With gwyn Reynolds beyblades now break the canonical laws of physics instead of just looking impossible.

I think Shu is probably my favourite (with Lui coming in with a very close second).
I wont add the same old members because then it would literally be the same but with valt replacing zac so:
1. Valt
2. Free
3. Wakiya
4. Rantaro (I hate him but he's an OG)

You cant really put free since his european and stays theirs as well.  Better put Daina or Ken even others thats more an Japan remember supreme 4 is a national Japan group.

OK yeah, you're right lol

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Am I the only person who got backstabbed by rashad?

I think users cannot delete their posts.

Also, your last post was from December the twenty-sixth. If you have something that you believe is worthwhile to post, then of course double posts can be accepted sometimes. If you were to constantly post immediately after your messages, there could be an issue, however the current situation would have probably been fine.

You can edit your post, and this way you can either replace or delete it, but yeah, no deleting.

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Random Thought: Who would win, Valt or Ginka this is based on their skill and strength and strategys, basically if Ginka was in burst or if valt was in metal.

Does gingka have everybody's bladers spirit? On his own I generally think he might lose but with blader's spirit he is unstoppable.

I think users cannot delete their posts.

Also, your last post was from December the twenty-sixth. If you have something that you believe is worthwhile to post, then of course double posts can be accepted sometimes. If you were to constantly post immediately after your messages, there could be an issue, however the current situation would have probably been fine.

You can edit your post, and this way you can either replace or delete it, but yeah, no deleting.

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Random Thought: Who would win, Valt or Ginka this is based on their skill and strength and strategys, basically if Ginka was in burst or if valt was in metal.

Does gingka have everybody's bladers spirit? On his own I generally think he might lose but with blader's spirit he is unstoppable.

Gingka and Valt with everyones Blader's Spirit solos most anime verses.

Favorite Big Five line up?

The one after evolution is my favorite personally.

1. Valt Aoi
2. Shu Kurenai
3. Free De La Hoya
4. Lui Shirosagi
5. Silas Karlise

Favorite Big Five line up?

The one after evolution is my favorite personally.

1. Valt Aoi
2. Shu Kurenai
3. Free De La Hoya
4. Lui Shirosagi
5. Silas Karlise

I like the one after turbo. I know some people don't like aiger, and I definitely like Valt more, but I think I like aiger being up there.

Favorite Big Five line up?

The one after evolution is my favorite personally.

1. Valt Aoi
2. Shu Kurenai
3. Free De La Hoya
4. Lui Shirosagi
5. Silas Karlise

I like the one after turbo. I know some people don't like aiger, and I definitely like Valt more, but I think I like aiger being up there.

We don't really know the whole Big Five lineup from after Turbo. In either event Valt being Number 1 is as it should be.

I wonder, like, lore-wise, how come aiger isn't number one since he beat valt in a very official tournament? I like Valt more and he should be on top, but you can't just make him the champ without showing him winning, which I would VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE.

I wonder, like, lore-wise, how come aiger isn't number one since he beat valt in a very official tournament? I like Valt more and he should be on top, but you can't just make him the champ without showing him winning, which I would VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE.

After GT when the “Legend Rankings” (S rank and below) was put into place it became the new official ranking And due to its creation the champion title was separated from the no.1 rank. So Valt just simply made his way back up to the top since sparking is a year from GT and on the other hand Valt did win the world tournament for the second time after GT. (Sorry if i didnt do the best at explaining).

I wonder, like, lore-wise, how come aiger isn't number one since he beat valt in a very official tournament? I like Valt more and he should be on top, but you can't just make him the champ without showing him winning, which I would VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE.

After GT when the “Legend Rankings” (S rank and below) was put into place it became the new official ranking And due to its creation the champion title was separated from the no.1 rank. So Valt just simply made his way back up to the top since sparking is a year from GT and on the other hand Valt did win the world tournament for the second time after GT. (Sorry if i didnt do the best at explaining).

It makes Sense.

I like the one after turbo. I know some people don't like aiger, and I definitely like Valt more, but I think I like aiger being up there.

We don't really know the whole Big Five lineup from after Turbo. In either event Valt being Number 1 is as it should be.

1. Aiger
2. Valt 
3. Phi
4. Shu 
5. Free

I know Ive said this many times already but Id like to say it here (I dont think I have done it before)

Im pretty sure Im not the only one who thought this -- Beys breaking in Beyblade Burst ended up becoming tiring and unsurprising really quickly. And honestly, Im surprised some people are still react strongly when it happens (though to be fair, the character is happens to is also a factor in the shock). When I saw the scene in Season 1 where Shu's Beyblade broke, that was surprising to me. As the series progresses, multiple characters get their Beys destroyed and the amount of shock decreases. To me, an incident like that just loses value and I eventually stop caring. Yet I still find it funny when the characters react so badly to it, as if its an entirely new concept to them or like they cant get a new Bey

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We don't really know the whole Big Five lineup from after Turbo. In either event Valt being Number 1 is as it should be.

