[Takara Tomy]  Zwei Longinus Testing Thread

I just got Zwei Longinus, so if anyone wants me to test it against other combos please post what you want to see here.
Zwei Longinus 0Bump Bearing vs. Slash Valkyrie 10Star Xtreme/Hunter
ZL.Dr.Jl' vs pP.bl.xt+ (stamina)
(Jun. 29, 2019  4:47 PM)Dt20000 Wrote: Zwei Longinus 0Bump Bearing vs. Slash Valkyrie 10Star Xtreme/Hunter

Zwei Longinus 0B Br ( Odd) vs Slash Valkrie 10S X’ (Even) ( Sliding Shoot )
Standard Procedure 
zL 0B Br: 9 Wins ( 5 OS, 4 KO)
sV 10S X’: 1 Win ( 1 BF)
0 Draws
zL Win Percentage- 90%
(Jun. 29, 2019  4:40 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote: I just got Zwei Longinus, so if anyone wants me to test it against other combos please post what you want to see here.

aB3.0G.At VS ZL.Dr.Ds’ Metsu
(Jun. 29, 2019  5:27 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote:
(Jun. 29, 2019  4:47 PM)Dt20000 Wrote: Zwei Longinus 0Bump Bearing vs. Slash Valkyrie 10Star Xtreme/Hunter

Zwei Longinus 0B Br ( Odd) vs Slash Valkrie 10S X’ (Even) ( Sliding Shoot )
Standard Procedure 
zL 0B Br: 9 Wins ( 5 OS, 4 KO)
sV 10S X’: 1 Win ( 1 BF)
0 Draws
zL Win Percentage- 90%

Follow-up: zL 0B Br vs aV 10S X'
(Jun. 29, 2019  4:55 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: ZL.Dr.Jl' vs pP.bl.xt+ (stamina)

Zwei Longinus Dr Jl’(Odd)(Sliding Shoot) vs pP Bl Xt+(Even)
Standard Procedure
zL Dr Jl’: 8 Wins (All KO)
pP Bl Xt+: 12 Wins (All OS)
0 Draws
zL Win Percentage- 40%
ZL .St.Z (or Z') Metsu vs ChoS .00W.Br (left and right, if possible?)
(Jun. 29, 2019  5:32 PM)CheetoBlader Wrote:
(Jun. 29, 2019  4:40 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote: I just got Zwei Longinus, so if anyone wants me to test it against other combos please post what you want to see here.

aB3.0G.At VS ZL.Dr.Ds’ Metsu
Balkesh B3 0G At (Odd) vs Zwei Longinus Dr Ds’ (Even) (Sliding Shoot)
B3 0G At: 2 Wins (2 OS)
zL Dr Ds’: 8 Wins (2 KO, 3 OS, 3 BF)
0 Draws
zL Win Percentage- 80%

(Jun. 29, 2019  5:34 PM)Dt20000 Wrote:
(Jun. 29, 2019  5:27 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote: Zwei Longinus 0B Br ( Odd) vs Slash Valkrie 10S X’ (Even) ( Sliding Shoot )
Standard Procedure 
zL 0B Br: 9 Wins ( 5 OS, 4 KO)
sV 10S X’: 1 Win ( 1 BF)
0 Draws
zL Win Percentage- 90%

Follow-up: zL 0B Br vs aV 10S X'
Zwei Longinus 0B Br (Odd) vs Ace Valkrie 10S X’ (Even) (Sliding Shoot)
zL 0B Br: 8 Wins (7 OS, 1 KO )
aV 10S X’: 2 Wins ( 2 BF )
0 Draws
zL Win Percentage- 80%

(Jun. 29, 2019  5:48 PM)DrPedrão Wrote: ZL .St.Z (or Z') Metsu vs ChoS .00W.Br (left and right, if possible?)

Zwei Longinus St Z (Even) (Sliding Shoot) vs CZS 00W Br (Left)(Odd)
zL St Z: 10 Wins (3 KO, 1 BF, 6 OS)
CZS 00W Br: 0 Wins
0 Draws
zL Win Percentage- 100%
So does this mean Zwei is good at Attack against Left-Spin Beyblades, and Spin Equalization against Right-Spin Beyblades?

Also, can you try wL 0B Br against sV 10S Hn' or X'?
Can you test ZL.0g.variable (awakened) vs hS.00c.xt+ (stamina) and pP.bl.xt+ (stamina)?

Metsu is the layer weight.
(Jun. 29, 2019  6:14 PM)Dt20000 Wrote: So does this mean Zwei is good at Attack against Left-Spin Beyblades, and Spin Equalization against Right-Spin Beyblades?

Also, can you try wL 0B Br against sV 10S Hn' or X'?
If I pick up the Gen Weight, zL Br would be even better than it is now, it would destroy left spins and spin equalize against right spin.
Zwei Longinus Drake Quick' Metsu (slide shoot) Vs Perfect Phoenix 00 Cross Xtend+ (Alternate between Attack and Stamina) Thx
B3 0L Br Vs Zwei Longinus sting quick' metsu.
(Jun. 29, 2019  6:29 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote:
(Jun. 29, 2019  6:14 PM)Dt20000 Wrote: So does this mean Zwei is good at Attack against Left-Spin Beyblades, and Spin Equalization against Right-Spin Beyblades?

