ok ty for the help
Beyblade Random Thoughts
So, I've been thinking(although people have already discussed this in the past). We got Cosmo, Flare, Tact, and Naked. These bases, although not given new chips, were, for the most part, said to best fit as Cosmo Ragnaruk, Flare Zeus, and Tact Salamander. I am unsure about Naked though. I would think Bahamut, but that's already taken, and Chronos, but Naked is left spin. Does anyone have any idea what burst bey would best fit Naked?
(Jan. 19, 2020 7:51 PM)Armor Wrote: So, I've been thinking(although people have already discussed this in the past). We got Cosmo, Flare, Tact, and Naked. These bases, although not given new chips, were, for the most part, said to best fit as Cosmo Ragnaruk, Flare Zeus, and Tact Salamander. I am unsure about Naked though. I would think Bahamut, but that's already taken, and Chronos, but Naked is left spin. Does anyone have any idea what burst bey would best fit Naked?
Maybe a TT Hydrax
(Jan. 19, 2020 7:54 PM)lilphilyb Wrote:(Jan. 19, 2020 7:51 PM)Armor Wrote: So, I've been thinking(although people have already discussed this in the past). We got Cosmo, Flare, Tact, and Naked. These bases, although not given new chips, were, for the most part, said to best fit as Cosmo Ragnaruk, Flare Zeus, and Tact Salamander. I am unsure about Naked though. I would think Bahamut, but that's already taken, and Chronos, but Naked is left spin. Does anyone have any idea what burst bey would best fit Naked?
Maybe a TT Hydrax
Sorry, I should have specified. Which premade bey would best fit Naked?(any bey from past burst seasons)
(Jan. 19, 2020 7:51 PM)Armor Wrote: So, I've been thinking(although people have already discussed this in the past). We got Cosmo, Flare, Tact, and Naked. These bases, although not given new chips, were, for the most part, said to best fit as Cosmo Ragnaruk, Flare Zeus, and Tact Salamander. I am unsure about Naked though. I would think Bahamut, but that's already taken, and Chronos, but Naked is left spin. Does anyone have any idea what burst bey would best fit Naked?It really fits Bahamut better than Dread did in my opinion.
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Hey I’ve been practicing and put needle-s on jourmantorn, and its tighter than anything I’ve ever seen. It was using the 5 disc and lift frame, but is that normal for him? Btw it’s the silver-x hasbro version
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(Jan. 19, 2020 8:50 PM)DaGoldenPenguin Wrote: Hey I’ve been practicing and put needle-s on jourmantorn, and its tighter than anything I’ve ever seen. It was using the 5 disc and lift frame, but is that normal for him? Btw it’s the silver-x hasbro version
Very. Jormuntor J2/J4 (They’re identical) is very tight, but you can’t use the layer in Burst Classic as it is banned.
(Jan. 19, 2020 9:06 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:(Jan. 19, 2020 8:50 PM)DaGoldenPenguin Wrote: Hey I’ve been practicing and put needle-s on jourmantorn, and its tighter than anything I’ve ever seen. It was using the 5 disc and lift frame, but is that normal for him? Btw it’s the silver-x hasbro version
Very. Jormuntor J2/J4 (They’re identical) is very tight, but you can’t use the layer in Burst Classic as it is banned.
In fact, it's banned specifically for this incredible burst resistance.
(Jan. 19, 2020 9:06 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:(Jan. 19, 2020 8:50 PM)DaGoldenPenguin Wrote: Hey I’ve been practicing and put needle-s on jourmantorn, and its tighter than anything I’ve ever seen. It was using the 5 disc and lift frame, but is that normal for him? Btw it’s the silver-x hasbro version
Very. Jormuntor J2/J4 (They’re identical) is very tight, but you can’t use the layer in Burst Classic as it is banned.
Why isn’t needle-s used more? As far as I’m concerned, it’s one of the best attack tips
(Jan. 19, 2020 9:14 PM)DaGoldenPenguin Wrote: Why isn’t needle-s used more? As far as I’m concerned, it’s one of the best attack tips
Needle-S has terrible Stamina and can't maintain a good offensive pattern similarly to other plastic Attack drivers (outside of a Slingshock stadium, but that's not tournament legal and still not very good). It's fast, sure, but fast =/= strong.
It's terribly outclassed for raw Attack where rubber drivers like Xtreme and Jolt-S are king due to their strong attack patterns. It's little good as a tornado staller due to its low Stamina compared to Spiral (despite comparable speeds) and that's arguably outclassed by Zephyr as well from Hasbro's line, so it's overall rather bad and a pretty low pick on the totem pole.
SlingShock stadiums aren’t legal? Since when?
They're just stadiums. TT stadiums are carp, especially since most of my Beyblades don’t even fit in the holes
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(Jan. 19, 2020 11:04 PM)I’m #Fafnir Wrote:Well, that actually is a pretty good trap if you ask me. Look at post above(Jan. 19, 2020 11:03 PM)DaGoldenPenguin Wrote: They’re just stadiums. TTS stadiums are carp
Actually, when beyblades are launched into slingshock stadiums, they typically get stuck in the rails and lose stamina fast. That doesn't happen in a TT stadium.
Also, why is it that my leopard works better as a defense type than an attack type
(Jan. 19, 2020 11:05 PM)DaGoldenPenguin Wrote:(Jan. 19, 2020 11:04 PM)I’m #Fafnir Wrote: Actually, when beyblades are launched into slingshock stadiums, they typically get stuck in the rails and lose stamina fast. That doesn't happen in a TT stadium.Well, that actually is a pretty good trap if you ask me. Look at post above
Also, why is it that my leopard works better as a defense type than an attack type
All I'm saying is, there's a reason Slingshock stadiums aren't used in tournaments. If they were, you wouldn't see attack beyblades at all, as they get stuck on the rails and lose stamina(Instant win for stamina beyblades.)
