[Takara Tomy] Rage Longinus Testing and Discussion

#Fafnir · Jul. 07, 2020 3:28 PM

A testing and discussion thread for Rage Longinus.
Tests

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More tests to come.

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GreenK9148 · Jul. 07, 2020 3:32 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020 3:28 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: A testing and discussion thread for Rage Longinus.

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Rage Longinus Destroy' 3A VS Master Fafnir Wheel Xtend+ (Stamina)
Rage Longinus Destroy' 3A: 30% (3 KOs)
Master Fafnir Wheel Xtend+: 70% (6 OS, 1 KO)
Thoughts on this test: I feel Rage probably would've done better on Hunter', I couldn't get Destroy' to flower pattern very well
More tests to come.

can you do rage vs zwei diabolos, on same combos?

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#Fafnir · Jul. 07, 2020 3:35 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020 3:32 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote:
(Jul. 07, 2020 3:28 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: A testing and discussion thread for Rage Longinus.

Tests (Click to View)
Rage Longinus Destroy' 3A VS Master Fafnir Wheel Xtend+ (Stamina)
Rage Longinus Destroy' 3A: 30% (3 KOs)
Master Fafnir Wheel Xtend+: 70% (6 OS, 1 KO)
Thoughts on this test: I feel Rage probably would've done better on Hunter', I couldn't get Destroy' to flower pattern very well
More tests to come.

can you do rage vs zwei diabolos, on same combos?

Unfortunately I don't have the Diabolos chip.
I'm about to update the OP with another test btw.

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GreenK9148 · Jul. 07, 2020 3:44 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020 3:35 PM)#Fafnir Wrote:
(Jul. 07, 2020 3:32 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote: can you do rage vs zwei diabolos, on same combos?

Unfortunately I don't have the Diabolos chip.
I'm about to update the OP with another test btw.

do you have diabolos 2? If not, can you do bahamut chip

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#Fafnir · Jul. 07, 2020 3:49 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020 3:44 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote:
(Jul. 07, 2020 3:35 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: Unfortunately I don't have the Diabolos chip.
I'm about to update the OP with another test btw.

do you have diabolos 2? If not, can you do bahamut chip

I can do Diabolos 2. What weight? It may be awhile before I get to it though.
Also, OP updated.

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GreenK9148 · Jul. 07, 2020 3:50 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020 3:49 PM)#Fafnir Wrote:
(Jul. 07, 2020 3:44 PM)GreenK9148 Wrote: do you have diabolos 2? If not, can you do bahamut chip

I can do Diabolos 2. What weight? It may be awhile before I get to it though.
Also, OP updated.

metsu.

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BuilderROB · Jul. 07, 2020 4:00 PM

Let’s try...Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot’ 3A against Lord Fafnir 0Cross Xtend+ (Stamina Mode).

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DrPedrão · Jul. 07, 2020 4:08 PM

I'm really curious about RLn's performance on .Jl' 3A. Are Rage's upper attacks that better than Zwei's?

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g2_ · Jul. 07, 2020 4:09 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020 4:08 PM)DrPedrão Wrote: I'm really curious about RLn's performance on .Jl' 3A. Are Rage's upper attacks that better than Zwei's?

In my opinion, by far. Rage is simply a Zwei on steroids.

(Jul. 07, 2020 4:00 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Let’s try...Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot’ 3A against Lord Fafnir 0Cross Xtend+ (Stamina Mode).

I can do that. But why use Lord on left spin?

#Fafnir · Jul. 07, 2020 4:22 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020 4:08 PM)DrPedrão Wrote: I'm really curious about RLn's performance on .Jl' 3A. Are Rage's upper attacks that better than Zwei's?

I don't own Jolt'. Sorry about that.

(Jul. 07, 2020 4:00 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Let’s try...Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot’ 3A against Lord Fafnir 0Cross Xtend+ (Stamina Mode).

Added to the list of tests I need to do.

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BuilderROB · Jul. 07, 2020 4:22 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020  4:09 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Jul. 07, 2020  4:08 PM)DrPedrão Wrote: I'm really curious about RLn's performance on .Jl' 3A. Are Rage's upper attacks that better than Zwei's?
In my opinion, by far. Rage is simply a Zwei on steroids.

(Jul. 07, 2020  4:00 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Let’s try...Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot’ 3A against Lord Fafnir 0Cross Xtend+ (Stamina Mode).
I can do that. But why use Lord on left spin?

Because that’s what most people would use Lord on. Yes, it’s not the ideal spin direction in this case, but in a tournament setting, it’s a realistic situation.

Hey there! My name is BuilderROB and I am an organizer who hosts tournaments in North Carolina.

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g2_ · Jul. 07, 2020 4:28 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020 4:22 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(Jul. 07, 2020 4:09 PM)g2_ Wrote: In my opinion, by far. Rage is simply a Zwei on steroids.

I can do that. But why use Lord on left spin?

Because that’s what most people would use Lord on. Yes, it’s not the ideal spin direction in this case, but in a tournament setting, it’s a realistic situation.

Alright.

(Jul. 07, 2020 4:22 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(Jul. 07, 2020 4:09 PM)g2_ Wrote: In my opinion, by far. Rage is simply a Zwei on steroids.

I can do that. But why use Lord on left spin?

Because that’s what most people would use Lord on. Yes, it’s not the ideal spin direction in this case, but in a tournament setting, it’s a realistic situation.

Rage Longinus Ul' 3A vs Lord Fafnir 0Cross Xtend+.
10 rounds ties redone, Lord always launched first.