1. Aiger
2. Valt 
3. Phi
4. Shu 
5. Free

That was never an official ranking. The ranking after Turbo was very murky.

I know Ive said this many times already but Id like to say it here (I dont think I have done it before)

Im pretty sure Im not the only one who thought this -- Beys breaking in Beyblade Burst ended up becoming tiring and unsurprising really quickly. And honestly, Im surprised some people are still react strongly when it happens (though to be fair, the character is happens to is also a factor in the shock). When I saw the scene in Season 1 where Shu's Beyblade broke, that was surprising to me. As the series progresses, multiple characters get their Beys destroyed and the amount of shock decreases. To me, an incident like that just loses value and I eventually stop caring. Yet I still find it funny when the characters react so badly to it, as if its an entirely new concept to them or like they cant get a new Bey

When helios and hyperion broke, I really didn't care. "Cool, they get new evo's now." But in quaddrive it felt a little sadder when Belfyre broke because 1. Belfyre was a more fleshed out character and 2. Something about Bel seemed like he wouldn't be just able to pick himself up. In the manga I think they manage to make beys breaking sadder, like apparently in the manga Hikaru just played soccer after Helios broke.

After rewatching burst i think what bugs me a lot right now about the burst world is how they potray the hierarchy such as Big 5, GT3, Z4, ect after season 1. 

To elaborate on this In season 2 the big five were introduce as this huge steping stone for valt to beat but most of them just lose in 1 match againts valt and in an underwhealming way imo which undervalues the importance that this title should've had like both ruway and joshua should've be beaten at least with valt struggling more but here valt just screams his way out, and even in the god bladers cup arc these bladers just feel like fodders which again kills the hype of them being the "BIG 5" this also applies to GT3, Z4, and the legends but in a diffrent way for each.

Do i mind for these top bladers to be beaten early? Yes i do but i think personally they should've be at least be beaten in a way that can satisfy us like let's make Valt beat ruway in a tactical way this way we can see valt progression in his way of making strategies beating the one who is at the top or let's make Valt beat Joshua in a luck based way this could be an irony to how joshua has been lucky with his win over Daina.

1. Aiger
2. Valt 
3. Phi
4. Shu 
5. Free

That was never an official ranking. The ranking after Turbo was very murky.

True but we can just go off by interpretation and by interpretation the 5 best bladers by the end of Turbo this is the final list. And it seems accurate.

After rewatching burst i think what bugs me a lot right now about the burst world is how they potray the hierarchy such as Big 5, GT3, Z4, ect after season 1. 

To elaborate on this In season 2 the big five were introduce as this huge steping stone for valt to beat but most of them just lose in 1 match againts valt and in an underwhealming way imo which undervalues the importance that this title should've had like both ruway and joshua should've be beaten at least with valt struggling more but here valt just screams his way out, and even in the god bladers cup arc these bladers just feel like fodders which again kills the hype of them being the "BIG 5" this also applies to GT3, Z4, and the legends but in a diffrent way for each.

Do i mind for these top bladers to be beaten early? Yes i do but i think personally they should've be at least be beaten in a way that can satisfy us like let's make Valt beat ruway in a tactical way this way we can see valt progression in his way of making strategies beating the one who is at the top or let's make Valt beat Joshua in a luck based way this could be an irony to how joshua has been lucky with his win over Daina.

I always said that the supreme 4 was the best group to he introduce cause the felt and were strong barely loses, in fact the only lost between themselves (aside from Valt to be the only outside to beat 2 out of them barely), but by the End the supreme 4 still felt very poweeful with Valt into the mixed their were still top 5. Now season i had that same issue you had lui and free Heavely carried the big 5, while the rest only look like the were their to fill the spot mainly Joshua and Ruway they were underwhelming an it doesnt help when you know that Shu or kurtz were stronger and better them both. Even Boa was better than Ruway when you look at the big five you question why not just make red eye the rank 3 to actually make the big 5 threating and add boa or even sisco to replace joshua since god Seems to did the the top 5 or specialist of each type with one repeating one type. Shu was a balance type while both sisco or boa were defense type perfect to replace joshua and Ruway, the 5th can still be xhaka or either joshua or Ruway but make the top 4 look strong. Now z4 i didnt care phi was the only real strong one to the point i was like why not just make him a big 5 with the first top 4?. Hearts was Cool and both laban and Xhan was just their they were good but never felt like this big wall to surpassed. Gt3 was the same they didnt feel strong at all aside from Delta. The supreme 4 really had put the bar high for the rest and still stay as the supreme top group

After rewatching burst i think what bugs me a lot right now about the burst world is how they potray the hierarchy such as Big 5, GT3, Z4, ect after season 1. 