It’s not that they don’t help me, it’s that they do help me
I don’t like things easy, and my beys are either to fast or wide to go into the traps, unless sideways
I don’t like things easy, and my beys are either to fast or wide to go into the traps, unless sideways
(Jan. 19, 2020 11:54 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:Yeah, it’s the frustration that comes with losing to the rails that get most people to rage, but I see it as a challenge. And they are official stadiums. It’s like how ripfires are banned when motorized TT tips are allowed(Jan. 19, 2020 11:53 PM)DaGoldenPenguin Wrote: It’s not that they don’t help me, it’s that they do help me
I don’t like things easy, and my beys are either to fast or wide to go into the traps, unless sideways
Well, slingshock stadiums are more of a fun thing than a competitive thing.
(Jan. 19, 2020 11:57 PM)DaGoldenPenguin Wrote:(Jan. 19, 2020 11:54 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Well, slingshock stadiums are more of a fun thing than a competitive thing.Yeah, it’s the frustration that comes with losing to the rails that get most people to rage, but I see it as a challenge. And they are official stadiums. It’s like how ripfires are banned when motorized TT tips are allowed
It’s not a challenge, but an annoyance. It’s an official stadium but really not a competitive one at all. Plus, ripfires don’t need to be unbanned as they all they do is flash lights. Nobody ever uses them, so why unban? I know you hate TT, but that doesn’t mean you should try and show how Hasbro is better.
I don’t hate TT. I hate how hasbro is under appreciated
TT is fine. But I vowed never to buy a TT product that wasn’t her in America. That includes online
I understand that hasbro isn’t better. But people don’t use ripfires because they’re banned. If RC’s and ripfires were unbanned, we could get a lot more for our weight combos
TT is fine. But I vowed never to buy a TT product that wasn’t her in America. That includes online
I understand that hasbro isn’t better. But people don’t use ripfires because they’re banned. If RC’s and ripfires were unbanned, we could get a lot more for our weight combos
(Jan. 20, 2020 12:51 AM)DaGoldenPenguin Wrote: I don’t hate TT. I hate how hasbro is under appreciatedThat’s a strange goal, I mean why do that? You’re not gonna get better if you don’t buy at least some TT beys.
TT is fine. But I vowed never to buy a TT product that wasn’t her in America. That includes online
I understand that hasbro isn’t better. But people don’t use ripfires because they’re banned. If RC’s and ripfires were unbanned, we could get a lot more for our weight combos
(Jan. 20, 2020 12:51 AM)DaGoldenPenguin Wrote: I don’t hate TT. I hate how hasbro is under appreciated
TT is fine. But I vowed never to buy a TT product that wasn’t her in America. That includes online
I understand that hasbro isn’t better. But people don’t use ripfires because they’re banned. If RC’s and ripfires were unbanned, we could get a lot more for our weight combos
Toy Tokyo in NYC sells TT beys in the store according to people in the thread and if they don't show them online doesn't mean they don't have them, Target has the Morrigna M4 dual pack in store but last I searched online it wasn't on their site.
(Jan. 19, 2020 11:03 PM)DaGoldenPenguin Wrote: They're just stadiums. TT stadiums are carp, especially since most of my Beyblades don’t even fit in the holes
To extrapolate on what everyone else has said further, Hasbro stadiums tend to be significantly disadvantageous towards Attack types in some way. This could be through the Slingshock rail system being too big of a drain on Stamina and making Attack types useless once they no longer have enough power to make it up the rails, or the general shape of the stadium itself. Hasbro's plethora of angular shapes for regular stadiums really do make Attack types far harder to use and provide awkward corners for beys to get caught in, and the bumps in the middle that Hasbro likes to introduce interferes with attack patterns as well as reducing the damage Defense and Stamina types can deal to each other. Though they're fine for casual play, they do not work well in a competitive environment because they favor some strategies over others.
In the basic TT standard type stadium its round bowl shape allows any driver to perform the same without any weird corners to get caught in or bumps messing with the battle, with a tornado ridge aiding mobile drivers in control. The pockets were perfectly sized for the original basic/dual layer beys and some God beys as well, and though they're too small nowadays they are still wide enough to be fair without giving Attack types too big of an advantage. Though I do admit I would like a new type of stadium with deeper pockets for their newer beys, the overall design of the stadium is excellent. Though boring and basic, nothing else is nearly as well rounded for each type of strategy.
Really, that's all it boils down to: The TT standard stadium is just the most fair stadium around and favors no strategies over the others. That's exactly what tournament play is about, as it makes it far more about skill, from launching to part selection, and far less about playing around each stadium's strengths and weaknesses or all the strange shapes Hasbro releases.
(Jan. 19, 2020 11:05 PM)DaGoldenPenguin Wrote: Also, why is it that my leopard works better as a defense type than an attack type
Most Attack types need shapes that can produce heavy recoil to be effective, with a few exceptions like Twin Nemesis' Upper Attack slopes. Angular shapes with enough relief to hinder self-recoil (or some manner of coping with its own recoil, such as Judgement's rubber burst stopper) work best for this, but Vice Leopard is basically a small toothy circle. The contact points it has are too small and far too close together to provide any offensive recoil to damage opponents with, so its attack power is incredibly low.
Though far from optimal its fairly rounded shape does give it some decent Defense, though its Stamina is atrocious and its spikey edges limit its usefulness. It's enough to be fair-to-midland for Defense, though held down terribly with its terrible Stamina. Nothing to write home about or consider for anything remotely competitive unless you really need anti-Attack and have no other options to speak of.