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[Takara Tomy]  Brave Valkyrie Testing and Discussion

Jun. 05, 2020  10:49 AM
 
I did some testing to see if valkyrie can hold up to pure attackers.

Brave Valkyrie (3blade mode)xtend + (defense)vs imperial Achilles Blitz Destroy'

Results
BVl.Xt+ 60% win rate (2 KO and 4 out spin)
IA.Bl.Ds' 40% win rate (1 KO and 3 out spin)
Jun. 05, 2020  4:10 PM
 
(Jun. 05, 2020  10:49 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: I did some testing to see if valkyrie can hold up to pure attackers.

Brave Valkyrie (3blade mode)xtend + (defense)vs imperial Achilles Blitz Destroy'

Results
BVl.Xt+          60% win rate (2 KO and 4 out spin)
IA.Bl.Ds'        40% win rate (1 KO and 3 out spin)

I find that the match switches heavily in imperial's favour if using wheel instead  of blitz
Jun. 05, 2020  4:14 PM
 
(Jun. 05, 2020  4:10 PM)bcpaws Wrote:
(Jun. 05, 2020  10:49 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: I did some testing to see if valkyrie can hold up to pure attackers.

Brave Valkyrie (3blade mode)xtend + (defense)vs imperial Achilles Blitz Destroy'

Results
BVl.Xt+          60% win rate (2 KO and 4 out spin)
IA.Bl.Ds'        40% win rate (1 KO and 3 out spin)

I find that the match switches heavily in imperial's favour if using wheel instead  of blitz
Want me to do it with Wheel?
Jun. 05, 2020  4:15 PM
 
(Jun. 05, 2020  4:10 PM)bcpaws Wrote:
(Jun. 05, 2020  10:49 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: I did some testing to see if valkyrie can hold up to pure attackers.

Brave Valkyrie (3blade mode)xtend + (defense)vs imperial Achilles Blitz Destroy'

Results
BVl.Xt+          60% win rate (2 KO and 4 out spin)
IA.Bl.Ds'        40% win rate (1 KO and 3 out spin)

I find that the match switches heavily in imperial's favour if using wheel instead  of blitz
Oh really cause I don't have glide
Jun. 05, 2020  5:12 PM
 
(Jun. 05, 2020  4:14 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Jun. 05, 2020  4:10 PM)bcpaws Wrote: I find that the match switches heavily in imperial's favour if using wheel instead  of blitz
Want me to do it with Wheel?

Go for it i did test it but I didn't record the results
Jun. 05, 2020  9:56 PM
 
(Jun. 05, 2020  5:12 PM)bcpaws Wrote:
(Jun. 05, 2020  4:14 PM)g2_ Wrote: Want me to do it with Wheel?

Go for it i did test it but I didn't record the results

Brave Valkyrie 2A (6 bladed mode) xtend + (defense)vs imperial Achilles Wheel Destroy'

1 Dragon spin
2 Dragon spin
3 Valkyrie burst
4 Valkyrie ring out
5 Valkyrie spin
6 Valkyrie burst
7 Valkyrie spin
8 Dragon ring out. 
9 Valkyrie spin
10 Valkyrie burst 

Valkyrie with 6 bladed had great defense against Imperial's final stage. But Imperial with Wheel had more stamina so it managed to get some out spins. It also has bad burst resistance. Overall Valkyrie had good defense but bad stamina.
Jun. 06, 2020  12:01 AM
 
(Jun. 05, 2020  9:56 PM)g2_ Wrote:
(Jun. 05, 2020  5:12 PM)bcpaws Wrote: Go for it i did test it but I didn't record the results

Brave Valkyrie 2A (6 bladed mode) xtend + (defense)vs imperial Achilles Wheel Destroy'

1 Dragon spin
2 Dragon spin
3 Valkyrie burst
4 Valkyrie ring out
5 Valkyrie spin
6 Valkyrie burst
7 Valkyrie spin
8 Dragon ring out. 
9 Valkyrie spin
10 Valkyrie burst 

Valkyrie with 6 bladed had great defense against Imperial's final stage. But Imperial with Wheel had more stamina so it managed to get some out spins. It also has bad burst resistance. Overall Valkyrie had good defense but bad stamina.
So this is what i have found After some testing and sees one about the modes In the chassis 

6 blade mode for countring same spin good defense but bad Stamina and okay attack
3 blade mode for KO's mainly countring opposite spin avrage defense and good stamina
Jun. 06, 2020  1:12 AM
 
Judging from PapaBey's testing, it's quite the opposite. His testing shows that it's better against Right Spin Beys in 3-Bladed Mode, and only slightly better in 6-Bladed Mode when used against Left Spin Beys.
Jun. 06, 2020  1:16 AM
 
(Jun. 06, 2020  1:12 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: Judging from PapaBey's testing, it's quite the opposite. His testing shows that it's better against Right Spin Beys in 3-Bladed Mode, and only slightly better in 6-Bladed Mode when used against Left Spin Beys.
It's got good Equalizing abilty in 6 bladed mode, decreasing recoil against Zwei, and improving spin stealing against Lord Spriggan and Master Diabolos left.
Jun. 06, 2020  2:39 AM
 
Sooo when can Brave ____ Xtend+ 2S be tested? I’m still waiting
I wanna see if it’s better than 2A on Brave or not.
Jun. 06, 2020  6:27 AM
 
(Jun. 06, 2020  2:39 AM)Orbit Wrote: Sooo when can Brave ____ Xtend+ 2S be tested? I’m still waiting
I wanna see if it’s better than 2A on Brave or not.

