Yo. I've been using this combo for awhile now, waiting to post this thread. Leggo. A special thanks to Ingulit for his testing app and making everything so much easier. As a tribute, I'll test against MF Scythe Uranus 85 RS ♥

I chose Wyvang because I love it. More than Balro, Flash, or Begirados.

SA165 in lower mode to maximize outer weight distribution and give it a lift against E230 and give it a gap between the disk and lower Wyvang so it smash BD145 opponents.

LRF because R2F was too slow for me. LRF had the speed and proverbial "umph" to carry Wyvang.

Benchmarks:
Wyvang Wyvang GB145 RF vs. Revizer Revizer BD145 RDF
RR always launched first.
Wyvang: wins, 12/20 (All KO)
Revizer: wins, 8/20 (All OS)
Wyvang Wyvang GB145RF win rate: 60%

MF-H Flash Orion GB145 RF vs. Revizer Revizer BD145 RDF
RR always launched first.
Orion: wins, 9/20 (All KO)
Revizer: wins, 11/20 (All OS)
MF-H Flash Orion GB145RF win rate: 45%

Wyvang Dragooon SA165 R2F vs. Revizer^2 E230 RB
RR always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. WD OS
2. WD OS
3. WD KO
4. WD OS
5. RR KO
6. WD OS
7. WD OS
8. WD KO
9. WD OS
10. WD OS

WD: 9 (7 OS, 2 KO)
RR: 1 (0 OS, 1 KO)
WD Win %: 90.0%

Tests

Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. MF-H Duo Cygnus 230 TB
DC always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. WW KO
2. WW KO
3. WW KO
4. WW KO
5. WW KO
6. WW KO
7. WW KO
8. WW KO
9. WW KO
10. WW KO

WW: 10 (0 OS, 10 KO)
DC: 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
WW Win %: 100.0%


Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Balro^2 BD145 MF
BB launched first on even launches, WW launched first on odd.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. WW KO
2. WW KO
3. WW OS
4. BB KO
5. WW KO
6. WW KO
7. WW KO
8. WW KO
9. WW KO
10. WW KO
11. WW KO
12. WW KO
13. BB KO
14. WW KO
15. WW KO
16. WW KO
17. BB OS
18. WW KO
19. BB KO
20. WW KO

WW: 16 (1 OS, 15 KO)
BB: 4 (1 OS, 3 KO)
WW Win %: 80.0%

I GOT ONE BY SHEER DUMB LUCK XD

Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. MF Scythe Uranus 90 RS
SU always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. SU KO
2. SU OS
3. SU OS
4. SU KO
5. SU OS
6. SU OS
7. SU OS
8. SU KO
9. WW KO
10. SU OS

WW: 1 (0 OS, 1 KO)
SU: 9 (6 OS, 3 KO)
WW Win %: 10.0%


Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Revizer^2 BD145 RDF
RR always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. WW KO
2. WW KO
3. WW KO
4. WW KO
5. WW KO
6. WW KO
7. WW KO
8. WW KO
9. WW KO
10. RR OS
11. RR OS
12. WW KO
13. WW KO
14. WW KO
15. RR KO
16. RR OS
17. RR OS
18. WW KO
19. RR OS
20. WW KO

WW: 14 (0 OS, 14 KO)
RR: 6 (5 OS, 1 KO)
WW Win %: 70.0%


Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Killerken Dragooon SA165 WD
KD always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. WW KO
2. WW KO
3. WW KO
4. WW KO
5. WW KO
6. WW KO
7. WW KO
8. WW KO
9. WW KO
10. WW KO

WW: 10 (0 OS, 10 KO)
KD: 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
WW Win %: 100.0%


Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Phantom Cygnus SR200 TB
PC always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. WW KO
2. WW KO
3. WW KO
4. WW KO
5. WW KO
6. WW KO
7. WW KO
8. WW KO
9. WW KO
10. WW KO

WW: 10 (0 OS, 10 KO)
PC: 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
WW Win %: 100.0%

Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Killerken^2 BD145 RB
KK always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. WW KO
2. WW KO
3. WW OS
4. WW OS
5. KK OS
6. KK KO
7. WW KO
8. KK KO
9. KK OS
10. KK OS
11. WW KO
12. WW KO
13. KK OS
14. KK OS
15. WW KO
16. KK OS
17. WW KO
18. KK KO
19. WW KO
20. WW KO

WW: 11 (2 OS, 9 KO)
KK: 9 (6 OS, 3 KO)
WW Win %: 55.0%

Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Killerken^2 SR200 TB
KK always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. WW KO
2. WW KO
3. WW KO
4. WW KO
5. WW KO
6. WW KO
7. WW KO
8. WW KO
9. WW KO
10. WW KO

WW: 10 (0 OS, 10 KO)
KK: 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
WW Win %: 100.0%


Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Genbull^2 E230 MB
GG always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. WW KO
2. WW KO
3. WW KO
4. WW KO
5. GG OS
6. WW KO
7. WW KO
8. WW KO
9. WW KO
10. WW KO
11. GG OS
12. GG OS
13. GG KO
14. GG OS
15. GG KO
16. WW KO
17. GG OS
18. Tie; Tie; WW KO
19. GG OS
20. WW KO

