Sayonara-bye Odin was absolutely one of our best Burst Format events to date in Toronto, at least in terms of the quality and quantity of competitively viable customizations present.
This event confirmed for me that we made the right decision in banning Odin. No single combo felt insurmountable, overly versatile, or too easy to use; everything had a solid counter available. For several past events there was often one combo that was the "big player" of the day, but at this event I don't think you can pinpoint one such combo. That's a positive sign for the health of the Burst Format metagame in my mind.
(Mar. 13, 2016 12:48 AM)1234beyblade Wrote: RHX did bad, it only managed to beat WHZ 3-1 by pushing it out, it lost to DHD and WHC iirc.
You lost against my Deathscyther Spread Gyro in one of the tiebreakers; I think you may be referring to that when you say "DHD".
(Mar. 13, 2016 2:40 AM)FIREFIRE Wrote: @[Kei]. really how VFN performed? i don't have needle nor force so no idea what it [like big mystery for me lol]
I won once against JesseObre's Deathscyther Gyro combo and lost once with it against Mitsu's stationary Wyvern combo (although it was 3-2, I should note). It has enough movement to have a chance against stallers and was quite capable of late game Burst Finishes against not only Deathscyther, but sometimes Wyvern too. I like how Force sits on Valkyrie–I feel like it's possible for the metal to sometimes come into contact with the plastic of the opposing Beyblade–so that's why I used it. And Needle feels like a better version of Blow in many ways; Needle has similar–if not the same–Stamina, has a touch less movement potential, but can take hits better than Blow.
(Mar. 13, 2016 6:20 AM)Thunder Dome Wrote: (Mar. 13, 2016 5:55 AM)jonahblader13 Wrote: (Mar. 13, 2016 5:44 AM)Thunder Dome Wrote: Am I the only one who thinks that Deathscyther Ring Accel/Zephyr is slightly overpowered at the current state of the meta? Is there actually a valid counter to it?
Attack. Especially Xtreme. From my tests I was using SOX just because it was just kind of funny. It could knock DHZ off of stall pattern and get a burst pretty easily. That's all I really know. I got it to burst and OS DHD at Amaterious Atlanta Assault. It also couldn't OS OHD in my tests.
How does attack beat it though? Literally I went against 3 attack types last even (2 Extreme and 1 Accel and I 3-0ed all of them using Deathscyther Ring Accel (I actually used it every match that even for the record). The attack couldn't catch up whatsoever and even if it was on the ridge Deathscyther just slammed it. Even sliding shoot was pretty ineffective. There should even be a few videos actually, I believe they might've filmed it. @[ZachBob] @[Dark_Mousy]
I was also able to beat Deathscyther Heavy Defense at the event as well. Like I'm not sure if we missed something but it honestly seemed unstoppable.
I can't speak to your own experience, but at this event Deathscyther Ring Zephyr was used by a lot of people. Other people like @[LMAO], @[Mitsu], and @[pyrus10000] who used it themselves might be able to speak more to this, but it seemed to be losing quite often to Attack at our event. Ring in particular makes it more prone to bursting, as others have stated above. I mean, it even lost to a Ragnaruk combo at one point. And I was able to defeat it with Deathscyther Heavy Defense (although maybe that has something to do with launch power). Do you have any particular way of launching it that you think makes it so effective against Attack?