Also, can you try wL 0B Br against sV 10S Hn' or X'?
If I pick up the Gen Weight, zL Br would be even better than it is now, it would destroy left spins and spin equalize against right spin.

Have 2 coming, can do some tests when get back from vacation 

Thanks for doing so much testing Ardmore
@REDNINJA0829 and @#Fafnir , I will try do your tests very soon, but I will have a testing partner to do the tests with, so they should go much faster.
(Jun. 30, 2019  2:14 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote: @REDNINJA0829 and @#Fafnir , I will try do your tests very soon, but I will have a testing partner to do the tests with, so they should go much faster.

Ok, Good Luck At The Tournament Today
Zwei Fafnir 10Glaive Jolt' 滅 vs. Balkesh B3 00Wall Bearing
zF.10G.Jl' 滅: 17 wins (11 KO, 4 OS, 2 burst)
B3.00W.Br: 3 wins (all OS)
zF.10G.Jl' 滅 win rate: 85%

Zwei was able to KO B3 really easily, and even if it couldn't, more often than not it would beat it to death against the stadium wall and cause it to scrape. Although it only bursted twice, there were several other rounds where B3 had lost some of its slope, which is admittedly more than like 99% of other combos can do to it. I also tested it against hS and CzS informally and it was beating those too, so I don't think there's any left spin combo that can consistently beat Zwei on Jl' unless something like Wizard/Dread Gen Keep/Unite can do it.
Wizard Longinus 00P Br Ten (mid speed) vs Cho-Z Valkyrie Sting X'
One question. How good do you think the layer Zwei Longinus Metsu's stamina is? As far as I can tell, it shouldn't be too bad, but i'm just guessing. I haven't gotten Zwei Longinus yet.
(Jul. 16, 2019  1:37 AM)Dash Driver Wrote: One question. How good do you think the layer Zwei Longinus Metsu's stamina is? As far as I can tell, it shouldn't be too bad, but i'm just guessing. I haven't gotten Zwei Longinus yet.

Stamina for the stock Attack Layer should be good as it is, but you can replace the Chip and Weight for Diabolos since it has tighter teeth plus heavier distributed weight. Drake Disk has synergy with the Layer but inevitably fails on the LAD aspect. 

Since I have little to no time recently to test battles, can someone try Zwei Fafnir.Drake.Hold Metsu against some of the top right spin meta combos on Bearing, Xtend+, Atomic, Eternal? I ask for opposite spin matchups since I know it is fairly obvious that Zwei will own most if not all left-spin Layers currently released in Burst.
So from a recent local tournament, I've seen Zwei Diabolos flick through both spins quite steadily and harshly, but I have not actually seen nor tested whatever combos they have used (no Bursts even against Judgment combos there). I've tried it on 00U.Dm' (lowest Attack) and it does have some smashing upper attack potential against spin equalizers (does not Burst upon contact, and the clicks are negligible). I don't have the numbers written down, but on that combo, you'd need the low Balance mode vs free-spinning ball-tipped/rigid sharp-tipped Drivers (regardless of material) to avoid being pushed back by its own recoil power.
(Sep. 10, 2019  2:58 AM)Rouzuke Wrote: So from a recent local tournament, I've seen Zwei Diabolos flick through both spins quite steadily and harshly, but I have not actually seen nor tested whatever combos they have used (no Bursts even against Judgment combos there). I've tried it on 00U.Dm' (lowest Attack) and it does have some smashing upper attack potential against spin equalizers (does not Burst upon contact, and the clicks are negligible). I don't have the numbers written down, but on that combo, you'd need the low Balance mode vs ball-tipped/sharp-tipped Drivers (regardless of material) to avoid being pushed back by its own recoil power.
It was also used by Ardmore Bladers with ZL.St.Dm’.
(Sep. 10, 2019  3:01 AM)Dash Driver Wrote: L
(Sep. 10, 2019  2:58 AM)Rouzuke Wrote: So from a recent local tournament, I've seen Zwei Diabolos flick through both spins quite steadily and harshly, but I have not actually seen nor tested whatever combos they have used (no Bursts even against Judgment combos there). I've tried it on 00U.Dm' (lowest Attack) and it does have some smashing upper attack potential against spin equalizers (does not Burst upon contact, and the clicks are negligible). I don't have the numbers written down, but on that combo, you'd need the low Balance mode vs ball-tipped/sharp-tipped Drivers (regardless of material) to avoid being pushed back by its own recoil power.
It was also used by Ardmore Bladers with ZL.St.Dm’.

Oh yeah, I think I remembered seeing that combo in the WBO tournament Winning combos thread. I had Longinus on Wizard with Gen already so I put the heavy Diabolos Chip on the mean Zwei Base. Bad news is that that Base also chips off a lot of plastic from itself more than it does from the opponents (as evidenced by white plastic particles remaining on my stadium after tests). 

Seems kinda sad that Drake had too much scrape, since it would've been a great synergistic part with Zwei and Metsu. When I think further about it, no one in our local tournament used Zwei without Diabolos, same with how a lot of us used Lord Spriggan with Blitz on Bearing there lol
I guess somebody could try ZD.St.A’ against B3.00W.Br, DB.00W.Br.Gen, amd pP.00C.Xt+.