Assembly update with pics and test / demo videos being sorted too! (need to reduce the quality to acept my internet allowance)
On the whole all parts are what I wanted, few mistakes from designing them about tolerances but I now have a Galeon SL1.0 and one of my own type assembled for battling, haven't weighed them or got the launcher finished yet so I can't give exact data like solo times and weights etc but they are significantly heavier and more powerful than all previous beyblades on the market now.
Pictures inlude both Beys disassembled to show attack ring, sub attack ring, weight disk and spin tip, a copmparison of my plastic Galeon S to my laser Galeon SL1.0 and an assembled view of the launcher.
Soon I should be taking delivery of a batch of Dragoon MSL1.0 and Dranzer MSSL1.0 Attack rings to test out HMS laser parts. I've also started working on a way of making attack rings based upon upper attack as opposed to smash attack to better increase the versatility of laser parts
(Aug. 25, 2013 2:41 AM)Beylon Wrote: Wow, the tolerance on the rings themselves looks great! I had feared they might be a little loose and rattle when in free-spin. Obviously unfounded worries. You'll still be able to construct the beys without the super-sized parts, yes?
Also interesting to hear about the "start" and "end" points of the laser route. Is that something you'll be able to work into future designs? As in, can you tell them where to start and finish the cut?
I'm surprised about the burrs too. I didn't think laser cutting suffered from them. Is that just standard fare with lasers? Holes in thick plates for bolts or rods are always plagued with problems when outsourcing - regardless of the machining method. Lucky they're also the easiest parts to fix.
On the whole I think the parts look great. I'm a big fan of the "raw-material" look too, but I guess you'll be painting them? It's still a little difficult to imagine how that ripcord is going to perform - or how heavy that launcher is! I'm hanging out for a video of a battle to judge spin velocity and solo times - are those two factors a big issue for you? Or is it really just about the look and feel?
I've found 0.1mm gap betweeen all parts seems to work well on small stuff for easy assembly so the sub attack rings have a 38.2mm inner diameter to fit a 38.0mm diameter part, just thing's I've picked up from experience really as it's also down to personal preference. Yeah those supersized nits have now been replaced with an M4 nut each, they only really acted as a spacer and friction of the tip being bolted tight seems to hold all the parts spinning together so I think I can get rid of the locking pins from the centres as they're just extra hassle really I added into the design just incase. The aluminium Galeon ring came out well, a bit rough but better than what I can do from scratch.
It's down to the company cutting parts, dependant on how fast their machine is working and their program that calculates how many parts will fit on a sheet of metal so it's a bit random but you just file the high spot off. Same for the surface finish, the faster companies make their parts the rougher the cut finish will be but this can be filed smooth too. Some companies are better than others at minimalising this but it's a small drawback of laser cutting, inconvinient when it's on a gear as stainless steel isn't very easy to file when it's on the point of a tooth hence it was a bit jerky til the high spot / bur was worn off but it spins well now.
You get burs from the laser bouncing back from the grid the sheet sits on, it's generally very minimal but with the gear it is very obvious due to the closeness of all the cuts but nothing a file can't clean up. It was just an inconvinience having to drill some of the holes then for the launcher having to re-drill all the locating holes bigger as I'd forgotten to check their sizes before ordering so left them at 3mm not 3.2mm but that's learning on my part. The second batch of laser parts I've ordered are coming from a local company this time, getting some HMS attack rings made up to test how they work so hoping they will arrive a bit quicker and this company concentrates more on quality than speed so it's worth it for not paying to deliver parts to pay for better quality. It was only the launcher parts where I had issues as I kept changing the design so much but not checking meticulously through excitement to order.
Thank you! They'll get painted eventually but playing is more important to me as paint will just scratch off eventually. The ripcord works quite well actually, I was very pleased with my rack and gear design so geared up launchers are a definite yes now, it even turns well without the bearings fitted! A blade and launcher together weighs about 500grams at a rough guess, 400 or so being the launcher. I quickly took some demo videos with a comparison battle (bad camera filming though lol) I'm currently working on getting them uploaded to youtube as videos give good evidence of progress. They're made entirely of metal with low friction tips, they'll be an instant improvement over previous beyblade spin times I should hope but they look cool and that's what I wanted. I haven't finished their proper launcher so been giving them gentle launches with a plastic launcher which fits ok so I can't give them a full test and thatt I haven't finished my stadium for them as I uickly tested one against a plastic one and it tried pulling bits of plastic off so not wise to try using these against any plastic parts hence I tried it against an MFB.
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. I never liked the fact that the original series had metal parts but the toys were sold in plastic so I've been waiting 11 years for this lol
