This might have been posted before, but here is a revelation:

B : D is NOT responsible for Phantom Orion's Stamina. How did it spin for 7+ mins may you ask? 3 WORDS: Phantom Metal Wheel

So, you're saying that using an RF on a Phantom Metal Wheel should generate 7+ mins solo spin?

I don't mean to be rude, but seriously, your 'revelation' only reveals your lack of information. Do read around.

He is probably suggesting as it does increase the Stamina, which it does.

But for sure, I would have to say that Phantom itself is a great equalizing wheel, and hell if Destabilizing was still alive it'd be great.

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1. Equalizing wheel? It would be facing left-spin beys if it were to equalize, and they are predominantly attackers so it makes no difference if you're right or wrong.
2. I don't know how thin it is, but I'll just assume it would be about as effective as using Burn for a destabilizer.

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1. That is what I meant, clearly.

2. It'd be not as thing as Burn, no way, maybe more like Earth. It'd be quite effective..

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All tournament-legal stadia are also legal for testing purposes. Attack-type is just the greatest preferred.

That's not what the rules said when I read them and everyone else has made contrary claims when it was brought up in aaqgaa.

Standard testing procedure calls for a BB-10 attack stadium.

http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Posting-Test-Results

This doesn't say that use of the triple-type or stamina stadium is illegal. However, what good does it do you to test in a stadium you will never battle in? The stamina stadium is very different from the attack stadium, and I personally would not use results from the stamina stadium for comparison to results in the attack stadium.

As I said, it's a matter of preference - and for a good reason. However, it is not illegal, as you also just indicated. Kai-V has stated the same thing - and I'm not championing the use of the inferior stadia, just saying they CAN be used for testing, just not under the Standard Procedure format.

I'd never personally post results from anything but a BB-10, but being clear with people is just as important. If you happen to have a Triple-Battle or Stamina but not a BB-10, and you want to post results, you can post them - they will be taken in a different light, and you would need to mention it, but they are still worth looking at. With a grain of salt, but regardless.

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just got my phantom orion today and its A4 mode.
i have done few solo spin tests and it spin around 7 mins
pretty close to the official ad clam

phantom orion B : D solo spin test 6mins 50sec

phantom orion B : D solo spin test 7mins

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Kind of late to the party, but...
Phantom arrived today, here are my B : D's spin tests, with an uncustomized Phantom Orion.
Materials- Attack Stadium, Three Segment Launcher Grip, BeyLauncher R, Launcher Rubbers.
Test 1: 6:52.37
Test 2: 6:47.06
Test 3: 6:20.24
Test 4: 5:43.66
Test 5: 6:21.45
Avg: 6:24.96
I can honestly say I was pleased. My B : D is an A2.

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Kind of late to the party, but...
Phantom arrived today, here are my B : D's spin tests, with an uncustomized Phantom Orion.
Materials- Attack Stadium, Three Segment Launcher Grip, BeyLauncher R, Launcher Rubbers.
Test 1: 6:52.37
Test 2: 6:47.06
Test 3: 6:20.24
Test 4: 5:43.66
Test 5: 6:21.45
Avg: 6:24.96
I can honestly say I was pleased. My B : D is an A2.

You aren't late to the party at all. It will take at least 30 data points for the A4 mold, and 30 data points of other molds in order to start a statistical analysis - ideally more of both. So I very much appreciate your contribution, and hope that other people continue to contribute as well! Thank you! And thank you to MrN and minglok as well!

Am I the only one who's annoyed by the fact that there's more solo spin's than actual testing going on?

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Meh, if it gives people an idea how well each mold does then I'm not opposed though maybe a B:D Mold variations thread should be made instead..
So:
MF-H Earth Bull B:D vs. MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS.

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L-Drago Destroy B : D VS Phantom Horogium AD145EWD.
Please be tested

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The main thing I would like tested is all the L Drago wheels on B against top tier stamina combos since those are the ones which are most likely to be good zombies since Gravity and Vari Ares although able to spin in left are attack wheels and most likely not suitable for spin stealers(Notice I said this and not zombies since they're not the same thing).

