New character arc breakdown incoming.
Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts
I swear burst turbo had the best intro and some of the best burst plots. Surge's intro just ruined the whole theme.
(Mar. 27, 2023 8:12 PM)Achilles25 Wrote:(Mar. 27, 2023 8:03 PM)DragonBeyblade! Wrote: I swear burst turbo had the best intro and some of the best burst plots. Surge's intro just ruined the whole theme.
i don't really care much for the lyrical song itself. it doesn't ruin the anime for me at all
Kinda true but im not at any point saying surge was bad, it was pretty good infact and the lyrical song was decent i guess not that bad but what i mean is that it ruined the theme of all the other songs and completey changed it.
(Mar. 27, 2023 6:20 PM)Achilles25 Wrote:(Mar. 27, 2023 5:22 PM)Admiral W Wrote: I'm deciding between about three characters.
Let me hear your options. Maybe I can help you choose.
Valt (I'm definitely doing his if not now, soon. There's more than enough material) Aiger (I have problems with execution with his arc so I'm debating whether to do it) Boa (I need to rewatch his episodes to be sure there's a personal, internal journey I can break down and any lessons it imparts)
I'm really selective about choosing a character to do an arc breakdown on.
(Mar. 27, 2023 8:32 PM)Admiral W Wrote:(Mar. 27, 2023 6:20 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: Let me hear your options. Maybe I can help you choose.
Valt (I'm definitely doing his if not now, soon. There's more than enough material) Aiger (I have problems with execution with his arc so I'm debating whether to do it) Boa (I need to rewatch his episodes to be sure there's a personal, internal journey I can break down and any lessons it imparts)
I'm really selective about choosing a character to do an arc breakdown on.
I would probably go with Valt since out of the 3 you definitely know Valt the best plus he has more than enough material like you said before. He seems like the best straight forward option.
why every burst protagonist so goofy
(Mar. 27, 2023 8:32 PM)Admiral W Wrote:(Mar. 27, 2023 6:20 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: Let me hear your options. Maybe I can help you choose.
Valt (I'm definitely doing his if not now, soon. There's more than enough material) Aiger (I have problems with execution with his arc so I'm debating whether to do it) Boa (I need to rewatch his episodes to be sure there's a personal, internal journey I can break down and any lessons it imparts)
I'm really selective about choosing a character to do an arc breakdown on.
Witw. Do Aiger. Best written MC to come out the franchise imo. I already did my own breakdown on him. But you should do one yourself. Boa is good. Fubuki is also a great choice.
(Mar. 27, 2023 9:15 PM)Achilles25 Wrote:(Mar. 27, 2023 8:32 PM)Admiral W Wrote: Valt (I'm definitely doing his if not now, soon. There's more than enough material) Aiger (I have problems with execution with his arc so I'm debating whether to do it) Boa (I need to rewatch his episodes to be sure there's a personal, internal journey I can break down and any lessons it imparts)
I'm really selective about choosing a character to do an arc breakdown on.
Witw. Do Aiger. Best written MC to come out the franchise imo. I already did my own breakdown on him. But you should do one yourself. Boa is good. Fubuki is also a great choice.
I have to disagree with you there. Unfortunately I strongly believe they fumbled Aiger's character arc in the execution. Tying his arc to the Deus ex machina plot device of the dark resonance dilutes the arc. As far MC's go I'd definitely say Valt is the best written in the franchise for a number of reasons I'll go into in my arc breakdown for him. I'd like to see the breakdown you did of Aiger though. Link it if you can. I like Fubuki, but I'm not sure how material is really there on an internal level for me to really explore. He trained and got stronger under the tutelage of Shu but I don't see a real internal journey there.
(Mar. 27, 2023 11:14 PM)Admiral W Wrote:(Mar. 27, 2023 9:15 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: Witw. Do Aiger. Best written MC to come out the franchise imo. I already did my own breakdown on him. But you should do one yourself. Boa is good. Fubuki is also a great choice.
I have to disagree with you there. Unfortunately I strongly believe they fumbled Aiger's character arc in the execution. Tying his arc to the Deus ex machina plot device of the dark resonance dilutes the arc. As far MC's go I'd definitely say Valt is the best written in the franchise for a number of reasons I'll go into in my arc breakdown for him. I'd like to see the breakdown you did of Aiger though. Link it if you can. I like Fubuki, but I'm not sure how material is really there on an internal level for me to really explore. He trained and got stronger under the tutelage of Shu but I don't see a real internal journey there.
alright. Also you could do a dual with Suoh and Fubuki as they have dynamics together. Fubuki got over his fear of losing whereas Suoh was afraid of Fubuki getting stronger. this is just the base idea and it could be better worded.
