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Reverse Rotation Burst Beys

Nov. 29, 2015  6:34 PM
 
So I personally love left spin beys, everybody seems like they do. However, I was thinking about burst and left spin burst just doesn't seem like it would work as wouldn't a left spin burst bey just tighten the other bey and vice versa. I would think this because if two right spin beys can burst each other then how would a reverse spinning bey be able to burst another bey or be bursted? I may be completely wrong and if I am please explain, but how I can see it right now a left spin burst bey would just completely take away the burst factor as a win condition.
Nov. 29, 2015  6:37 PM
 
Unless some boxes say "Right rotation" then there won't be any left rotation beyblades

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Nov. 29, 2015  6:38 PM
 
(Nov. 29, 2015  6:37 PM)Meta madness Wrote: Unless some boxes say "Right rotation" then there won't be any left rotation beyblades

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All boxes indeed mention that the Beyblades are right-spin, so yes, there will be left-spin Beyblades in Burst.
Nov. 29, 2015  6:43 PM
 
(Nov. 29, 2015  6:38 PM)Kai-V Wrote:
(Nov. 29, 2015  6:37 PM)Meta madness Wrote: Unless some boxes say "Right rotation" then there won't be any left rotation beyblades

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All boxes indeed mention that the Beyblades are right-spin, so yes, there will be left-spin Beyblades in Burst.

I'm aware of it, I'm personally beginning to worry if the left spinning maybe at the same level as right spinning or will it be OP or UP, since how burst works it could be at level as the rights.

Since in MFB, lefts were given the op treatment so I'm mildly curious on how this system works it out.
Nov. 29, 2015  7:01 PM
 
I really hope they aren't under powered as I just really like left spin beys, but I still want the game to be balanced so hopefully they aren't OP either. I guess time will tell Tongue_out
Nov. 30, 2015  4:31 AM
 
Excalibur has to be left spinning, I'm calling it. Cuz that string launchers design is completely different than the three already released. I know it's been covered just putting it out there that there's a possibility cuz this bey is also going to be owner by a major antagonist in the manga.
Nov. 30, 2015  4:34 AM
 
(Nov. 30, 2015  4:31 AM)BeyStudio Wrote: Excalibur has to be left spinning, I'm calling it.

It would be way too much to have a new release introducing both a flat rubber tip and left-spin at the same time.
Nov. 30, 2015  4:35 AM
 
(Nov. 30, 2015  4:34 AM)Kai-V Wrote:
(Nov. 30, 2015  4:31 AM)BeyStudio Wrote: Excalibur has to be left spinning, I'm calling it.

It would be way too much to have a new release introducing both a flat rubber tip and left-spin at the same time.

Yea that is true it'd be way to OP.
Nov. 30, 2015  5:16 AM
 
(Nov. 30, 2015  4:31 AM)BeyStudio Wrote: Cuz that string launchers design is completely different than the three already released.

It's the same, but yellow.
Nov. 30, 2015  7:09 AM
 
Not sure if this is the right place for it, but what the new series of Burst gave an omnidirectional system upgrade to the current line of beys(like V was to F in Bakuten shoot)?
Nov. 30, 2015  4:08 PM
 
I don't really get what you mean by "omnidirectional system upgrade." Especially since this is a thread about spin direction and, in the case of F to V, there were no changes made regarding spin direction.
Nov. 30, 2015  6:36 PM
 
I think maybe they were talking about what HMS did and just getting the systems wrong.
Nov. 30, 2015  7:43 PM
 
(Nov. 30, 2015  4:08 PM)Bey Brad Wrote: I don't really get what you mean by "omnidirectional system upgrade." Especially since this is a thread about spin direction and, in the case of F to V, there were no changes made regarding spin direction.

I'm talking about a new system where all the beys could spin left and right. I used F to V as a comparison because V's system was noticeably different from F's.
Nov. 30, 2015  7:44 PM
 
I think what he means is being able to change the spin direction, with parts like spin gears.
But considering the way the Beyblades are attached so far, I don't think that will be possible.
Nov. 30, 2015  8:05 PM
 
(Nov. 30, 2015  7:43 PM)Dracieleone Wrote:
(Nov. 30, 2015  4:08 PM)Bey Brad Wrote: I don't really get what you mean by "omnidirectional system upgrade." Especially since this is a thread about spin direction and, in the case of F to V, there were no changes made regarding spin direction.

I'm talking about a new system where all the beys could spin left and right. I used F to V as a comparison because V's system was noticeably different from F's.

