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Thoughts about parts/Odd combos/The metagame in general

Sep. 09, 2010  8:55 PM
 
(Sep. 09, 2010  3:21 PM)beybeyboy15 Wrote: Thank you very much and remember its spam trying to debunk someone else postLibruhhh

No, it's not.

Anyways, my friend's Dark Leone 100F kept winning against his defense combo (Rock Bull CH120WB). Not the best Defense type, but I might look into Dark as an attack type later.
Sep. 09, 2010  9:00 PM
 
Been trying storm as a defence wheel lately with some weird results.
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Sep. 11, 2010  4:43 AM
 
ok, copy paste here ^^
mine was not onlya "hey look at my combos" but something like "here what i think about their matchups"
so, if you think i'm wrong on something please tell me.
also, i forgot one i'll include.

MF Pegasis CH120 RF
what i think about it:
- Does extremely well against defense
- Does VERY bad against other attack RF based combos
- Doesn't have many problems with opponent heights, 120 is quite good against almost everything

MF Leone H145/CH120/100 RF
what i think about it:
- Does OK against Defense Types while using H145, a little better with CH120
- Does quite well against other RF users, especially if using h145
- Does bad against Quetz
- if you didn't knock out your opponent rf bey, expect to lose cause leone has 0 stamina

MF Acquario 90/100 RF (seems to be better without metal face)
what i think about it:
- Heavy hits other beyblades but requires a lot of movement, so it's quite risky because if you shoot strong with rf and don't have perfect control with it, you can self kill.
- does well against defense, but sometimes banking is not enough, sliding shoot is better with acquario, i think.
- does well against other rf users
- I need to test it more, still, some people here play this combo and obtain good results.
- maybe it does bad with low rf beyblades, dunno, didn't test

Lightning L Drago 100/CH120 RF
what i think about it:
- Very nice stenght while hitting opponent's beyblade.
- Does very well against defense
- Does Ok against other rf beyblades
- Does a bit bad against low (90-100) rf beyblades.
- it's very light but for some reason, even with rf vs rf, LLD can stand many hits.
- steal spin can be useful against other attack types.

MF Gemios 90/ch120/h145/GB145 RF
what i think about it:
- It's a strange blade. i think i can say it's quite balanced, as from my tests
it does just "ok" everytime. It's decent vs defense, vs attack, and the height
doesn't really matter. it seems that with gb does a bit better.
It can be a good choice when you don't really know what to play.

MF Quetz 90/100/CH120 RF (i need a cs to test ch120 cs)
what i think about it:
- It's surely a strong beybladebut i can't get its full potential out. From my tests,
it does very well against attack types if you can hit them consistently, but if you don't,
you'll probably lose by outspin. Against defense, it does ok if at the same height or a little shorter, but for some reason, i can't pull off
good results while playing quetz 90 vs defense combo 145

Rock Bull GB145 RF
what i think about it:
- does well against defense but you have to hit as soon as possible opponent's bey.
- does very good against most rf combos, it resists against hits and then outspins others
- does not so good against leone with rf, if it hits you there are good chances you're out. note you can easily outspin leone so you're trying to run away from leone's attacks.
- does not so good vs quetz. This is similar to what i wrote about leone, luckily quetz is a little weaker against this blade.

Storm Pegasis 100 RF without metal face(tried it after kei v told me about it being top tier)
what i think about it
- personally, i still don't like this combo. it does quite good against defense, but from my tests it gets
completely defeated by other rf users, maybe cause it's too light, don't know. So... to defeat defense i think there are better combos.
the good and fun thing about this bey is that it moves really fast, but i still think it's not worth playing it.

Gravity Perseus H145 RF Counter Mode
what i think about it:
- it's kinda strange but it seems to be quite good against everything, should test it vs aquario, leone and quetz anyway. I need more testing, what did you obtain fron your results?
Sep. 11, 2010  4:48 AM
 
Most of those are only a part off from common combos.
Sep. 11, 2010  4:52 AM
 
uhm yeah, did you read the beginning of the post? do you think my thoughts are correct?
Sep. 12, 2010  2:47 AM
 
(Sep. 11, 2010  4:43 AM)Yamislayer Wrote: Storm Pegasis 100 RF without metal face(tried it after kei v told me about it being top tier)
Storm Pegasis 100RF is not Top-Tier anymore. We updated the list of Competitive MFB Combos a few days ago.
Sep. 12, 2010  7:06 AM
 
(Sep. 09, 2010  3:21 PM)beybeyboy15 Wrote: (Stratus G, MR.Know it all)Tongue_out_wink
(Sig'd but you forgot the lil' period at the end of my name.)

First of all everyone knows that the tip can be any of the top tier tips for the combo, such as earthbulldf145sd and flamebulldf145sd happy:\.
(Well i apparently don't know)

And I already know about my modification's for my own repeat own stadium. I did this because if you can read I said I dont have a takara tomy stadium and I wanted to try out knock outs.
(Own repeat own stadium? I know its yours and that you can do what ever you want with it. I was just pointing out it's illegal)

Now if you don't like my mod then you don't have to waste your time writing useless stuff. And yes I understand flamepegasus100rf wont work for you but I use it to go against my other bey-blades.
("My Mod"? What?)
("For me"?.Guess i need to work on my bey-spirit and friendship if I'm the only one on this site that this combo doesn't work for.)

