BD145CS stops low attackers. So does TH170. And 230.

The lower you put the MW, the more it will suffer from low attack.

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Unless you're talking about 4D attackers which will probably rip through BD145CS/MB..

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BD145 combos will do it infinitely better than T125, regardless.

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Meh, I give up on that duo combo...

I came up with a new one: Duo (A-mode) Horogium 230MS

The point of this bey it since duo is unbalanced(A-mode of course), if you place it with a tall track, and the worst balance tip, it may smash into the other bey and possibly stop its spin. Sounds like a stupid hypothesis, but I might be going somewhere.

Duo Horogium 230MS VS MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS/RS

Meh, I give up on that duo combo...

I came up with a new one: Duo (A-mode) Horogium 230MS

The point of this bey it since duo is unbalanced(A-mode of course), if you place it with a tall track, and the worst balance tip, it may smash into the other bey and possibly stop its spin. Sounds like a stupid hypothesis, but I might be going somewhere.

Duo Horogium 230MS VS MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS/RS

THat sounds like a HORRIBLE IDEA but it might ever so slightly work

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C'mon, you use a hammer to SMASH down nails/whatever you hate, and it does successfully. Take that into beyblade. If your beyblade SMASHES down into the other bey, the other bey will either get forced into the ground by its metal wheel, or have so much friction with the stadium it loses its spin, resulting in an os. It may also smash on the side, causing a KO. Think of it: Would you rather push out other beyblades, or smash them down into the ground to stop their spin? I think smashing them into the ground may be more effective. This is what every part has to do with the combo:

Tempo - Unbalanced clear wheel
Duo Attack Mode - Unbalanced metal wheel so bey wobbles down more aggressively
230 - Tallest track to SMASH into the other bey to KO/reduce spin
MS - WORST BALANCE EVER for smashing into the other bey.

Force Smash has never worked in MFB, and people have tried what they called "Hammer Smash" or something like that to no success. It's incredibly difficult to make heavy MFB change their axis of rotation by using another Beyblade.

You've got a point, but you know how unbalanced Duo is? It MIGHT have a chance.

It's not only about Duo, but also about the other Beyblade. For general spinning objects, it's difficult to shift the axis of rotation. Plastics were light so it could be done, but with MFB it's too difficult to be effective and consistent.

I see what you're saying. It'd probably be useful against foes with metal wheels 35g and under.

How about MF Death (A) Kerbecs 90RF?

I noticed the waves on top of death in attack mode may be useful for upper smash.
Why each part is useful:
MF: Reduces recoil
Kerbecs: Heaviest CW
Death: The waves on top provide the attack.
90: A low track so Death can get under other wheels. Didn't pick 85 because of more scrapes.
RF: Quick movement.

Please test against:
MF-H Basalt Horogium BD145CS
MF-F Phantom Cancer AD145WD
MF-H Earth Bull GB145CS
MF-H Basalt Horogium 230CS

I've tested Death in Attack mode on 90 and 85 quite thoroughly, actually, and it did not do very well at all against Basalt BD145, even with R2F. I believe it was about 3 out of 17 battles.

It did slightly better against TH170 variants, but still nothing worth considering.

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Played around with Duo in attack mode on rubber tips. Its imbalance messes with RF's movement, and RSF doesn't move nicely on it either, even with a soft one.

Basalt is still the heaviest beyblade out for a few days, and these sorts of combo's are it's ground, at least until Diablo is released.

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can anyone do

MF-H Diablo/Duo/Death/Basalt Kerebecs/Aquario/Cancer BD145 CS against each other and all top tier attack types?

basically,

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MF-H Diablo/Duo/Death/Basalt Kerebecs/Aquario/Cancer BD145 CS vs MF-H Diablo/Duo/Death/Basalt Kerbecs/Aquario BD145 CS

MF-H Diablo/Duo/Death/Basalt Kerebecs/Aquario/Cancer BD145 CS vs MF VariAres/Blitz/Diablo 85/CH120/S130/BD145 RF/R2F

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Could someone test me Variares TH170RF against top tier defense combos?

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You need to explain why you think that would be a good idea.

Then someone who knows what common sense is can explain why you're wrong.

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Hey I wanted to request a nearly mirrored battle between
MF-L Phantom Gil GB145CS vs MF-L Phantom Orion GB145CS
I currently have only one Phantom Orion so I can't compare both.