To elaborate on this In season 2 the big five were introduce as this huge steping stone for valt to beat but most of them just lose in 1 match againts valt and in an underwhealming way imo which undervalues the importance that this title should've had like both ruway and joshua should've be beaten at least with valt struggling more but here valt just screams his way out, and even in the god bladers cup arc these bladers just feel like fodders which again kills the hype of them being the "BIG 5" this also applies to GT3, Z4, and the legends but in a diffrent way for each.

Do i mind for these top bladers to be beaten early? Yes i do but i think personally they should've be at least be beaten in a way that can satisfy us like let's make Valt beat ruway in a tactical way this way we can see valt progression in his way of making strategies beating the one who is at the top or let's make Valt beat Joshua in a luck based way this could be an irony to how joshua has been lucky with his win over Daina.

I always said that the supreme 4 was the best group to he introduce cause the felt and were strong barely loses, in fact the only lost between themselves (aside from Valt to be the only outside to beat 2 out of them barely), but by the End the supreme 4 still felt very poweeful with Valt into the mixed their were still top 5. Now season i had that same issue you had lui and free Heavely carried the big 5, while the rest only look like the were their to fill the spot mainly Joshua and Ruway they were underwhelming an it doesnt help when you know that Shu or kurtz were stronger and better them both. Even Boa was better than Ruway when you look at the big five you question why not just make red eye the rank 3 to actually make the big 5 threating and add boa or even sisco to replace joshua since god Seems to did the the top 5 or specialist of each type with one repeating one type. Shu was a balance type while both sisco or boa were defense type perfect to replace joshua and Ruway, the 5th can still be xhaka or either joshua or Ruway but make the top 4 look strong. Now z4 i didnt care phi was the only real strong one to the point i was like why not just make him a big 5 with the first top 4?. Hearts was Cool and both laban and Xhan was just their they were good but never felt like this big wall to surpassed. Gt3 was the same they didnt feel strong at all aside from Delta. The supreme 4 really had put the bar high for the rest and still stay as the supreme top group

Spin emperors: Yea the Spin emperors were definitely the best group that they introduced. all of them from start to end never lost that sense/feeling of being the big dogs of japan since the only one that beat them was Valt, others got close here and there but they still pulled through and showed that when they really push themselves they release all the stops. We also get background info for each character that makes them feel like legitimate characters who has their own reasons to push themselves instead of generic “were strong because the story needs us to”. And a majority of the spin emperors if not all of them are legendary bladers which shows that they still got it unlike big 5 (old) and future groups.

Big 5 (old): this one might be the most disappointing group. Free and Lui were the ones that carried the group everyone else (besides xander) felt pretty weak honestly after their debut. As they practically lost to everyone after Valt, they never gave off that sense of being one of the worlds best after that. The only ones that kept that feeling was Lui and Free and even though xander wasn't a member anymore he was still a powerhouse that fought the good fight until the end. Joshu and renwu were the weakest links im suprised how Xander was 5th.

Big 5 (new): not much to say besides this has the best line up of bladers. Kept 2 og members of the big 5 that were extreme powerhouses and added 3 new members who definitely earned those spots by pushing themselves past their limits with every rival and teammate they they came across. Wanting to show the world that they would be the ones to rise to the top. And now All these bladers are legends.

And every other group after that was pretty ok not much to say. The Z4 wasnt really focused on much like yea they were strong but never felt like this big challenge that had to be surpassed. Besides phi the dude was a menace to the world. The gt 3 i dont really have much love for. They were called strong bladers but lost almost all their battles (BESIDES Delta went head to head with the champion with a good possibility of winning and dominated his opponents)

Kurt Baratier was the champ for a few years but had to quit because he was SO POWERFUL that no one could give him a good fight. We haven't seen him since evolution (technically turbo). I remember I bought my khalzar because of this guy's impressive background. And yet, he was abandoned, very similar to the big 5.