Thank you very much and remember its spam trying to debunk someone else postLibruhhh
(Your welcome?)
My thoughts are within the Quote ( )
Sep. 12, 2010  12:30 PM
 
(Sep. 09, 2010  3:21 PM)beybeyboy15 Wrote: remember its spam trying to debunk someone else post
SPAM is usually classified as pointless and annoying messages. (eg. HI HI HI HI HI HI HI HI HI HI HI HI HI HI HI HI... HELLO!!! )

Debunking a post is probably counted as raising an argument, not SPAM.
Sep. 16, 2010  1:49 AM
 
(Sep. 09, 2010  8:55 PM)Daegor42 Wrote: No, it's not.

Anyways, my friend's Dark Leone 100F kept winning against his defense combo (Rock Bull CH120WB). Not the best Defense type, but I might look into Dark as an attack type later.

I've tried this when a person made a thread with: Dark Wolf 100RF.

Just to attempt to close the topic,seeing that it had dark, thinking that it would be horrible. I tested it, and it had a 20% win rate against MF Earth Bull C145WB. I was actually pretty shocked that Dark could even knock out Earth Bull two times, let alone four.

Dark does actually have not bad attack than we give it, but nowhere near storm.
Sep. 16, 2010  2:31 AM
 
Pitiful, considering how lame Storm is.
Dec. 27, 2011  5:58 AM
 
For some reason I love Flame Scorpio 85 JB.

JB is interesting. Also I think the Thunder MW is a lot better than people think. I've been trying out an odd combo, Thunder _____ 230 CS, and it works pretty good.
Dec. 27, 2011  6:31 AM
 
Flame Scorpio combos are always fun to mess around with.
Thunder on 230? Thunder is quite balanced itself... Hmm.
Dec. 27, 2011  9:58 PM
 
Yeah, I'm thinking of a good Thunder Combo. Maybe the generic MF Thunder Aquario BD145 CS.

Flame Scorpio 85 JB just is getting better and better Smile.
Dec. 27, 2011  10:32 PM
 
Hehe, I got bored and made Rock Horogium 105Q. Q is actually an OK attack tip if not used with M145.
Dec. 27, 2011  10:37 PM
 
Q is not an okay attack tip by any means.
It, along with M145, is a seizure in Beyblade form.
Dec. 28, 2011  2:28 AM
 
Q's better at attack than non-attack tips. That is about all that can be said, though, it really is the bottom of the barrel. We're talking, below SF, FS, F: D, F: S, D: D, WB, and such. Only referring to the second mold here, of course, I don't have the first (which is probably the same but worse). It's absolutely horrible, and you're better off just not using attack, but yeah.

Despite what some people seem to believe currently, M145 still is, always was, and always will be a terrible, terrible track for anything (including attack).

Thunder will always be outclassed by Libra, it's basically libra without the weight and great distribution that made libra so powerful. Almost any thunder combo could be improved by replacing it with Metal System Libra.
Dec. 28, 2011  3:56 AM
 
My Phantom Orion only spins for 3 mins solo 0.0
Also I made a random combo Thermal Gemios 130DS and it almost beat Phantom Cancer 90D. If I knew that Phantom would win why did I battle the two? I will never know, But I do know I will have nightmares of those few moments.
I can also ballance Phantom Orion on my finger and pass it from hand to hand while its spinning. I love doing tricks like that Grin .
Dec. 28, 2011  4:07 AM
 
I've been working with my new Twisted wheel, and Twisted Pisces GB145 WD is working great. I'm thinking about how Twisted would work on JB. I'll do some tests.

EDIT: Ok, it's amazing. Just amazing.
Dec. 28, 2011  4:09 AM
 
If you want Beyblade tricks, try with an ES. Actually, I've been nursing a fun idea involving stuff like this for some time now. Expect a PM sooner or later Arupaeo if you're reading this.
Dec. 28, 2011  4:38 AM
 
Ive tested it and BGrin works a little better because the ballance. I tried ES it kinda wobbled around and died. I can keep a bey with BGrin spinning in my hand for about 2 mins max. ES about 30 secs max Uncertain
Dec. 28, 2011  5:00 AM
 
Twisted + B : D = mismatch

I've also heard ES is terrible. I'll try it, though.

I like Twisted with JB because JB is both aggressive and defensive. Kinda like CS, but see my avatar. Twisted on offense is deadly, and Twisted on defense is just amazing. Reason for choosing Pisces CW is it has the shark teeth spikes, making it defensive, and I've heard Pisces is a good attack CW, too.

Plus I just like Pisces Tongue_out

EDIT: OT: I didn't notice that I had more than 100 posts o.o
Dec. 28, 2011  5:04 AM
 
I find that B : D takes impacts harder than ES. It's also easier to do moving tricks with ES than B : D. 30 seconds max? I can get up to a minute, but I've been hand-spinning beys for a super long time.

On another note, I find that Yamislayer's description of TT's product releases (see thread: Where is this game going?) to be extremely accurate. Lulz were had as well, but that's beside the point.

EDIT: To above me, UltimateChimera and I were talking about tricks with Beyblades, like what Raul and Julia did with Torch and Thunder Pegasus in Beyblade G-Revolution (only not to that degree).
Dec. 28, 2011  5:06 AM
 
@Ga;
Lawl, me and Bluezee once discussed M145 and ES and he had a plan to make a combo, MF Basalt Aquario M145ES. At the time he had me believing (I didn't have M145 nor Basalt) that when M145 was moved outwards, ES would neutralize this effect (because of the freespinning part in ES) and it would be a Hybrid Stamina / Anti Meta combo.
Then I got M145 and Basalt.
Didn't work out. XD
However back to the metagame in general... Pretty much Yamis thread >>
Dec. 28, 2011  6:31 AM
 
MF Phantom Ketos M145 W2D Odd combo it does better than it should yet fails to surpass the minds of all
Dec. 28, 2011  6:41 AM
 
Yet it fails to surpass anything on a track that isn't just plain stupid.
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