The Idea behind Gill is because has a unbalanced base but still is mirrored to the other side. Leaving to heavy parts and to light parts. If you place it on Phantom it alignes with Orion quit well because the thickest part of orion is complimented with the thinnest part of Gill and the that goes the other way around to. I think that it could highten the stamina of Phantom orion. And still have a great defense aswell. But because bull is so balanced it will mean that it will leave areas because phantom got that thickness and slimness.

I hope you consider looking at it.

Can anyone who has two TH170's do this for me:

Basalt Bull TH170D vs Phantom Bull TH170D

Thanks

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Both of those combos are already proven to have great stamina but, they are not on the top teir list.

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[quote='stevebak' pid='894011' dateline='1328363077']
Hey I wanted to request a nearly mirrored battle between
MF-L Phantom Gil GB145CS vs MF-L Phantom Orion GB145CS
I currently have only one Phantom Orion so I can't compare both.

The Idea behind Gill is because has a unbalanced base but still is mirrored to the other side. Leaving to heavy parts and to light parts. If you place it on Phantom it alignes with Orion quit well because the thickest part of orion is complimented with the thinnest part of Gill and the that goes the other way around to. I think that it could highten the stamina of Phantom orion. And still have a great defense aswell. But because bull is so balanced it will mean that it will leave areas because phantom got that thickness and slimness.

I hope you consider looking at it.


Hmmm, I think I will look into your theory and test it but great idea, Gil COULD be used as a destabilizer.

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Yo, I think Ultra would know that. Also destabilizers aren't a thing.

Afraid I lack two TH170's, but Phantom *should* win pretty easily.

stevebak: CS is not good for stamina testing, as there are too many variables involving type and wear.

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Could you please try "Duo__(Preferably Leone or Aquario mainly because I like Leone) Change Height 120 HF/S"
If you would like a hopeful concept, i'm hoping it will act like the now overrated Virgo CH120RF, HF/S keeps a relatively high speed because of its width but will have more stamina.

Also, because of Duo's rounded profile i'm assuming it will act a lot like Virgo, Change Height will allow it to attack BD145 and the sorts but still stay low-ish.

You can also adjust it so the metal wheel is taking the contact because of Duo, this is what i'm hoping anyway. Cheers. Note: I don't mind which way you shoot it, just test it as a Balance combo and get back to me, thankyou.

Yo, I think Ultra would know that. Also destabilizers aren't a thing.

Afraid I lack two TH170's, but Phantom *should* win pretty easily.

stevebak: CS is not good for stamina testing, as there are too many variables involving type and wear.

Oh oki, i get it. CS is kind of a random Booster, you never know what nature your CS is going to until you let it rip for the first time, so it can't be fair for those who don't have luck with it.
But yeah my am was the test the balance on of Gil to Bull and aquario (if i missed a top part feel free to correct me). I know that the likes of diablo and all are far more superior on battle situations. So yeah this combo had a lots of succes with because the super stamina of phantom and GB145 with its balls outside just uplifted the flywheel and gil for balance. If you have suggestion for a part that van hold his own defense wise and less random I would greatfull. I will try to see if RSF can substitute it for a part. But i pretty mutch think its stamina and balance will receive a hard blow.

Also they wear differently with use, so yeah.

GB145 has actually got a bad weight distribution for stamina, ovals don't perform well, I'm afraid, it's a common error, so ad145 is generally the best bet, though it's defensive abilities leave a lot to be desired and TH170 may be a better choice defensively sooooo...

And cancer is the best cw for phantom we've found. I still think gill will imbalance it as a whole, but it's quite hard to compare cw's.

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Can someone do some testing with MF-H Diablo Nemesis H145R2F?

I bring this up because at Valen-Beys Day tournament, EpicLibra7, who placed 2nd, used only this combo. It KO'd MF-H Death Kerbecs BD145CS, MF-H Duo Aquario AD145WD, MF-H Diablo Kerbecs BD145CS/MB, and MF-H Phantom Orion B : D several times.

In my opinion, I think it seriously needs to be tested. Even Dark_Mousy said this combo should be tested for the Metagame. Could someone please test this?

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Thanks for the compliment but you should thank me and dark. we are the creators of the monster

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Let's not get too close to the ownership/nickname issues we had in the past, now. Warnings for that get handed out quite zealously.

Anyway, H145 is pretty underrated in general, I'd like to see the testing too, but right now I don't have time to do any of my own, sorry.

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