I think LAD needs to be controlled by bans since Savior/Ultimate can’t handle it.

People got really mad at me last time I told you to think before you post... Here is a video. 

---

th!nkBlargh|H-Code Product List

I think LAD needs to be controlled by bans since Savior/Ultimate can’t handle it.

People got really mad at me last time I told you to think before you post... Here is a video. 

I withdraw my statement 😓😓😓😓

I think one thing to consider is that there are lots of high LAD drivers. Lots and lots of top tier LAD options now.  Because of that,

1) the variant driver rule hurts KO attackers more because they have less top tier options

2) since there are lots and lots of top tier LAD drivers, LAD drivers are not safe from each other in LAD matches.  I have recorded this following video in the follow ways:
-not much skill involved.  I tilt or not tilt and launch light or moderate to high moderate depending on the situation.
-I tried my best to launch pretty much the same way each round most of the time
-I am not trying to show what I can do or anyone else can do.  I am only hoping to see if the tools are there for someone skilled to do it.  
-no cuts, no edits, straight through.  

UπR.Lg.X’-9 (low mode) vs VLn.Ov.HXt+’-0 (low mode)
https://youtu.be/Fmqn1GU_wZI

Is the above really less safe against LAD than LAD vs LAD?
Also, I am one of the few who prefer savior over ultimate.  I think I am bad with Ultimate. Push comes to shove, I personally don’t like either tbh and would only use them reluctantly.  I would use them because of odds tho.  The tools seem to be there to me.

NC New Game+
Waxhaw, NC- 19 March 2022

Burst Standard Format
Winning Combos:

1st Fire blader07
Devil(F-Gear) Belial 2 Over High Xtend+'-0 (First Stage Only)
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+'-0
Devil(F-Gear) Perseus Tapered Drift-9 (Deck Format Finals Only)
Guilty Bahamut Giga Metal Drift-10 (Deck Format Finals Only)

2nd BeyCaddie
Roar Bahamut Giga Metal drift-10
Prominence Valkyrie Tapered Mobius-0
Dynamite(F-Gear) Belial Over High Xtend+'-3

3rd Breaker Bahamut
Guilty Longinus Nexus(S-Gear) Xtreme'-2
Dynamite(F-Gear) Valkyrie Over Bearing'-0
Dynamite(F-Gear) Valkyrie Giga Bearing'-3 (Deck Format Finals Only)
Vanish Longinus Giga High Xtend+'-3 (Deck Format Finals Only)
Guilty Fafnir Nexus(S-Gear) Xtreme'-2 (Deck Format Finals Only)
Dynamite(F-Gear) Perseus Over Bearing'-0 (Deck Format Finals Only)
Prominence Belial 2 Over High Xtend+'-0 (Deck Format Finals Only)
Dangerous(F/L-Gear) Valkyrie Giga Drift (Deck Format Finals Only)



Thanks to everyone for coming out.

---

aka The Competitive Gamer

You Can Only Choose!
Standard P3C1

Silver Springs Maryland
3/20/2022

CrisisCrusher07 1st Place

Guilty Fafnir Karma Jolt' -6 1st Stage Only

World Diabolos Giga Drift 1S Deck Format Only

Dynamite (F Gear) Perseus Tapered Bearing' -9 1st Stage and Deck Format
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+' -0 1st Stage and Deck Format

geetster99 2nd Place

Vanish Longinus Giga High Xtend+' -0 1st Stage Only
Dynamite Belial 2 Over Bearing’ -3 1st Stage Only

Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+' -0 Deck Format Only
Dynamite belial 2 Tapered Bearing’ -3 Deck Format Only
World Spriggan Giga Drift 1S Deck Format Only

Allen Schaffer 3rd Place

Dynamite Perseus (F Gear) Tapered Bearing' -9 1st Stage Only
Vanish Longinus Giga Bearing -6 1st Stage Only
Roar Bahuamet Giga Metal Drift -10 1st Stage Only

Roar Bahuamet Giga Drift -10 Deck Format Only
Prominence Belial 1 Nexus (S Gear) Metal Drift -6 Deck Format Only
Dynamite Perseus (F Gear) Over High Xtend+' -9 Deck Format Only

Rage Diabolos 3A Metal Xtreme Deck Format Only
Guilty Lonhinus 0 Over Xtreme' -0 Deck Format Only (No Ponts)
Astral Belial 2 Giga Xtreme -9 Deck Format Only (No Points)

I put the 2 combos that did not get points in only because I feel that in deck format it's important to have the knowledge of what the bladers were thinking when making their decks.