WW: 12 (0 OS, 12 KO)
GG: 8 (6 OS, 2 KO)
WW Win %: 60.0%


Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Revizer^2 E230 RB
RR always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. WD OS
2. WD OS
3. RR OS
4. RR OS
5. WD KO
6. WD OS
7. RR OS
8. WD KO
9. WD OS
10. WD KO
11. RR OS
12. Tie; WD KO
13. WD KO
14. WD KO
15. RR KO
16. RR OS
17. RR KO
18. WD KO
19. WD KO
20. WD KO

WD: 13 (4 OS, 9 KO)
RR: 7 (5 OS, 2 KO)
WD Win %: 65.0%


Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. MSF-L Genbull Dragooon F230 CF (EWW)
EW always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. EW KO
2. WW KO
3. EW KO
4. WW KO
5. WW KO
6. WW KO
7. EW KO
8. EW OS
9. WW KO
10. WW KO
11. EW KO
12. WW KO
13. EW KO
14. WW KO
15. WW KO
16. WW KO
17. EW KO
18. EW KO
19. EW KO
20. WW KO
21. WW KO
22. EW KO
23. WW KO
24. EW KO
25. WW KO
26. EW KO
27. EW KO
28. WW KO
29. WW KO
30. WW KO

WW: 17 (0 OS, 17 KO)
EW: 13 (1 OS, 12 KO)
WW Win %: 56.7%


Wyvang^2 SA165 (Attack) LRF vs. Genbull Genbull F230 CF
EW always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. WW KO
2. WW KO
3. WW KO
4. WW KO
5. WW KO
6. WW KO
7. WW KO
8. WW KO
9. WW KO
10. WW KO

WW: 10 (0 OS, 10 KO)
EW: 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
WW Win %: 100.0%

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Veteran, just getting back into the sway of things

No offense, but this is just a normal wyvang attacker. I seems like a cool new track to use though. Nice tests.

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Do you think you can include a benchmark to your tests?

Can you test VS. MSF-L Genbull Dragooon F230CF/GCF?

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6 God is watching and I hope you're prepared to face him

No offense, but this is just a normal wyvang attacker. I seems like a cool new track to use though. Nice tests.

No offense, your F230 combo seems like another F230 combo. I like how you put an attack chrome wheel on it though.
There was the purpose to the new track, and thank you.

Kira: Will do!

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Veteran, just getting back into the sway of things

Benchmark with Wyvang dragoon SA165R2F against Reviser Reviser E230RB plz

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Threads you should read:

Pony King ? God, can't believe I typed this. I have to put my keyboard in the dishwasher now...

dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

I'll do that

But I want you to know, left and right-spin attack are two very different things.

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Veteran, just getting back into the sway of things

Somebody FINALLY tested this. Geez, that took forever.

Anywho, awesome results! I've tested this thing informally against tons of stuff, and it's definitely a competitive option for Attack. IMO This thing should be added to the tier list as soon as we can get enough results.

#SA165AttackFTW

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Yaaaaas. I've been too lazy to test it and today I had nothing to do XD

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Veteran, just getting back into the sway of things

I'll do that

But I want you to know, left and right-spin attack are two very different things.

Yes, I know. But the combo I suggested gets very good numbers, so i would like to compare this attack custom to another good attack custom, so I can do my analysis XP

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Threads you should read:

Pony King ? God, can't believe I typed this. I have to put my keyboard in the dishwasher now...

dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

Pepsi is saying that comparing left-spin to right-spin Attack is not really the best comparison; they can behave very differently against the same combo. Wyvang Dragooon won almost completely by OS, something that would have been impossible if it weren't spinning opposite to Revizer; you are closer to doing an Attack vs. aggro Spin steal comparison rather than an appropriate benchmark for this combo.

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Threads and combos!

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[LTD] MF Jade Horogium 85RSF
[LTD] RB / RSF Attack
[LTD] Ronin Genbull (Crystal Up) 85RF
MF-H Phantom (Attack) Cancer 85RB
MSF-H Wyvang Ifraid GB145RF {Alternative to Wyvang^2 with more Upper Attack}
MSF-H Genbull Genbull 85RSF {Improved version of the above Phantom combo}
Balro Begirados 100RF {LTAC with both Upper Smash and regular Smash}
[LTD] MF-H Lightning L-Drago 85RB {more controllable Lightning LTAC}
[LTD] Burn Orion 105SF {Destabilizer}

Maybe you can try Wyvang Wyvang GB145/H145R2F.

It did very well against F230, thanks for the tests!

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6 God is watching and I hope you're prepared to face him

Thanks Cake
Kira: That's already on the tier list, go read TBD's article on RF/R2F based attack, Wyvang^2 GB145 RF is already benchmarked
But yes, left and right-spin attack are very different. Against same spin, you'll most likely get clean KO's, opposite spin match-ups are usually pushout.

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Veteran, just getting back into the sway of things

Oh OK. My second choice for a benchmark would have been Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F so thanks for the tests Dr.PepsiDew

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Threads you should read:

Pony King ? God, can't believe I typed this. I have to put my keyboard in the dishwasher now...

dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

Oh, what I meant is, Maybe you can try Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F as a benchmark instead of Wyvnag Dragooon, haha. XD

I wasn't suggesting you use that combo, lol.

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6 God is watching and I hope you're prepared to face him

Oh, what I meant is, Maybe you can try Wyvang Wyvang GB145R2F as a benchmark instead of Wyvnag Dragooon, haha. XD

I wasn't suggesting you use that combo, lol.

There is a benchmark for that exact combo except with RF instead of R2F

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Veteran, just getting back into the sway of things