(Mar. 28, 2023 1:26 AM)Achilles25 Wrote:Really meaningful character arcs are formed when characters really have personal, internal struggles they have to overcome and lessons they have to learn.(Mar. 27, 2023 11:14 PM)Admiral W Wrote: I have to disagree with you there. Unfortunately I strongly believe they fumbled Aiger's character arc in the execution. Tying his arc to the Deus ex machina plot device of the dark resonance dilutes the arc. As far MC's go I'd definitely say Valt is the best written in the franchise for a number of reasons I'll go into in my arc breakdown for him. I'd like to see the breakdown you did of Aiger though. Link it if you can. I like Fubuki, but I'm not sure how material is really there on an internal level for me to really explore. He trained and got stronger under the tutelage of Shu but I don't see a real internal journey there.
alright. Also you could do a dual with Suoh and Fubuki as they have dynamics together. Fubuki got over his fear of losing whereas Suoh was afraid of Fubuki getting stronger. this is just the base idea and it could be better worded.
What personal internal journey do they have to undergo to move forward as people, and as bladers? It's that personal internal journey that I'm interested in because that's what forms the basis for a meaningful character arc.
For Daigo it was overcoming guilt, for Silas it was finding belonging, for Ken it was forming connection, and for Arman it was coming to believe in his own value. Each of them and the other characters whose character arcs I broke down had an internal personal journey that was really separate from growing in Blading strength. They later connected to Blading, but it's the growth through the arc, them growing as people, that allowed them to progress in Blading. It's that personal growth that I'm interested in when I do character arc breakdowns.
It's really that growth and change on a personal level that forms the real meat of a character arc.
I don't think Fubuki or Suoh really have that.
(Mar. 28, 2023 2:19 AM)Admiral W Wrote:(Mar. 28, 2023 1:26 AM)Achilles25 Wrote: alright. Also you could do a dual with Suoh and Fubuki as they have dynamics together. Fubuki got over his fear of losing whereas Suoh was afraid of Fubuki getting stronger. this is just the base idea and it could be better worded.Really meaningful character arcs are formed when characters really have personal, internal struggles they have to overcome and lessons they have to learn.
What personal internal journey do they have to undergo to move forward as people, and as bladers? It's that personal internal journey that I'm interested in because that's what forms the basis for a meaningful character arc.
For Daigo it was overcoming guilt, for Silas it was finding belonging, for Ken it was forming connection, and for Arman it was coming to believe in his own value. Each of them and the other characters whose character arcs I broke down had an internal personal journey that was really separate from growing in Blading strength. They later connected to Blading, but it's the growth through the arc, them growing as people, that allowed them to progress in Blading. It's that personal growth that I'm interested in when I do character arc breakdowns.
It's really that growth and change on a personal level that forms the real meat of a character arc.
I don't think Fubuki or Suoh really have that.
ahh i see. well i do, i had just finished my cho-z rewatch there was something about them. i see it.
(Mar. 28, 2023 3:34 AM)Achilles25 Wrote:(Mar. 28, 2023 2:19 AM)Admiral W Wrote: Really meaningful character arcs are formed when characters really have personal, internal struggles they have to overcome and lessons they have to learn.
What personal internal journey do they have to undergo to move forward as people, and as bladers? It's that personal internal journey that I'm interested in because that's what forms the basis for a meaningful character arc.
For Daigo it was overcoming guilt, for Silas it was finding belonging, for Ken it was forming connection, and for Arman it was coming to believe in his own value. Each of them and the other characters whose character arcs I broke down had an internal personal journey that was really separate from growing in Blading strength. They later connected to Blading, but it's the growth through the arc, them growing as people, that allowed them to progress in Blading. It's that personal growth that I'm interested in when I do character arc breakdowns.
It's really that growth and change on a personal level that forms the real meat of a character arc.
I don't think Fubuki or Suoh really have that.
ahh i see. well i do, i had just finished my cho-z rewatch there was something about them. i see it.
I'm not seeing the personal internal journey that really forms the meat of a meaningful character arc, if there's something there that interest you, of course you can do your own breakdown for those characters.
I like the new episodes they seem fresh and clean!!!
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I've been rewatching Shogun Steel and you know, the idea of a Zero G Stadium is actually pretty cool. Too bad it never got used again.
(Mar. 18, 2022 4:07 AM)Achilles25 Wrote: List best to worst burst seasons in order.
Mines is
1. Evolution
2. Turbo
Tied for 3. Season 1
Tied for 3. Rise
4. Surge
5. DB
Super late to this but I like your list, similar to mines; Best to worst burst seasons for me are:
1. Turbo
2. God
3. Burst
4. Sparking
5. DB
6. Gachi
(Mar. 24, 2022 8:40 PM)UnseenBurst Wrote: Since Burst is now finished. I want to do something special so I'll be giving my opinion on all the seasons in 5 Words or less.
S1: Burst: Actually Releastic! No Plot Armor!
S2 God: Valt Development and Champion! Yes!!
S3 Cho Z: Amazing Battles. No like Aiga.
S4 GT: Good Slow Paced Season! Nice!
S5 Sparking: Ew. Too Much Plot Armor.
S6 DB: Rushed. Ew Tour. Manga better.
Sorry if I offended you in any of these. It's my opinion and I just am speaking my truth.