---

You Can Only Choose!
Standard P3C1

Silver Springs Maryland
3/20/2022

CrisisCrusher07 1st Place

Guilty Fafnir Karma Jolt' -6 1st Stage Only

World Diabolos Giga Drift 1S Deck Format Only

Dynamite (F Gear) Perseus Tapered Bearing' -9 1st Stage and Deck Format
Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+' -0 1st Stage and Deck Format

geetster99 2nd Place

Vanish Longinus Giga High Xtend+' -0 1st Stage Only
Dynamite Belial 2 Over Bearing’ -3 1st Stage Only

Vanish Longinus Over High Xtend+' -0 Deck Format Only
Dynamite belial 2 Tapered Bearing’ -3 Deck Format Only
World Spriggan Giga Drift 1S Deck Format Only

Allen Schaffer 3rd Place

Dynamite Perseus (F Gear) Tapered Bearing' -9 1st Stage Only
Vanish Longinus Giga Bearing -6 1st Stage Only
Roar Bahuamet Giga Metal Drift -10 1st Stage Only

Roar Bahuamet Giga Drift -10 Deck Format Only
Prominence Belial 1 Nexus (S Gear) Metal Drift -6 Deck Format Only
Dynamite Perseus (F Gear) Over High Xtend+' -9 Deck Format Only

Rage Diabolos 3A Metal Xtreme Deck Format Only
Guilty Lonhinus 0 Over Xtreme' -0 Deck Format Only (No Ponts)
Astral Belial 2 Giga Xtreme -9 Deck Format Only (No Points)

I put the 2 combos that did not get points in only because I feel that in deck format it's important to have the knowledge of what the bladers were thinking when making their decks.

Jolt? Someone has been grinding hard!

Jolt? Someone has been grinding hard!

Indeed. I was practicing with all kinds of rubber tips all week!

---

Jolt? Someone has been grinding hard!

Indeed. I was practicing with all kinds of rubber tips all week!

I am legitimately stoked to see it man. And Jolt of all things, I guess the hard rubber is easier if you're more used to plastic drivers huh? Maybe I need to practice with plastic, so I can be effective with lld blitz jl' in GT 😅

World Drift is cool to see too, I feel like World is still a pretty viable layer honestly.

---

th!nkBlargh|H-Code Product List

Indeed. I was practicing with all kinds of rubber tips all week!

I am legitimately stoked to see it man. And Jolt of all things, I guess the hard rubber is easier if you're more used to plastic drivers huh? Maybe I need to practice with plastic, so I can be effective with lld blitz jl' in GT 😅

World Drift is cool to see too, I feel like World is still a pretty viable layer honestly.

Honestly I chose to practice with Jolt’ because I didn’t want to rely on Xtreme’. I know Xtreme’ is arguably the best attack driver because on how fast it is, but I feel like the other attack drivers deserve some spot lite too.

World on drift was definitely a monster! Most of the matches it was in were obviously opposite spin and even against opposite spin drifts. But it had less draws than most of the other layers and when it won it was always clear and visible.

---

I am legitimately stoked to see it man. And Jolt of all things, I guess the hard rubber is easier if you're more used to plastic drivers huh? Maybe I need to practice with plastic, so I can be effective with lld blitz jl' in GT 😅

World Drift is cool to see too, I feel like World is still a pretty viable layer honestly.

Honestly I chose to practice with Jolt’ because I didn’t want to rely on Xtreme’. I know Xtreme’ is arguably the best attack driver because on how fast it is, but I feel like the other attack drivers deserve some spot lite too.

World on drift was definitely a monster! Most of the matches it was in were obviously opposite spin and even against opposite spin drifts. But it had less draws than most of the other layers and when it won it was always clear and visible.

Very fair. For me as much as I can flower it quite well, the harder rubber doesn't give guilty the rotational recoil control it needs to really clinch some of the wins against left spin opponents. It is much like quick' not quite cutting it on Ultimate. But different strokes for different folks - just like people like different flavours of x' better. It's just good to see people practicing their attack launch and reaping some reward from it, and very nice to see that we have what is starting to look like a pretty nicely varied metagame even without the restrictions on driver variants. Hopefully we can have a look at this whole mess with spinning and rolling to make judging a little easier though!

---

th!nkBlargh|H-Code Product List

Honestly I chose to practice with Jolt’ because I didn’t want to rely on Xtreme’. I know Xtreme’ is arguably the best attack driver because on how fast it is, but I feel like the other attack drivers deserve some spot lite too.

World on drift was definitely a monster! Most of the matches it was in were obviously opposite spin and even against opposite spin drifts. But it had less draws than most of the other layers and when it won it was always clear and visible.

Very fair. For me as much as I can flower it quite well, the harder rubber doesn't give guilty the rotational recoil control it needs to really clinch some of the wins against left spin opponents. It is much like quick' not quite cutting it on Ultimate. But different strokes for different folks - just like people like different flavours of x' better. It's just good to see people practicing their attack launch and reaping some reward from it, and very nice to see that we have what is starting to look like a pretty nicely varied metagame even without the restrictions on driver variants. Hopefully we can have a look at this whole mess with spinning and rolling to make judging a little easier though!

