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Jul. 06, 2011  6:45 PM
 
Quick tests.

Hell Kerbecs BD145CS (Boost Mode) VS Scythe Kronos T125EDS (Stamina Mode)
Standard Procedures
Scythe Kronos Win Rate - 90% (9OS)
Jul. 06, 2011  6:59 PM
 
Neat! Is T125 a relatively good height for Stamina on Scythe?

In par against 230, that is.
Jul. 06, 2011  8:05 PM
 
My friend accidentally took my 230, and he's at a sleepaway camp for 4 weeks, so I can't do any 230 tests right now.

I don't know about T125. I just did Scythe Kronos uncustomized. My CS is quite worn though.
Jul. 07, 2011  5:34 AM
 
I can't wait to get mine but here's some request.

MF Scythe 230 CS VS MF Scythe BD145 CS

MF Scythe 230 CS VS MF (NOT MF-H) left spin Perseus ED145 XF
(ignore the language, XF shot like at 0:50 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqogqhfKr6Q)

MF Scythe BD145 CS VS Left spin MF Perseus ED145 XF

MF Scythe BD145 CS VS MF Basalt 230 CS and some attack customs

if basalt wins, switch to 230 instead of using bd145
Jul. 07, 2011  6:10 AM
 
Well i tested its solo spin time it
Scythe Kronos T125EDS(Stamina) Times:
5:10.7
5:06.1
Jul. 07, 2011  11:57 AM
 
(Jul. 07, 2011  6:10 AM)RustyXD Wrote: Well i tested its solo spin time it
Scythe Kronos T125EDS(Stamina) Times:
5:10.7
5:06.1

What launcher did you use ? I did quite a few uncustomized solo spins, I could never reach 5 minutes.
Jul. 07, 2011  12:00 PM
 
TT Beylauncher and 3 Seg Grip Wink I do have a quite strong launch but a black stadium might affect it?
EDIT: I can supply more times soon.
Jul. 07, 2011  2:35 PM
 
Yami I can't do any of them since I don't have a 230 ATM, an extra CS, extra BD145 and an ED145.
Jul. 08, 2011  6:33 AM
 
hmm well i'll do those tests if no one does it before me, still i am waiting for my kronos
Jul. 23, 2011  2:36 AM
 
I will do some testing if you want
Jul. 23, 2011  5:51 AM
 
Score! I just got my Scythe today! I can't do any BD145 tests (My BD145 dissapeared...) and I don't have that many beys but I will do what I can.
Parts I have that might be worth testing:
Spoiler (Click to View)
Jul. 23, 2011  10:09 AM
 
(Jul. 07, 2011  12:00 PM)RustyXD Wrote: TT Beylauncher and 3 Seg Grip Wink I do have a quite strong launch but a black stadium might affect it?
EDIT: I can supply more times soon.

It is made of different material but I believe this would only be a slight difference? Oh, and there is no such thing as a strong launch, to be honest. There is a maximum RPM the launchers can reach. Unless you have a modified Rev Up Launcher, the max you can get is about 4,300. Provided you are both launching at similar power, which shouldn't be hard regardless of age, you're launching at the same power.

A question, does the PC frame actually work in terms of reducing shock?
Jul. 23, 2011  10:16 AM
 
Mushy, people do launch at different power. There is a maximum power the launchers can reach, I'm sure, but I doubt we're actually near hitting that.
Jul. 23, 2011  10:45 AM
 
(Jul. 23, 2011  10:09 AM)Mushy Wrote:
(Jul. 07, 2011  12:00 PM)RustyXD Wrote: TT Beylauncher and 3 Seg Grip Wink I do have a quite strong launch but a black stadium might affect it?
EDIT: I can supply more times soon.

It is made of different material but I believe this would only be a slight difference? Oh, and there is no such thing as a strong launch, to be honest. There is a maximum RPM the launchers can reach. Unless you have a modified Rev Up Launcher, the max you can get is about 4,300. Provided you are both launching at similar power, which shouldn't be hard regardless of age, you're launching at the same power.

A question, does the PC frame actually work in terms of reducing shock?
From my testing, when Scythe is knocked off balance slightly and is tilted, the opposing attacking bey makes contact with the PC frame (in free spinning mode) and the amount of damage it does seems to be minimized smash wise. The bey does not move as far around the stadium when hit on the PC frame compared to the fusion wheel, but it does put scythe increasingly off balance. The contact with the PC frame does also damage the attacking bey it seems, as my LDrago lost quite a bit of spin during its rampage attack on Scythe's PC frame. So I believe it soften smash attacks, but not necessarily helps the bey. Correct me if I am wrong on any of this, I need more testing done and I am new to this field.
Jul. 23, 2011  3:08 PM
 
Can u test Scythe Kronos D125B, versus anyone u think will be a great tester; i think its a great combination, but im not sure of that =), thx in advnce.