Rage Longinus: 3 K.O's 5 Spin finishes.
Lord Fafnir: 2 Spin Finishes.

Rage Longinus didn't dominate this, surprisngly, Brave is better in same spin.

Brave Valkyrie Ul' 2A vs Lord Ashura 0Cross Xtend+.

Brave Valkyrie: 7 spin finishes, 3 K.Os.

Lord Ashura: No wins.

Valkyrie was whooping it . Longinus is much better in opposite spin than Valkyrie.

Rage Longinus

#Fafnir · Jul. 07, 2020 5:40 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020 4:22 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(Jul. 07, 2020 4:09 PM)g2_ Wrote: In my opinion, by far. Rage is simply a Zwei on steroids.

I can do that. But why use Lord on left spin?

Because that’s what most people would use Lord on. Yes, it’s not the ideal spin direction in this case, but in a tournament setting, it’s a realistic situation.

I did this test not knowing g2_ had done it as well.
Rage Longinus Ul' 3A VS Lord Fafnir 0C Xt+
Rage Longinus Ul' 3A: 80% (2 OS, 5 KOs, 1 BF)
Lord Fafnir 0C Xt+: 20% (2 OS)

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g2_ · Jul. 07, 2020 6:32 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020 5:40 PM)#Fafnir Wrote:
(Jul. 07, 2020 4:22 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Because that’s what most people would use Lord on. Yes, it’s not the ideal spin direction in this case, but in a tournament setting, it’s a realistic situation.

I did this test not knowing g2_ had done it as well.
Rage Longinus Ul' 3A VS Lord Fafnir 0C Xt+
Rage Longinus Ul' 3A: 80% (2 OS, 5 KOs, 1 BF)
Lord Fafnir 0C Xt+: 20% (2 OS)

My results were pretty similar, but more tests is always good.

#Fafnir · Jul. 07, 2020 6:58 PM

Test for GreenK9148:
Zwei Diabolos2 Sting Destroy' VS Master Fafnir Wheel Xtend+
Zwei Diabolos2 String Destroy': 20% (2 KOs)
Master Fafnir Wheel Xtend+: 80% (8 OS)

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GreenK9148 · Jul. 07, 2020 7:12 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020 6:58 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: Test for GreenK9148:
Zwei Diabolos2 Sting Destroy' VS Master Fafnir Wheel Xtend+
Zwei Diabolos2 String Destroy': 20% (2 KOs)
Master Fafnir Wheel Xtend+: 80% (8 OS)

Thanks. Interesting, it seems that rage has slightly better KO strength.

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#Fafnir · Jul. 07, 2020 7:28 PM

Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot' VS Master Fafnir Vanguard Zone.
Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot': 50% (4 KOs, 1 OS)
Master Fafnir Vanguard Zone: 50% ( 5 OS)
I think Zone may have KO defense potential.

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g2_ · Jul. 07, 2020 7:42 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020 7:28 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot' VS Master Fafnir Vanguard Zone.
Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot': 50% (4 KOs, 1 OS)
Master Fafnir Vanguard Zone: 50% ( 5 OS)
I think Zone may have KO defense potential.

Zone is not good in my opinion.

#Fafnir · Jul. 07, 2020 7:51 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020 7:42 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Jul. 07, 2020 7:28 PM)#Fafnir Wrote: Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot' VS Master Fafnir Vanguard Zone.
Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot': 50% (4 KOs, 1 OS)
Master Fafnir Vanguard Zone: 50% ( 5 OS)
I think Zone may have KO defense potential.

Zone is not good in my opinion.

I actually felt the same way until I tested the KO resistance of it.

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BuilderROB · Jul. 07, 2020 8:06 PM

Try Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot’ 3A against Lord Dragon2 0Cross Xtend+ (Stamina Mode). I want to see how well Lord does in opposite spin against Rage Longinus.

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g2_ · Jul. 07, 2020 8:06 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020 7:51 PM)#Fafnir Wrote:
(Jul. 07, 2020 7:42 PM)g2_ Wrote: Zone is not good in my opinion.

I actually felt the same way until I tested the KO resistance of it.

Really? I'll have to try it then.

#Fafnir · Jul. 07, 2020 8:14 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020 8:06 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Try Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot’ 3A against Lord Dragon2 0Cross Xtend+ (Stamina Mode). I want to see how well Lord does in opposite spin against Rage Longinus.

Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot' 3A VS Lord Dragon2 0C Xtend+
Lord Dragon2 0C Xt+: 20% (1 KO, 1OS)
Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot': 80% (8 KOs)

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BuilderROB · Jul. 07, 2020 8:16 PM

Hmmm...try Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot’ 3A Vs Lord Dragon2 Sting Keep, assuming you do not have Keep’.

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g2_ · Jul. 07, 2020 8:27 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020 8:16 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Hmmm...try Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot’ 3A Vs Lord Dragon2 Sting Keep, assuming you do not have Keep’.

Lord has more than enough burst resistance anyway. But if you want, I can test it. I have Keep'.

#Fafnir · Jul. 07, 2020 8:29 PM

(Jul. 07, 2020 8:16 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Hmmm...try Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot’ 3A Vs Lord Dragon2 Sting Keep, assuming you do not have Keep’.

Lord Dragon2 Sting Keep VS Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot' 3A
Lord Dragon2 Sting Keep: 0%
Rage Longinus Ultimate Reboot' 3A: 100% (7 KOs, 3 OS)
By the way, all of these tests have been 10 rounds, ties redone.

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