Well, we already did get the switch from unidirectional to omnidirectional with G > HMS. I wouldn't say V's system was very different at all, they just changed the SG design to accomodate the magnetic core.
Dec. 01, 2015  1:07 AM
 
Don't forget Gravity Perseus and VariAres from the Metal Fight series, they could be launched in right or left spin, as well.
Dec. 03, 2015  9:19 AM
 
(Nov. 30, 2015  4:34 AM)Kai-V Wrote:
(Nov. 30, 2015  4:31 AM)BeyStudio Wrote: Excalibur has to be left spinning, I'm calling it.

It would be way too much to have a new release introducing both a flat rubber tip and left-spin at the same time.

Unless they're aiming to be surprisingly OP, go big or go home!!
Dec. 03, 2015  3:52 PM
 
We already know it's not left spin.
Dec. 05, 2015  6:26 PM
 
(Nov. 30, 2015  7:44 PM)Neo Wrote: I think what he means is being able to change the spin direction, with parts like spin gears.
But considering the way the Beyblades are attached so far, I don't think that will be possible.

Well it could be something similar in design for the left spinning only beyblades really. Which isn't to bad but once again, over time it could be radically different.
Jan. 14, 2016  11:21 PM
 
I think I've figured out how to make an L/R-spin burst bey, and the dual-layer system is just what I needed.

*NOTE: Keep in mind that this is entirely theoretical as we know net to nothing about the dual-layer system.*

http://imgur.com/AL09US6
Jan. 15, 2016  12:49 AM
 
(Dec. 05, 2015  6:26 PM)Meta madness Wrote:
(Nov. 30, 2015  7:44 PM)Neo Wrote: I think what he means is being able to change the spin direction, with parts like spin gears.
But considering the way the Beyblades are attached so far, I don't think that will be possible.

Well it could be something similar in design for the left spinning only beyblades really. Which isn't to bad but once again, over time it could be radically different.

W8 metas been banned??? nooooo!!!! well anyway the left spin bursts would have to have some kind of different mechanism than the right spins... maybe all the left spins layers are so horrible,that they dont need to be bursted to lose!
Jan. 15, 2016  3:21 AM
 
(Jan. 14, 2016  11:21 PM)Dracieleone Wrote: I think I've figured out how to make an L/R-spin burst bey, and the dual-layer system is just what I needed.

*NOTE: Keep in mind that this is entirely theoretical as we know net to nothing about the dual-layer system.*

http://imgur.com/AL09US6


sorry but what you are saying about where the left spin launcher will prong is wrong coz it's where the right launcher prongs.

if they were to make a Left Spin Beyblade, the upper face will be similar as the Chaos picture that you took showing the under face
Jan. 15, 2016  5:27 AM
 
Not sure if this has been pointed out yet, but all Takara-Tomy has to do to make a Left-Spin Layer is mirror their current Right-Spin Layer design. They'd still also be fully compatible with all currently existing Disks and Drivers.
Jan. 15, 2016  6:32 AM
 
It's not that simple, because the whole Burst gimmick is dependent on spin direction. Let me pull out these old graphics I made for an energy transfer draft. Hopefully, this doesn't sound like I'm doing an ELI5.

[Image: ETRvR.gif]
[Image: ETLvR.gif]

Currently, Burst Beyblades are assembled by rotating the Layer clockwise. This is OK, because the Launcher pushes on the Layer clockwise to make the Beyblade spin, again, clockwise. The Burst gimmick works because when two Beyblades spinning clockwise smash each other, the force of the blow, as seen in the first graphic, is essentially applied counterclockwise: if the blow is strong enough, it unscrews the Layer.

Now take that logic and apply it to a Layer that only has its launcher slits reversed to accommodate a Left Launcher: it still unscrews counterclockwise. If the force applied by the launcher onto the Layer is stronger than the tolerance on the Driver, you'll just unscrew the Beyblade every time you launch.

If you mirror the whole thing and your Layer is actually screwed onto your Beyblade counterclockwise, then you look at the second graphic and you see that you can't burst Beyblades in opposite-spin match-ups, because they push each other in the direction you assemble them in: right spin is pushed clockwise; left spin, counterclockwise.

While I personally would love to see it designed that way, it would certainly seem to go against the central gimmick/philosophy of this series: Bursting. They might introduce it as a gimmick for a Beyblade that 'can't be burst', but it would certainly have a much larger impact than its introduction in MFB.
Jan. 15, 2016  6:39 AM
 
I've tried just for fun against Meteo Ldrago and the bey can burst. but it could be wrong to take that as a fair test because there not in the same generation.
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