WBO Organized Play Rule Updates March 2018 – 12 Core Disk Restriction


Kei
Outlined below is one important new ruling addition to the WBO Organized Play Burst Format rulebook. View all WBO Organized Play Rules & Resources here, and a summary of the change below:



Burst Format Updates

[Image: Beyblade-Burst-12-Disc.png]

Burst Format: 12 Core Disk must be used with a Frame
With recent reports indicating that the new 12 Core Disk from Beyblade Burst Super Z can cause damage to other parts, we have decided to introduce a restriction on its usage. Effective immediately, the 12 Core Disk must be used with a Frame at WBO Organized Play tournaments.

While it has not yet been determined for certain, the primary issue appears to be pairing the uncovered 12 Core Disk with Drivers that are taller than normal, such as the new Volcanic Driver. By forcing a Frame to be used with it, any issues with it damaging other parts will be avoided.

If evidence suggesting otherwise appears in the future, or if TAKARA-TOMY releases another version of the 12 Core Disk which is less aggressive, this decision may be reconsidered.




Feedback?
If you have any feedback on these particular changes, or any questions or suggestions for further adjustments or additions, please post your thoughts below or in the WBO Organized Play Rules thread.

Thank you to everyone for your continued support of WBO Organized Play! We appreciate any and all feedback and are always looking to improve and clarify things where possible.

View all WBO Organized Play Rules & Resources here.
(Mar. 30, 2018  2:30 AM)Kei Wrote: Outlined below is one important new ruling addition to the WBO Organized Play Burst Format rulebook. View all WBO Organized Play Rules & Resources here, and a summary of the change below:



Burst Format Updates

[Image: Beyblade-Burst-12-Disc.png]

Burst Format: 12 Core Disk must be used with a Frame
With recent reports indicating that the new 12 Core Disk from Beyblade Burst Super Z can cause damage to other parts, we have decided to introduce a restriction on its usage. Effective immediately, the 12 Core Disk must be used with a Frame at WBO Organized Play tournaments.

While it has not yet been determined for certain, the primary issue appears to be pairing the uncovered 12 Core Disk with Drivers that are taller than normal, such as the new Volcanic Driver. By forcing a Frame to be used with it, any issues with it damaging other parts will be avoided.

If evidence suggesting otherwise appears in the future, or if TAKARA-TOMY releases another version of the 12 Core Disk which is less aggressive, this decision may be reconsidered.




Feedback?
If you have any feedback on these particular changes, or any questions or suggestions for further adjustments or additions, please post your thoughts below or in the WBO Organized Play Rules thread.

Thank you to everyone for your continued support of WBO Organized Play! We appreciate any and all feedback and are always looking to improve and clarify things where possible.

View all WBO Organized Play Rules & Resources here.

Nice! I know being at a tournament is supposed to be fun, and banning this disk will help people have more fun and be chill instead of being on edge.(V.12.E)So yeah. In all, good job team!
(Mar. 30, 2018  2:30 AM)Kei Wrote: Outlined below is one important new ruling addition to the WBO Organized Play Burst Format rulebook. View all WBO Organized Play Rules & Resources here, and a summary of the change below:



Burst Format Updates

[Image: Beyblade-Burst-12-Disc.png]

Burst Format: 12 Core Disk must be used with a Frame
With recent reports indicating that the new 12 Core Disk from Beyblade Burst Super Z can cause damage to other parts, we have decided to introduce a restriction on its usage. Effective immediately, the 12 Core Disk must be used with a Frame at WBO Organized Play tournaments.

While it has not yet been determined for certain, the primary issue appears to be pairing the uncovered 12 Core Disk with Drivers that are taller than normal, such as the new Volcanic Driver. By forcing a Frame to be used with it, any issues with it damaging other parts will be avoided.

If evidence suggesting otherwise appears in the future, or if TAKARA-TOMY releases another version of the 12 Core Disk which is less aggressive, this decision may be reconsidered.




Feedback?
If you have any feedback on these particular changes, or any questions or suggestions for further adjustments or additions, please post your thoughts below or in the WBO Organized Play Rules thread.

Thank you to everyone for your continued support of WBO Organized Play! We appreciate any and all feedback and are always looking to improve and clarify things where possible.

View all WBO Organized Play Rules & Resources here.

