TR145R2F vs. MF-H Flash Orion W145MF
Flash launched first on even matches, Basalt on odd
Flash: 3 (1 KO, 2 OS)
Basalt: 17 (15 KO, 2 OS)
Basalt Win %: 85%
In these tests Flash just always ended up outside the stadium. It would hit Basalt and go flying while Basalt just went on its merry way.
MF-H Basalt Horogium TR145R2F vs. MF-H Flash Scorpio S130RF
Flash launched first on even matches, Basalt on odd
Flash: 7 (7 KO)
Basalt: 23 (6 KO, 17 OS)
Basalt Win %: 76.6%
In these battles Basalt withstood a beating long enough to OS Flash, just like any anti-attacker would.
MF-H Basalt Horogium TR145R2F vs. MF-H Diablo Kerbecs BD145R2F
Diablo launched first on even matches, Basalt on odd
Diablo: 10 (9 KO, 1 OS)
Basalt: 20 (7 KO, 13 OS)
Basalt Win %: 66.7%
I'm not a big fan of this custom only beating the most prominent Anti-Attacker only 2/3 of the time, but an advantage is an advantage. With only one exception TR145 gave the custom enough end-of-battle stamina to OS Diablo when neither got KOed, giving Basalt a clear upper hand.
MF-H Basalt Horogium TR145R2F vs. MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF
R145 launched first on even matches, TR145 on odd
R145: 4 (2 KO, 2 OS)
TR145: 26 (4 KO, 22 OS)
Basalt Win %: 86.7%
Ah, the battle of the Basalt Anti-Attackers. With only a few exceptions at the end of testing (not sure what was different to be honest) TR145 gave the custom far more stamina than R145 to the point where this was a cakewalk for TR145 to OS the opponent.
So, what can you come up with? Be sure to include full, standard-procedure test results to back up any customs you want put to the test.
Beyond coming up with customs, it would also be incredibly helpful if other people could do their own testing of these customs to either back up or debunk any testing proposed in this thread. We're looking for customs that work for everybody here, so if you see one custom that doesn't work for you, post test results that say so! Any and all information is welcome!
This is yet another non-standard Customs thread, though I do have a custom that I've tested a lot that I'll be talking about as well.
As of late, Anti-Attackers seem to be becoming more popular, be them Diablo on RF or MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF. Even Kreis seems to have some potential as an anti-attacker!
In this thread, I want us to try to come up with a combo that will beat any custom that uses RF, R2F, or LRF as its tip (and preferably beats attackers on MF as well). Such combos include not only attack combos, but anti-attack as well. The goal is to create a custom tier-list worthy custom that will almost always win if the opponent picks an aggressive rubber tip (either via KO or OS). It's totally okay for the custom to include one of the Rubber Flat variants as long as it has test results backing it up showing that it will defeat other RF users.
___________________
Some of the most important customs to test against include:
Attack
MF-H Flash ____ 105/CH120/D125/S130/W145/GB145 RF/R2F
MF-H VariAres CH120/R145 RF/R2F/LRF
MF-H Blitz ____ 100/CH120 RF/R2F
Anti-Attack
MF-H Diablo ____ BD145 RF/R2F
MF-H Basalt ____ R145RF
While these are the main ones, the goal is to beat ANYTHING with a RF variant, so test whatever you can!
MF-H Basalt Horogium TR145R2F
I have my own custom to toss out there for this challenge that I've been heavily testing the past couple of days that seems to be doing well so far. This custom is very similar to MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF, though it is rather different in practice.
This custom needs to have Horogium's hole lined up over the Spiral Staircase of Death, and TR145 needs to be aligned so that one of the rollers is directly underneath the Staircase (just like the R145 combo). What this does is intentionally makes the custom somewhat unbalanced, giving Basalt potent anti-attack ability.
While TR145 is lighter than R145, its stamina at the end of a battle is unmatched. Where R145 will stop spinning the second it tips over, TR145 will fall over and sort of "bounce" back up, giving the custom several more critical seconds of spin time.
R2F is used over RF because R2F's speed advantage makes up for the weight lost from using TR145 instead of a heavier track. Yes, R2F has worse stamina, though in practice that hasn't been as observable as the fact that you get a lot more KOs with R2F.
It's worth mentioning that I tried MF-H Diablo Kerbecs TR145(RF/R2F/LRF) and I got far worse results than this custom. Diablo has pitiful stamina, and never exhibited the "bouncing" that Basalt did (and thus Diablo was OSed by just about everything).
Here are my test results to back this custom up (note that I do not have any high-tier attacker other than Flash, and that I would love to see this put up against a left-spin VariAres):
Test Results
BB-10 Attack Stadium
Beylauncher LR with Suspension
Standard Procedure
Flash is always in Attack Mode
_______________________________
MF-H Basalt Horogium TR145R2F vs. MF-H Flash Orion W145MF
Flash launched first on even matches, Basalt on odd
Spoiler (Click to View)
Basalt: 17 (15 KO, 2 OS)
Basalt Win %: 85%
In these tests Flash just always ended up outside the stadium. It would hit Basalt and go flying while Basalt just went on its merry way.
MF-H Basalt Horogium TR145R2F vs. MF-H Flash Scorpio S130RF
Flash launched first on even matches, Basalt on odd
Spoiler (Click to View)
Basalt: 23 (6 KO, 17 OS)
Basalt Win %: 76.6%
In these battles Basalt withstood a beating long enough to OS Flash, just like any anti-attacker would.
MF-H Basalt Horogium TR145R2F vs. MF-H Diablo Kerbecs BD145R2F
Diablo launched first on even matches, Basalt on odd
Spoiler (Click to View)
Basalt: 20 (7 KO, 13 OS)
Basalt Win %: 66.7%
I'm not a big fan of this custom only beating the most prominent Anti-Attacker only 2/3 of the time, but an advantage is an advantage. With only one exception TR145 gave the custom enough end-of-battle stamina to OS Diablo when neither got KOed, giving Basalt a clear upper hand.
MF-H Basalt Horogium TR145R2F vs. MF-H Basalt Horogium R145RF
R145 launched first on even matches, TR145 on odd
Spoiler (Click to View)
TR145: 26 (4 KO, 22 OS)
Basalt Win %: 86.7%
Ah, the battle of the Basalt Anti-Attackers. With only a few exceptions at the end of testing (not sure what was different to be honest) TR145 gave the custom far more stamina than R145 to the point where this was a cakewalk for TR145 to OS the opponent.
So, what can you come up with? Be sure to include full, standard-procedure test results to back up any customs you want put to the test.
Beyond coming up with customs, it would also be incredibly helpful if other people could do their own testing of these customs to either back up or debunk any testing proposed in this thread. We're looking for customs that work for everybody here, so if you see one custom that doesn't work for you, post test results that say so! Any and all information is welcome!
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