(Mar. 11, 2019 2:23 PM)bladekid Wrote: (Mar. 11, 2019 12:22 AM)BEYBLADE BEN Wrote: I know what I'm doing. J3 is NOT good. The only good god layers are mG, Sr, and aB for Hasbro.
If those are the only good layers, then you don't know how to properly use them. J3 can beat a lot of good left spin beys on the right setups, N3 is a pretty safe bey if used correctly, dC3 has really good stamina, lS3 can switch spin directions and imo, is the best hasbro layer if you know what you're doing,
Jinnius is bad overall, since its gimmick and shape makes it easy to destabilize and makes it useless in same spin matches. It's not as downright terrible against left-spin, but "less terrible" doesn't really cut it when you could be running far less risky counters to left spin that don't just auto-lose to right spin Evolution/God or above.
Nemesis/Noctemis is good against other Evolution/God beys with its Upper mode, but has troubles lifting Cho-Z's heavier weights very well which kills its usefulness pretty badly. Might be decent against left spin, but once again there are better ways to counter that without just downright losing to right spin Cho-Z beys.
Chaos/Caynox C3 has the same issue as Noctemis, being really good in Evolution/god but can't survive the heavier field very well, this time by being too easy to burst. I'm not even sure that it would work against left spin very well.
Legend Spryzen is a maybe, only because you can switch your spin direction with it if you need to. It's got the flexibility edge if used like Requiem, but is a bit weaker overall since it can't steal spin all that well and basically just lives on spinning the opposite direction of your opponent.
Beyond Legend Spryzen, it really does just boil down to Garuda, Spryzen Requiem, Balkesh, and maybe Kerbeus K4 in the "usable" pile for Hasbro. Maybe Fafnir if you're really peckish for a right-spin counter, but Spryzen Requiem and Balkesh are both far better for that sort of need.
(Jan. 27, 2019 4:40 PM)lilphilyb Wrote: Add nL's weight with both Bump and octa and you get something heavier than Cho-Z
This is a terrible, terrible idea. Nightmare Longinus/Luinor L3 has absolutely no synergy with a stationary driver like Octa. Sure, it'll weigh a comparable amount to a Super-Z bey, but nL has no real Defense or Stamina power and Octa kills off nL's Attack potential outright. TT demonstrated this with the very similar release of
Nightmare Longinus Planet in Random Booster 11. Even though Octa is better than Planet, it's not going to make it magically work out.
Nightmare Longinus
needs to be in an all-out attack combination to stand any chance whatsoever of doing anything useful. Even on a good all-out attack driver I don't think it wins against anything in the Cho-Z meta though aside from maybe Hell Salamander on Bearing or maybe the occasional offbeat Crash Ragnaruk.
God Valkyrie is also a bad idea, especially as it was heavily outclassed by a multitude of other layers even in Evolution/God (most notably Legend Spriggan and Sieg Xcaliber). Its spring gimmick is usually a downside that just dulls its own hits and hinders its Stamina, and although it's not as likely to burst because of it that means nothing if you're attacking with such a low amount of power anyways.
Cincinnati-based Organizer, and owner of every single currently released TT Burst bey part in at least one color. Hard to think of anything I don't have from MFB either...