Never would have thought the disc would cause damage. I would suggest putting Bump or Glaive on it
What type of damage in specific
Frostic Fox
J.J. it cuts/stabs at the layer of other beys. It cut into some of the rubber on my Drain Fafnir.

Images from Fafnir (Click to View)


You can see more damage in the video below. I grabbed a screenshot of one part, if you'd rather not watch the video.

Damage on video (Click to View)
J.J.
Oh that's sad

Would vortex be good on 12

To protect other beys
IronFace879
Maybe Hasbro will be well aware of this, and will begin to try and find a way to prevent it from doing intense damage to other parts by redesigning it as a whole to make the spear point blunter and less destructive, or, if Hasbro is over-reactive, remove the part altogether and replace it with Winning Valtryek ?? Vl. We don’t want Hasbro to remove the part entirely because it damages beys too much, we just want them to make 12 non-damaging whatsoever. Tony did notice how intense weight of 12 would be pretty big of a deal here. If the 12 disc is heavier than 7, expect the end of all your beyblades when launching without a disc frame.
Frostic Fox
(Apr. 09, 2018  6:04 AM)IronFace879 Wrote: Tony did notice how intense weight of 12 would be pretty big of a deal here. If the 12 disc is heavier than 7, expect the end of all your beyblades when launching without a disc frame.
12 is said to be the lightest of all the discs so far. It's definitely not heavy, in the least.

It's how it's sharp and sits outward for hitting other beys that's the problem, likely being coupled with taller drivers like Volcanic make it far more likely to hit layer plastic. (But restricting drivers wouldn't remove the chance of damage entirely.)

But it still does damage fairly quickly as it is. It would be way worse if it was heavier, I'm sure.
IronFace879
I’m not a Tomy collector, but I might think that the disc frames could still leave a little of the spear tip of 12. See if you could try each of the frames on just in case.

Even a little showing of the spikes will be harmful. I just don’t know if 12 is bigger than the frame.
this is werid why would they make the 12 disk any way
(Apr. 18, 2018  12:52 PM)thechinahater Wrote: this is werid why would they make the 12 disk any way

Why can't they make a 12 disc?
vvakhaze
This infringes on the rights of Bladers we should be able to use what ever combo we want as long as it doesn't make a combo that can't be beaten, but it's ultimately your descicion , I just hope you reconsider your decision so bladers who don't have frames, can use the 12 disc freely.
RichieBoi
(Apr. 19, 2018  3:37 PM)vvakhaze Wrote: This infringes on the rights of Bladers we should be able to use what ever combo we want as long as it doesn't make a combo that can't be beaten, but it's ultimately your descicion , I just hope you reconsider your decision so bladers who don't have frames, can use the 12 disc freely.

The 12 disc damages many layers and it is still outclassed in every way. Those who don't have frames shouldn't use it and those who do still shouldn't use it because there are much better options.
vvakhaze
(Apr. 19, 2018  3:40 PM)RichieBoi Wrote:
(Apr. 19, 2018  3:37 PM)vvakhaze Wrote: This infringes on the rights of Bladers we should be able to use what ever combo we want as long as it doesn't make a combo that can't be beaten, but it's ultimately your descicion , I just hope you reconsider your decision so bladers who don't have frames, can use the 12 disc freely.

The 12 disc damages many layers and it is still outclassed in every way. Those who don't have frames shouldn't use it and those who do still shouldn't use it because there are much better options.
Nevermind I see your point, that still won't stop me from using 12, I'll just use it with my fav frame: vortex.
Frostic Fox
(Apr. 19, 2018  3:37 PM)vvakhaze Wrote: This infringes on the rights of Bladers we should be able to use what ever combo we want as long as it doesn't make a combo that can't be beaten, but it's ultimately your descicion , I just hope you reconsider your decision so bladers who don't have frames, can use the 12 disc freely.

(Apr. 19, 2018  3:44 PM)vvakhaze Wrote:
(Apr. 19, 2018  3:40 PM)RichieBoi Wrote: The 12 disc damages many layers and it is still outclassed in every way. Those who don't have frames shouldn't use it and those who do still shouldn't use it because there are much better options.
Nevermind I see your point, that still won't stop me from using 12, I'll just use it with my fav frame: vortex.

Regardless of competitive value, you're free to use it with a frame. If someone was at a tournament and all they had was a Winning Valkyrie, so they didn't have a frame or a different disc to use, they may find someone to borrow a piece from.