Agreed. We tested out P3C1 for the first time in our area and there were so many opposite spin match ups it was terrible.

---

Very fair. For me as much as I can flower it quite well, the harder rubber doesn't give guilty the rotational recoil control it needs to really clinch some of the wins against left spin opponents. It is much like quick' not quite cutting it on Ultimate. But different strokes for different folks - just like people like different flavours of x' better. It's just good to see people practicing their attack launch and reaping some reward from it, and very nice to see that we have what is starting to look like a pretty nicely varied metagame even without the restrictions on driver variants. Hopefully we can have a look at this whole mess with spinning and rolling to make judging a little easier though!

Agreed. We tested out P3C1 for the first time in our area and there were so many opposite spin match ups it was terrible.

Yeah I honestly feel like p3c1 might be directly worse than single bey? As much as 3v3 has some significant accessibility issues, it is probably my favourite for burst. 

And yeah, at the end of the day TT seem intent on releasing masses of LAD focussed drivers and I feel like nothing we can do with part restrictions is really going to stop it. I think we can at least try to a) make judging easier and b) look at ways to incentivise people to spend the time practicing to use things that finish games more decisively such as attack or same spin stamina. Hopefully that will reduce both matches that are LAD battles and the amount of debates that result from this. While you've been practicing attack I've been testing stamina, going through masses of drivers looking for ones that can outspin HXt+' (the best same spin driver of our LAD lads)... Even a few Hasbro ones (blasphemy and illegal I know, but I can also say absolutely no damage results). I'm hoping to have some results worth reading in a month or so 😅

---

th!nkBlargh|H-Code Product List

Crimson Cup
3/26/2022
BSC Format
Round Robin

-Fireblaze- 1st Dranzer F Heavy Octa
-Fireblaze- 1st Drigger F Gravity Defense
-Fireblaze- 1st Victory Valkyrie Bumper Unite'

Firekingard 2nd Dark Deathscyther Heavy Defense
Firekingard 2nd Drigger F Gravity Never
Firekingard 2nd Minoboros Knuckle Octa

Jrdiabolos 3rd Wyvron Spread (Speedstorm) Destroy
Jrdiabolos 3rd Dranzer F Wing High xtend +
Jrdiabolos 3rd Nova Neptune Infinity Unite'

Crimson Cup
3/26/2022
Round Robin

-Fireblaze- 1st Dranzer F Heavy Octa
-Fireblaze- 1st Drigger F Gravity Defense
-Fireblaze- 1st Victory Valkyrie Bumper Unite'

Firekingard 2nd Dark Deathscyther Heavy Defense
Firekingard 2nd Drigger F Gravity Never
Firekingard 2nd Minoboros Knuckle Octa

Jrdiabolos 3rd Wyvron Spread (Speedstorm) Destroy
Jrdiabolos 3rd Dranzer F Wing High xtend +
Jrdiabolos 3rd Nova Neptune Infinity Unite'

Bumper???

Crimson Cup
3/26/2022
Round Robin

-Fireblaze- 1st Dranzer F Heavy Octa
-Fireblaze- 1st Drigger F Gravity Defense
-Fireblaze- 1st Victory Valkyrie Bumper Unite'

Firekingard 2nd Dark Deathscyther Heavy Defense
Firekingard 2nd Drigger F Gravity Never
Firekingard 2nd Minoboros Knuckle Octa

Jrdiabolos 3rd Wyvron Spread (Speedstorm) Destroy
Jrdiabolos 3rd Dranzer F Wing High xtend +
Jrdiabolos 3rd Nova Neptune Infinity Unite'

Bumper???

Yup that’s correct

Bumper???

Yup that’s correct

How? (what's next, Limited? Boost/Nine/Aero?)

Yup that’s correct

How? (what's next, Limited? Boost/Nine/Aero?)

I mean, it WAS a burst classic tournament

FOREVER BEYS - 3/27/22
Toronto, ON, Canada - Burst GT Format - Unranked (First Stage 1v1, Final Stage WBO Deck)

1st: Kei
Curse Solomon (Metal Chip Core) Vanguard Zone’+Z 1S
Zwei Diabolos Sting Xtreme’
Perfect Phoenix (Level Chip) Hybrid
Tact Longinus 00 Wall Bearing' Goku (Deck Format Finals Only)

2nd: machaow
Revive Phoenix (Level Chip) Around Keep’
Zwei Longinus Blitz Xtreme’ Goku
Master Diabolos Sting Zone’+Z

3rd: Dan
Master Spriggan Wheel (Hasbro) Xtend+
Tact Longinus 10 Wall Drift Sen
Curse Lucifer 2 00 Expand Zone’+Z (Hasbro +Z) 1S

4th: XxP13RR3xX

Our first Burst GT Format event! Unfortunately, due to our first tournament of the day taking too long and the weather being very cold, we only ended up with eight players for this one. It was also supposed to be P3C1, but we changed it to 1v1 to save some time.

