I'm just curious, but why hasn't B3 been banned yet? Or even trial banned, for that matter? It has a solid place in the meta, with no viable counters to speak of. Nothing outspins it (in either left or right spin), its impossible to burst when paired with Hasbro Bearing (Zwei, offensive wizard, lord on X'), and the small size plus circular shape of the layer makes it extremely risky to try to knock out of the stadium. Why hasn't this thing been banned yet, if it has no consistent counters? Hell, why hasn't Hasbro Bearing been banned, for that matter? I get that the WBO tries to not jump the gun on bans, and tries to ban as few parts as possible, but I mean come on! This thing is from the God era and it's still topping tournaments!
[Answered] Balkesh B3 and the Meta
(Oct. 14, 2019 12:13 AM)BladerGem Wrote: I'm just curious, but why hasn't B3 been banned yet? Or even trial banned, for that matter? It has a solid place in the meta, with no viable counters to speak of. Nothing outspins it (in either left or right spin), its impossible to burst when paired with Hasbro Bearing (Zwei, offensive wizard, lord on X'), and the small size plus circular shape of the layer makes it extremely risky to try to knock out of the stadium. Why hasn't this thing been banned yet, if it has no consistent counters? Hell, why hasn't Hasbro Bearing been banned, for that matter? I get that the WBO tries to not jump the gun on bans, and tries to ban as few parts as possible, but I mean come on! This thing is from the God era and it's still topping tournaments!
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(Oct. 14, 2019 12:13 AM)BladerGem Wrote: I'm just curious, but why hasn't B3 been banned yet? Or even trial banned, for that matter? It has a solid place in the meta, with no viable counters to speak of. Nothing outspins it (in either left or right spin), its impossible to burst when paired with Hasbro Bearing (Zwei, offensive wizard, lord on X'), and the small size plus circular shape of the layer makes it extremely risky to try to knock out of the stadium. Why hasn't this thing been banned yet, if it has no consistent counters? Hell, why hasn't Hasbro Bearing been banned, for that matter? I get that the WBO tries to not jump the gun on bans, and tries to ban as few parts as possible, but I mean come on! This thing is from the God era and it's still topping tournaments!
I'm pretty sure some combos can out spin it. Sure, it doesn't really burst to any combo, but neither does Lord. I'm pretty sure Left-Spin Lord Spriggan 00 Wall Bearing could outspin a Balkesh on the same combo. I don't have a spare bearing, so could someone do some testing?
also 00proof xtend+ attack draws consistently plus a skilled blader can ko with ease on x' qc' or jl'
Also, Hasbro's Balkesh can be consistently beaten by Hell Salamander. I think most people only use Balkesh to counter attack types, because it is just hard to knockout and Burst
Yo, m8. I'm sorry to be mean, but you have no concept of the meta if you think B3 or Br should be banned. B3, even in a Hasbro meta, has counters. SrS3 can outspin it, and not only that, TT has hS and LS which are both meta relevent. Not only that, but Balkesh is like 13 grams maximum and and even with 00W.Br, it can get knocked out by both Judgement and Zwei, and it can be outspin by Zwei as well. Heck, even bL can outspin it. Not only that, but Br needs the wall, lift or turn frame to be good, as apposed to Xt+ that's just good. Hasbro is struggling in this meta and any bans would make them even more useless. If B3 is such a collosal threat, then what about LS, as hard to burst and pretty impossible to OS same spin.
(Oct. 14, 2019 12:33 AM)bladekid Wrote: Yo, m8. I'm sorry to be mean, but you have no concept of the meta if you think B3 or Br should be banned. B3, even in a Hasbro meta, has counters. SrS3 can outspin it, and not only that, TT has hS and LS which are both meta relevent. Not only that, but Balkesh is like 13 grams maximum and and even with 00W.Br, it can get knocked out by both Judgement and Zwei, and it can be outspin by Zwei as well. Heck, even bL can outspin it. Not only that, but Br needs the wall, lift or turn frame to be good, as apposed to Xt+ that's just good. Hasbro is struggling in this meta and any bans would make them even more useless. If B3 is such a collosal threat, then what about LS, as hard to burst and pretty impossible to OS same spin.
agreed plus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Uyy0pt9...KV&index=5
timestamp 4:02
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(Oct. 14, 2019 12:13 AM)BladerGem Wrote: I'm just curious, but why hasn't B3 been banned yet? Or even trial banned, for that matter? It has a solid place in the meta, with no viable counters to speak of. Nothing outspins it (in either left or right spin), its impossible to burst when paired with Hasbro Bearing (Zwei, offensive wizard, lord on X'), and the small size plus circular shape of the layer makes it extremely risky to try to knock out of the stadium. Why hasn't this thing been banned yet, if it has no consistent counters? Hell, why hasn't Hasbro Bearing been banned, for that matter? I get that the WBO tries to not jump the gun on bans, and tries to ban as few parts as possible, but I mean come on! This thing is from the God era and it's still topping tournaments!Idk if you read my post above. But do, it will help you understand how absolutely wrong you are.