Late reply and not trying to start anything but I feel like Valt had some plot armor during the first few episodes in Burst but that's just me.
(Apr. 02, 2023 11:54 AM)ScarletTurbo44 Wrote:(Mar. 18, 2022 4:07 AM)Achilles25 Wrote: List best to worst burst seasons in order.
Mines is
1. Evolution
2. Turbo
Tied for 3. Season 1
Tied for 3. Rise
4. Surge
5. DB
Super late to this but I like your list, similar to mines; Best to worst burst seasons for me are:
1. Turbo
2. God
3. Burst
4. Sparking
5. DB
6. Gachi
(Mar. 24, 2022 8:40 PM)UnseenBurst Wrote: Since Burst is now finished. I want to do something special so I'll be giving my opinion on all the seasons in 5 Words or less.
S1: Burst: Actually Releastic! No Plot Armor!
S2 God: Valt Development and Champion! Yes!!
S3 Cho Z: Amazing Battles. No like Aiga.
S4 GT: Good Slow Paced Season! Nice!
S5 Sparking: Ew. Too Much Plot Armor.
S6 DB: Rushed. Ew Tour. Manga better.
Sorry if I offended you in any of these. It's my opinion and I just am speaking my truth.
Late reply and not trying to start anything but I feel like Valt had some plot armor during the first few episodes in Burst but that's just me.
Plot armor is necessary in a story. The thing is the writers don't have to use it too much, and yes, Valt had plot armor (because natural talent, same for Aiga), if he lost every of each battle, the story would have been boring as hell
(Apr. 02, 2023 1:06 PM)PlayMaker:Axel Wrote:(Apr. 02, 2023 11:54 AM)ScarletTurbo44 Wrote: Super late to this but I like your list, similar to mines; Best to worst burst seasons for me are:
1. Turbo
2. God
3. Burst
4. Sparking
5. DB
6. Gachi
Late reply and not trying to start anything but I feel like Valt had some plot armor during the first few episodes in Burst but that's just me.
Plot armor is necessary in a story. The thing is the writers don't have to use it too much, and yes, Valt had plot armor (because natural talent, same for Aiga), if he lost every of each battle, the story would have been boring as hell
I fully agree, plot armor is important in the story, every mc had it at least once at one point or another in their respective seasons. It's nice to see others actually acknowledge this.
Sorry to say this, but GT/Rise would have been considered a bad season too if Free, Lui and Shu were presented and not faces like Fumiya and Lodin. The writers want the main character to win in their seasons, so if Dante had beaten those three in Season 4, the same hate fans gave on Aiga, Lain and Bell would have gone the same on Dante Koryu. The majority of the fanbase cannot accept seeing The Big Three "Lui, Free and Shu" got beaten up by newbies who is not Valt Aoi and claiming the other protagonists or antagonists who burst the Legends Beys as "using plot armors" and "not working hard like Valt." And trust me, their next target will be Quadra (Pri Forsythe), if the new girl wins against either Ken or Xander. Funny though, came across another new "I hate Aiger" post on reddit yesterday, geez we are about to enter Season 7 and already passed a few years after Turbo and there are still people complaining about Aiga, don't know why people can't move on from that.
(Apr. 02, 2023 1:17 PM)ScarletTurbo44 Wrote:(Apr. 02, 2023 1:06 PM)PlayMaker:Axel Wrote: Plot armor is necessary in a story. The thing is the writers don't have to use it too much, and yes, Valt had plot armor (because natural talent, same for Aiga), if he lost every of each battle, the story would have been boring as hell
I fully agree, plot armor is important in the story, every mc had it at least once at one point or another in their respective seasons. It's nice to see others actually acknowledge this.
(Apr. 02, 2023 1:46 PM)VillainorHero78 Wrote: Sorry to say this, but GT/Rise would have been considered a bad season too if Free, Lui and Shu were presented and not faces like Fumiya and Lodin. The writers want the main character to win in their seasons, so if Dante had beaten those three in Season 4, the same hate fans gave on Aiga, Lain and Bell would have gone the same on Dante Koryu. The majority of the fanbase cannot accept seeing The Big Three "Lui, Free and Shu" got beaten up by newbies who is not Valt Aoi and claiming the other protagonists or antagonists who burst the Legends Beys as "using plot armors" and "not working hard like Valt." And trust me, their next target will be Quadra (Pri Forsythe), if the new girl wins against either Ken or Xander. Funny though, came across another new "I hate Aiger" post on reddit yesterday, geez we are about to enter Season 7 and already passed a few years after Turbo and there are still people complaining about Aiga, don't know why people can't move on from that.
True, Hopefully people won't hate on Quadra for beating Ken or the past MCs but if she beats Valt... I pray for her(cuz some fans will be up in arms). And yea, that's one thing that still surprises me too how fans can still hate Aiga now for how his character was in the past despite him growing out of his past flaws. Turbo will be half a decade old and people still can't just let it go but I'm not holding anything against them, as everyone is rightfully entitled to their own opinion.