---

FOREVER BEYS - 3/27/22
Toronto, ON, Canada - Burst GT Format - Unranked (First Stage 1v1, Final Stage WBO Deck)

1st: Kei
Curse Solomon (Metal Chip Core) Vanguard Zone’+Z 1S
Zwei Diabolos Sting Xtreme’
Perfect Phoenix (Level Chip) Hybrid
Tact Longinus 00 Wall Bearing Goku (Deck Format Finals Only)

2nd: machaow
Revive Phoenix (Level Chip) Around Keep’
Zwei Longinus Blitz Xtreme’ Goku
Master Diabolos Sting Zone’+Z

3rd: Dan
Master Spriggan Wheel (Hasbro) Xtend+
Tact Longinus 10 Wall Drift Sen
Curse Lucifer 2 00 Expand Zone’+Z (Hasbro +Z) 1S

4th: XxP13RR3xX

Our first Burst GT Format event! Unfortunately, due to our first tournament of the day taking too long and the weather being very cold, we only ended up with eight players for this one. It was also supposed to be P3C1, but we changed it to 1v1 to save some time.

Big shout out to everyone who managed to use attack in that weather lol. Interesting to see the use of Zwei over Judgment too!

I see Curse is now showing up, bleh. 

How did everyone find the format?

---

th!nkBlargh|H-Code Product List

Yup that’s correct

How? (what's next, Limited? Boost/Nine/Aero?)

Bumper is definitely not as bad as the other Discs you've listed. Bumper is a watered down Knuckle that is still within the top 10 Discs in the format, while Limited, Boost, Nine, Aero are all in the bottom half of usable Discs.

---

I have organized 70+ tournaments in Vancouver since 2022.

How? (what's next, Limited? Boost/Nine/Aero?)

Bumper is definitely not as bad as the other Discs you've listed. Bumper is a watered down Knuckle that is still within the top 10 Discs in the format, while Limited, Boost, Nine, Aero are all in the bottom half of usable Discs.

Oh. Someone needs to update that wiki draft.

Yup that’s correct

How? (what's next, Limited? Boost/Nine/Aero?)

It’s not always about the disk, it’s about the blader wielding the blade and the skill they have. As long as you got skill you can make nearly anything work lol but bumper isn’t bad at all.

BLUEZEE WAS RIGHT? - 3/27/22

Toronto, ON, Canada - Burst Standard Format - Ranked (First Stage 3on3, Final Stage WBO Deck)

1st: henwooja1
Dynamite (F Gear) Belial 2 Giga High Xtend+'-10
Vanish Longinus Over Bearing'-0
Greatest Raphael Wheel Mobius (Deck Format Finals Only)

2nd: originalzankye
Dynamite (F Gear) Valkyrie Giga High Xtend+'-3
Vanish Longinus Over Bearing'-0
Guilty Bahamut Nexus (S Gear) Quick'-10

3rd: Hey_its_Wasay
Vanish Fafnir Over Bearing'-3
Guilty Longinus Nexus Metal Xtreme-2
Dynamite (F Gear) Belial 2 Giga High Xtend+'-6

4th: Chika
waiting for confirmation


Just wanted to put this up for those interested. Thanks again everyone for showing up despite the weather. Next time I'll make sure it's either a warm day or pushed back.

---

shout out 2 kai-v 2.

The Complete Competitive HMS Resource

BLUEZEE WAS RIGHT? - 3/27/22

Toronto, ON, Canada - Burst Standard Format - Ranked (First Stage 3on3, Final Stage WBO Deck)

1st: henwooja1
Dynamite (F Gear) Belial 2 Giga High Xtend+'-10
Vanish Longinus Over Bearing'-0
Greatest Raphael Wheel Mobius (Deck Format Finals Only)

2nd: originalzankye
Dynamite (F Gear) Valkyrie Giga High Xtend+'-3
Vanish Longinus Over Bearing'-0
Guilty Bahamut Nexus (S Gear) Quick'-10

3rd: Hey_its_Wasay
Vanish Fafnir Over Bearing'-3
Guilty Longinus Nexus Metal Xtreme-2
Dynamite Belial 2 Giga High Xtend+'-6

4th: Chika
waiting for confirmation


Just wanted to put this up for those interested. Thanks again everyone for showing up despite the weather. Next time I'll make sure it's either a warm day or pushed back.

The guys of that one player who use plain old dynamite…

The guys of that one player who use plain old dynamite…

Oh, thanks for catching that. It was Dynamite (F Gear) as well. I mistakenly didn't type that in.

---

shout out 2 kai-v 2.

The Complete Competitive HMS Resource