Edit; bee cause i think its a great Balance, so, i know the BS, D, OR CS ITS MUCH BETTER xD
Jul. 23, 2011  3:09 PM
 
B is generally outclassed for everything. At the least you will need to explain WHY you think it is great.
Jul. 25, 2011  7:42 AM
 
Here are just some tests to see how scythe performs on various heights and tips:
Notes/Conditions:
Spoiler (Click to View)
ScytheKronosAD145WD vs. EarthBullDF145WD
Scythe Win =100% (all OS)

ScytheKronosAD145WD vs. LightningLDragoSW145MF
Scythe Win = 60% (2 SKO, 7 OS)
LDrago Win = 40% (All KO)

ScytheKronosAD145EDS vs. LightningLDragoSW145MF
Scythe Win = 60% (3 SKO, 6 OS)
LDrago Win = 40% (All KO)

ScytheKronosT125EDS vs. LightningLDragoSW145MF
Scythe Win = 70% (All OS)
LDrago Win = 30% (All KO)

ScytheKronosT125RSF vs. LightningLDragoSW145MF
Scythe Win = 100% (All OS)

ScytheKronos100EDS vs. LightningLDragoSW145MF
Scythe Win = 90% (1 SKO, 8 OS)
LDrago Win = 10% (1 KO)

ScytheKronos100RSF vs. LightningLDragoSW145MF
Scythe Win = 100% (All OS)

My Notes on the Results:
Spoiler (Click to View)
Jul. 25, 2011  8:21 AM
 
OK so I am going to be straight-forward about this. Scythe is ONLY at its best on a low height and in free spinning mode. Scythe with BD145 gets KOed WAY too easily by attackers. However, when you put Scythe on a low track like 90-100, since 85 is just going to make it floor scrape if hit too hard, and then put on a rubber based bottom (D works sometimes), you have yourself a very good defender that protects itself very well using its PC frame and renders many things useless. Putting D on will give it more stamina and with a weak launch, the defense properties will increase. With that said, D will work to maintain stamina. The ideal combo I mean in this case is Scythe Aquario 100D. I can do testing but I think Bluezee already made a video. I'll just post the link here.
Jul. 25, 2011  8:24 AM
 
I find that BD145 works slightly better then 100 , i would test but i don't have time right now i might do some later or something.

Sdamon , where you banking MF ? Scythe 145EDS gets KO'ed quite easily so i would assume AD145 to be the same.
Jul. 25, 2011  8:39 AM
 
Yes, I was banking. I'll re-do the tests and see if anything changes.
Here are the new results for AD145EDS:
ScytheKronosAD145EDS vs. LightningLDragoSW145MF
Scythe Win = 50% (3 OS, 2 SKO)
LDrago Win = 50% (All KO)

I think Scythe must have had some lucky wall shots first time around, but often LDrago knocked Scythe to the edge of the stadium and just ran out of juice to keep spinning after a while. I might be able to post footage if you want?
Jul. 27, 2011  1:35 PM
 
I got my sytche! Smile EDS seems to scarpe quite often, that run round the stadium than self KO. Any one have problems with this? So far im using sytche kronos R145MB.
Jul. 28, 2011  7:30 AM
 
(Jul. 25, 2011  8:21 AM)Spin-Sonic Wrote: OK so I am going to be straight-forward about this. Scythe is ONLY at its best on a low height and in free spinning mode. Scythe with BD145 gets KOed WAY too easily by attackers. However, when you put Scythe on a low track like 90-100, since 85 is just going to make it floor scrape if hit too hard, and then put on a rubber based bottom (D works sometimes), you have yourself a very good defender that protects itself very well using its PC frame and renders many things useless. Putting D on will give it more stamina and with a weak launch, the defense properties will increase. With that said, D will work to maintain stamina. The ideal combo I mean in this case is Scythe Aquario 100D. I can do testing but I think Bluezee already made a video. I'll just post the link here.
if you state that D with a weak launch is good for defense and stamina, why don't use a CS? Its a good stamina and defense track and to keep it low use 85 it will be just about low enough to not floor scrape.
Jul. 28, 2011  7:35 AM
 
i reckon this will be like galeon. gonna be awesome!
Jul. 28, 2011  12:03 PM
 
(Jul. 28, 2011  7:30 AM)stevebak Wrote:
(Jul. 25, 2011  8:21 AM)Spin-Sonic Wrote: OK so I am going to be straight-forward about this. Scythe is ONLY at its best on a low height and in free spinning mode. Scythe with BD145 gets KOed WAY too easily by attackers. However, when you put Scythe on a low track like 90-100, since 85 is just going to make it floor scrape if hit too hard, and then put on a rubber based bottom (D works sometimes), you have yourself a very good defender that protects itself very well using its PC frame and renders many things useless. Putting D on will give it more stamina and with a weak launch, the defense properties will increase. With that said, D will work to maintain stamina. The ideal combo I mean in this case is Scythe Aquario 100D. I can do testing but I think Bluezee already made a video. I'll just post the link here.
if you state that D with a weak launch is good for defense and stamina, why don't use a CS? Its a good stamina and defense track and to keep it low use 85 it will be just about low enough to not floor scrape.

Bolded the one you missed.

As i said, did anyone has problem with EDS going crazy?
Jul. 28, 2011  12:04 PM
 
Post in the EDS discussion ... and don't SPAM by posting the same question twice.

Sdamon Haha I don't think footage is needed , but its great to see you testing mate Grin
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