How are you "still waiting" if you haven't even asked Needforspeed to test it yet? I think 2S can only be better than 2A if it has better LAD and/or OWD since its shape isn't able to change Brave's shape as much as 2A, but I don't think enough testing has been done to know definitively.
Jun. 06, 2020  3:28 PM
 
I did ask on this thread and more threads, like The mirage Fafnir thread because mirage Fafnir is the way to get 2S. Anyway can someone just test which is better, 2A, and 2S
Jun. 07, 2020  3:41 AM
 
Can someone please just test 2S?
Jun. 07, 2020  4:02 AM
 
(Jun. 07, 2020  3:41 AM)Orbit Wrote: Can someone please just test 2S?

I cant mine will come 16th june in the mean time watch thishttps://youtu.be/fRKdzpIrLBA
Jojo has made a vid about it
Imperial Dragon.Blitz.Xtend+(Defense)vs Brave Hyperion .Xceed 2A(3Blade mode)

IDr.Bl.Xt+ 40% win rate(4 OS)
BHy.Xc 2A 60% win rate(4 KO 1OS)
 
3 blade mode had a hard time bursting imperial but in testing it tossed imperial a lot 
Now for a switch

IDr.Bl.Xt+(defence) vs BHy.Xc 2A(6 blade mode)
IDr.Bl.Xt+ 30% win rate (3 OS)
BHy.Xc 2A 70% win rate (2 burst 3 KO 2 OS)

6 blade mode seems better than 3 blade mode for bursting a same spin opponent i still need some testing tho
Jun. 07, 2020  3:39 PM
 
Yeah I watched it, but I really want to see it with Xtend plus. I would kill to just see Xtend plus slapped onto mirage but I cant find a video except a tip comparison video which disqualified Xtend plus in the first round because it was moving uncontrollably! What mode did he put it in? Attack? Defence? Yeah then if you launch with all your power it’s gonna go fast. What did he expect. I’m still a little made he disqualified Xtend plus without trying it in a battle.
Jun. 07, 2020  3:57 PM
 
(Jun. 07, 2020  3:41 AM)Orbit Wrote: Can someone please just test 2S?
I did, and personally, Valkyrie had better weight distribution AND LAD with 2A.
Jun. 07, 2020  7:59 PM
 
Brave Ragnaruk Keep’ 2A (Six Bladed Mode) Vs Judgement Diabolos Blitz Destroy’
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Jun. 08, 2020  8:24 AM
 
(Jun. 07, 2020  7:59 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Brave Ragnaruk Keep’ 2A (Six Bladed Mode) Vs Judgement Diabolos Blitz Destroy’
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Keep has trash stamina.
Jun. 08, 2020  1:35 PM
 
(Jun. 08, 2020  8:24 AM)g2_ Wrote:
(Jun. 07, 2020  7:59 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Brave Ragnaruk Keep’ 2A (Six Bladed Mode) Vs Judgement Diabolos Blitz Destroy’
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Keep has trash stamina.

Keep’ is not supposed to have great stamina , rather tank KO’s from an attack type opponent and outspin them. Such combos can be useful in deck format where attack types like judgement are common. Although against Destroy’ it doesn’t do very good. I am gonna do the same test later but with Judgement Diabolos on Quick’.
Jun. 08, 2020  1:43 PM
 
(Jun. 08, 2020  1:35 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2020  8:24 AM)g2_ Wrote: Keep has trash stamina.

Keep’ is not supposed to have great stamina , rather tank KO’s from an attack type opponent and outspin them. Such combos can be useful in deck format where attack types like judgement are common. Although against Destroy’ it doesn’t do very good. I am gonna do the same test later but with Judgement Diabolos on Quick’.
I know man , I'm just saying that's why it got outspun.
Jun. 11, 2020  2:05 AM
 
Brave Valkyrie 2S (3 Bladed Mode) Quick' Vs Master Diabolos 0Wall Bearing . 10 rounds, ties redo. 

Results

Brave Valkyrie: 90% (9 KO’s 0 OS’)

Master Diabolos: 10% ( 0 KO's 1 OS’)

2S is simply Blitz but a Chassis. It has an insane attack power combined with Brave. It has much more recoil.
Jun. 11, 2020  4:04 AM
 
So it does have more mobile attack potential than it previously seemed
Jun. 11, 2020  11:48 AM
 
(Jun. 11, 2020  2:05 AM)g2_ Wrote: Brave Valkyrie 2S (3 Bladed Mode) Quick' Vs Master Diabolos 0Wall Bearing . 10 rounds, ties redo. 

Results

Brave Valkyrie: 90% (9 KO’s 0 OS’)

Master Diabolos: 10% ( 0 KO's 1 OS’)

2S is simply Blitz but a Chassis. It has an insane attack power combined with Brave. It has much more recoil.

Was Master in left spin or right spin? B/c those are VERY promising results if it was in left spin.
Jun. 11, 2020  1:34 PM
 
(Jun. 11, 2020  11:48 AM)BladerGem Wrote:
(Jun. 11, 2020  2:05 AM)g2_ Wrote: Brave Valkyrie 2S (3 Bladed Mode) Quick' Vs Master Diabolos 0Wall Bearing . 10 rounds, ties redo. 

Results

Brave Valkyrie: 90% (9 KO’s 0 OS’)

Master Diabolos: 10% ( 0 KO's 1 OS’)

2S is simply Blitz but a Chassis. It has an insane attack power combined with Brave. It has much more recoil.

Was Master in left spin or right spin? B/c those are VERY promising results if it was in left spin.
Left.
Jun. 15, 2020  12:30 PM
 
I have been doing some testing with Brave Valkyrie on 2S myself. I would have to find the test results since I took a break and didn’t save them onto my phone but rather on paper, but Brave Valkyrie did very well on Destroy’, Quick’ and Ul’ against thins like Lord Fafnir/Bahamut. I say it has enough recoil to be used competitively, which is likely what I will do.
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