After 12 damaged my favorite layer, I put it off to the side. Until I see there is an actual use for the lightest disc in the game, it can just sit and be pretty.

But to each their own, of course.
ultra destinus
I guess Takara Tomy was a little too intense with the design for the beyblade and forgot to do the observations when they were testing 12.
Ok I get why not to use the twelve disk so to prevent damage could you Tomy or Hasbro(twelve disk not made yet for Hasbro) you can just make it plastic?
(Apr. 29, 2018  6:55 PM)Xxswordylegend Wrote: Ok I get why not to use the twelve disk so to prevent damage could you Tomy or Hasbro(twelve disk not made yet for Hasbro) you can just make it plastic?

That's up to Takara-Tomy and Hasbro. WBO is in no way affiliated with the official companies of Beyblade. We're all fans here.

So for now, the solution is to cover up 12's points with a plastic frame if you want to use it. If you deem it worth using at all, anyway.
I can justify this as well. The first time I put Valkyrie against my Z Achilles, it gouged a decent scar into the Achilles layer. If you guys want a similat approach but with less damage, I would try the Reach frame. Make Weight Disc Attack a thing again. XD I support this all the way.
(Apr. 29, 2018  9:35 PM)Frostic Fox Wrote:
(Apr. 29, 2018  6:55 PM)Xxswordylegend Wrote: Ok I get why not to use the twelve disk so to prevent damage could you Tomy or Hasbro(twelve disk not made yet for Hasbro) you can just make it plastic?

That's up to Takara-Tomy and Hasbro. WBO is in no way affiliated with the official companies of Beyblade. We're all fans here.

So for now, the solution is to cover up 12's points with a plastic frame if you want to use it. If you deem it worth using at all, anyway.

There's no way they are not going to recreate it. They fixed Victory Valkyrie's wings problem. I doubt they wouldn't release a better version of 12 for people who want to use the stock parts of Winning Valkyrie.
(May. 05, 2018  12:52 PM)g2_ Wrote: There's no way they are not going to recreate it. They fixed Victory Valkyrie's wings problem. I doubt they wouldn't release a better version of 12 for people who want to use the stock parts of Winning Valkyrie.

I agree that Hasbro likely won't release 12 as-is. They will either fix it or pick a different disc. I lean more towards fixing if TT creates a fixed version.

The person I was replying to seemed to think the WBO could do something about it, as if it's affiliated with the companies. As far as I understood anyway.
(May. 05, 2018  3:16 PM)Frostic Fox Wrote:
(May. 05, 2018  12:52 PM)g2_ Wrote: There's no way they are not going to recreate it. They fixed Victory Valkyrie's wings problem. I doubt they wouldn't release a better version of 12 for people who want to use the stock parts of Winning Valkyrie.

I agree that Hasbro likely won't release 12 as-is. They will either fix it or pick a different disc. I lean more towards fixing if TT creates a fixed version.

The person I was replying to seemed to think the WBO could do something about it, as if it's affiliated with the companies. As far as I understood anyway.

Takara Tomy is 99% going to fix it.
(Apr. 09, 2018  6:04 AM)IronFace879 Wrote: Maybe Hasbro will be well aware of this, and will begin to try and find a way to prevent it from doing intense damage to other parts by redesigning it as a whole to make the spear point blunter and less destructive, or, if Hasbro is over-reactive, remove the part altogether and replace it with Winning Valtryek ?? Vl. We don’t want Hasbro to remove the part entirely because it damages beys too much, we just want them to make 12 non-damaging whatsoever. Tony did notice how intense weight of 12 would be pretty big of a deal here. If the 12 disc is heavier than 7, expect the end of all your beyblades when launching without a disc frame.

Most likely yeah. Hasbro stepped up her game and made better beys since the first season both in design and quality. Therefore it would be no surprise if they made 12 less aggresive. Maybe completely blunt in the edges in order not to Alter ( Cognite) it that much.( I had to do that joke, please don't kill me)
Since 12 is making a reappearance in B-113, I would hope TT will release a fixed version there. Only time will tell.
(Apr. 09, 2018  1:39 AM)The J.J. Wrote: Oh that's sad

Would vortex be good on 12

To protect other beys
I think Glaive lines up better, but I don't see a reason to use the 12 disc anyway