(Oct. 14, 2019 12:40 AM)Ravinchen Wrote:Yeah, exactly.(Oct. 14, 2019 12:33 AM)bladekid Wrote: Yo, m8. I'm sorry to be mean, but you have no concept of the meta if you think B3 or Br should be banned. B3, even in a Hasbro meta, has counters. SrS3 can outspin it, and not only that, TT has hS and LS which are both meta relevent. Not only that, but Balkesh is like 13 grams maximum and and even with 00W.Br, it can get knocked out by both Judgement and Zwei, and it can be outspin by Zwei as well. Heck, even bL can outspin it. Not only that, but Br needs the wall, lift or turn frame to be good, as apposed to Xt+ that's just good. Hasbro is struggling in this meta and any bans would make them even more useless. If B3 is such a collosal threat, then what about LS, as hard to burst and pretty impossible to OS same spin.
agreed plus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Uyy0pt9...KV&index=5
timestamp 4:02
the thing weighs nothing
Balkesh B3/Hasbro Bearing is still competitive, but it isn't broken anymore because of TAKARA-TOMY's new releases this year. And I say this as the person who was sort of leading the charge in pushing to ban one of the two things.
Left-spin Lord combos can deal with it consistently, and Judgment/Zwei can do well against it too depending on the combos and user skill.
Left-spin Lord combos can deal with it consistently, and Judgment/Zwei can do well against it too depending on the combos and user skill.
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(Oct. 14, 2019 12:18 AM)Ravinchen Wrote:(Oct. 14, 2019 12:13 AM)BladerGem Wrote: I'm just curious, but why hasn't B3 been banned yet? Or even trial banned, for that matter? It has a solid place in the meta, with no viable counters to speak of. Nothing outspins it (in either left or right spin), its impossible to burst when paired with Hasbro Bearing (Zwei, offensive wizard, lord on X'), and the small size plus circular shape of the layer makes it extremely risky to try to knock out of the stadium. Why hasn't this thing been banned yet, if it has no consistent counters? Hell, why hasn't Hasbro Bearing been banned, for that matter? I get that the WBO tries to not jump the gun on bans, and tries to ban as few parts as possible, but I mean come on! This thing is from the God era and it's still topping tournaments!
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(Oct. 14, 2019 1:12 AM)Kei Wrote: Balkesh B3/Hasbro Bearing is still competitive, but it isn't broken anymore because of TAKARA-TOMY's new releases this year. And I say this as the person who was sort of leading the charge in pushing to ban one of the two things.Yeah, if kei, who was trying to ban Hasbro Br and B3 says it's not to OP, than you know it's fine. Also, It was never broken Kei, But I'm not gonna spark that fire, I'm just glad you agree now.
Left-spin Lord combos can deal with it consistently, and Judgment/Zwei can do well against it too depending on the combos and user skill.
b3 can be burst. In my reality, b3 consistently loses by KO, OS, and BST to my ZL combo.
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I yeet you bladerGem you pretty good at beyblade but i also very good maybe even the best
You not da bestest BladerGem because i yeet your bey
You not da bestest BladerGem because i yeet your bey
My B3 doesn't burst to my Zwei Longinus or my Lord Spriggan...
(Oct. 15, 2019 3:00 AM)Armor Wrote: My B3 doesn't burst to my Zwei Longinus or my Lord Spriggan...
Yeah I don't think it bursts to anything, tho Judgement,Lord, and Zwei can KO it.
B3 can basically beat almost any opposite spin combo. It can beat some same spin but it's definitely nowhere near as good same spin as it is opposite. As for combos 00 W Br for opposite is OP and you can switch W for Turn or Bump in same spin or else you'll get wrecked.
(Oct. 14, 2019 12:13 AM)BladerGem Wrote: I'm just curious, but why hasn't B3 been banned yet? Or even trial banned, for that matter? It has a solid place in the meta, with no viable counters to speak of. Nothing outspins it (in either left or right spin), its impossible to burst when paired with Hasbro Bearing (Zwei, offensive wizard, lord on X'), and the small size plus circular shape of the layer makes it extremely risky to try to knock out of the stadium. Why hasn't this thing been banned yet, if it has no consistent counters? Hell, why hasn't Hasbro Bearing been banned, for that matter? I get that the WBO tries to not jump the gun on bans, and tries to ban as few parts as possible, but I mean come on! This thing is from the God era and it's still topping tournaments!
It's not banned because a lot of things can counter it same spin, I think Lord on Xt+ on right spin ties and barely loses against it. Also zwei, lord, and judgement KO a good amount of times.
You don’t even need the new TT releases to beat B3. I can KO it pretty commonly with czV and czA.
(Oct. 14, 2019 5:11 AM)bladekid Wrote:(Oct. 14, 2019 1:12 AM)Kei Wrote: Balkesh B3/Hasbro Bearing is still competitive, but it isn't broken anymore because of TAKARA-TOMY's new releases this year. And I say this as the person who was sort of leading the charge in pushing to ban one of the two things.Yeah, if kei, who was trying to ban Hasbro Br and B3 says it's not to OP, than you know it's fine. Also, It was never broken Kei, But I'm not gonna spark that fire, I'm just glad you agree now.
Left-spin Lord combos can deal with it consistently, and Judgment/Zwei can do well against it too depending on the combos and user skill.
Not to mention the fact that he is the top ranked player in the world.