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The main thing I would like tested is all the L Drago wheels on B:D against top tier stamina combos since those are the ones which are most likely to be good zombies since Gravity and Vari Ares although able to spin in left are attack wheels and most likely not suitable for spin stealers(Notice I said this and not zombies since they're not the same thing).

I did some unofficial testing between MF Meteo L-Drago B:D against Phantom Orion AD145WD and Phantom Orion was consistently winning by split seconds (like half to a whole second outspins)... if anyone is interested, I can do some actual testing.
EDIT: I can also test B:D on LLD

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Meh, if it gives people an idea how well each mold does then I'm not opposed though maybe a B Mold variations thread should be made instead..
So:
MF-H Earth Bull B vs. MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS.

MF-H Earth Bull B vs. MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS

Earth Bull 1OS

Basalt Kerbecs 19OS

MF-H Basalt Kerbecs BD145CS Win percentage 95%

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The main thing I would like tested is all the L Drago wheels on B against top tier stamina combos since those are the ones which are most likely to be good zombies since Gravity and Vari Ares although able to spin in left are attack wheels and most likely not suitable for spin stealers(Notice I said this and not zombies since they're not the same thing).

I did some unofficial testing between MF Meteo L-Drago B against Phantom Orion AD145WD and Phantom Orion was consistently winning by split seconds (like half to a whole second outspins)... if anyone is interested, I can do some actual testing.
EDIT: I can also test B on LLD

If you could do some proper testing i'd appreciate it very much.

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MF Meteo L-Drago B:D vs Phantom Orion (Stamina Mode) AD145WD

MF Meteo L-Drago Results
Wins: 6 (All KOs)
Win Percentage: 30%

Phantom Orion Results
Wins: 14 (4 OS, 10 KOs)
Win Percentage: 70%

2 Draws redone.

I was incredibly shocked by all of the knockouts going on. They were usually happening when there was excessive metal upon metal contact. When Meteo L-Drago's CW came into contact, it was not for very long, not giving it enough contact to effectively equalize spin or create life after death.

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It is really because of Meteo's rubber..

I see it is obvious now how Phantom is getting the job done, tell me, was this test in Attack Mode?

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MF Meteo L-Drago B:D vs Phantom Orion AD145WD

MF Meteo L-Drago Results
Wins: 6 (All KOs)
Win Percentage: 30%

Phantom Orion Results
Wins: 14 (4 OS, 10 KOs)
Win Percentage: 70%

2 Draws redone.

I was incredibly shocked by all of the knockouts going on. They were usually happening when there was excessive metal upon metal contact. When Meteo L-Drago's CW came into contact, it was not for very long, not giving it enough contact to effectively equalize spin or create life after death.

Nice results. I guess this means that MLD B:D is a so-so spin-stealer, as was expected. Good to know that it can get some KO's too. If anyone else who has MLD and Phantom could provide some MF MLD B:D tests, I'd like to see more.

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I see it is obvious now how Phantom is getting the job done, tell me, was this test in Attack Mode?

Actually, it was in Stamina mode. I should go and edit that.

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Nice results, im thinking of testing B soon

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Just to confirm CRUelty's testings:

MF Meteo L-Drago B:D vs Phantom Orion (Stamina Mode) AD145WD
Phantom Orion Results: Wins: 16 ( 10OS, 6 KOs) - Win Percentage: 70%
MF Meteo L-Drago Results: Wins: 4 (ALL KOs, 2 OS) - Win Percentage: 30%

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will try pairing B with LDD when I have the time...

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Has anyone thought about
MFH LDD B D (Upper Mode)
My theory is that it should be good with a barrage of upper attacks, specificall geared toward 170+

Thats a really good thought there, but I've always found it erratic against Top-Tier Defense Types.

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Something is something. If we could kill the recoil....