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I always said that the supreme 4 was the best group to he introduce cause the felt and were strong barely loses, in fact the only lost between themselves (aside from Valt to be the only outside to beat 2 out of them barely), but by the End the supreme 4 still felt very poweeful with Valt into the mixed their were still top 5. Now season i had that same issue you had lui and free Heavely carried the big 5, while the rest only look like the were their to fill the spot mainly Joshua and Ruway they were underwhelming an it doesnt help when you know that Shu or kurtz were stronger and better them both. Even Boa was better than Ruway when you look at the big five you question why not just make red eye the rank 3 to actually make the big 5 threating and add boa or even sisco to replace joshua since god Seems to did the the top 5 or specialist of each type with one repeating one type. Shu was a balance type while both sisco or boa were defense type perfect to replace joshua and Ruway, the 5th can still be xhaka or either joshua or Ruway but make the top 4 look strong. Now z4 i didnt care phi was the only real strong one to the point i was like why not just make him a big 5 with the first top 4?. Hearts was Cool and both laban and Xhan was just their they were good but never felt like this big wall to surpassed. Gt3 was the same they didnt feel strong at all aside from Delta. The supreme 4 really had put the bar high for the rest and still stay as the supreme top group

Definitely agreed on this, The 4 spin emperor (nice one piece Yonkou reference) is what define a Top ranking bladers should be like. They are strong, potrayed as an unbeatable Emperors, and how Valt aka the main character beat each one of them is what makes them more compelling than Big 5, Z4, GT3, and the legends even. Like how valt beat zack is an irony to how zack manages to win against valt in the past or how valt beats Xhaka his all time biggest wall to surpass.

It is definitely ashame that the other groups feels very uneeded like even the legends ranking in sparking and DB to some dagree follows this. They only potrayed as strong at their "debut episodes" and then proceed to be beaten by screaming power up like c'mon these guys are called the legends make them lose in a grand way, we don't want to see them having this title just becuase the writer says so.

still in this topic i think the term "titles" season 1 afterwards like the strategist, the world strongest, wind master and ect serve nothing in the story like a cool way to use this could've been making it as so as they are a key development for our MC to overcome like it would be cool if the term champion was used again in DB it would make Bell have a clear goal to reach other than "ah yes me want to be the best" like whats is even defined as the best? like valt was the best but he was potrayed as a fodder?

I think users cannot delete their posts.

Also, your last post was from December the twenty-sixth. If you have something that you believe is worthwhile to post, then of course double posts can be accepted sometimes. If you were to constantly post immediately after your messages, there could be an issue, however the current situation would have probably been fine.

You can edit your post, and this way you can either replace or delete it, but yeah, no deleting.

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Random Thought: Who would win, Valt or Ginka this is based on their skill and strength and strategys, basically if Ginka was in burst or if valt was in metal.

Does gingka have everybody's bladers spirit? On his own I generally think he might lose but with blader's spirit he is unstoppable.

You can edit your post, and this way you can either replace or delete it, but yeah, no deleting.

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Does gingka have everybody's bladers spirit? On his own I generally think he might lose but with blader's spirit he is unstoppable.

Gingka and Valt with everyones Blader's Spirit solos most anime verses.

The spirit blader boost that Gingka got was only a temporary boost given by all his friends and other people who believed in him. It was only a power granted for some time to make it possible to defeat Rago

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Please try out my Fan Fics:
FBW saga (First Blader War)

Scion of the Legends (The Dark Forsworn Series)

Note: I'm falling apart from reading many posts from people who are leaving or are going to be inactive.

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I always said that the supreme 4 was the best group to he introduce cause the felt and were strong barely loses, in fact the only lost between themselves (aside from Valt to be the only outside to beat 2 out of them barely), but by the End the supreme 4 still felt very poweeful with Valt into the mixed their were still top 5. Now season i had that same issue you had lui and free Heavely carried the big 5, while the rest only look like the were their to fill the spot mainly Joshua and Ruway they were underwhelming an it doesnt help when you know that Shu or kurtz were stronger and better them both. Even Boa was better than Ruway when you look at the big five you question why not just make red eye the rank 3 to actually make the big 5 threating and add boa or even sisco to replace joshua since god Seems to did the the top 5 or specialist of each type with one repeating one type. Shu was a balance type while both sisco or boa were defense type perfect to replace joshua and Ruway, the 5th can still be xhaka or either joshua or Ruway but make the top 4 look strong. Now z4 i didnt care phi was the only real strong one to the point i was like why not just make him a big 5 with the first top 4?. Hearts was Cool and both laban and Xhan was just their they were good but never felt like this big wall to surpassed. Gt3 was the same they didnt feel strong at all aside from Delta. The supreme 4 really had put the bar high for the rest and still stay as the supreme top group

Definitely agreed on this, The 4 spin emperor (nice one piece Yonkou reference) is what define a Top ranking bladers should be like. They are strong, potrayed as an unbeatable Emperors, and how Valt aka the main character beat each one of them is what makes them more compelling than Big 5, Z4, GT3, and the legends even. Like how valt beat zack is an irony to how zack manages to win against valt in the past or how valt beats Xhaka his all time biggest wall to surpass.

It is definitely ashame that the other groups feels very uneeded like even the legends ranking in sparking and DB to some dagree follows this. They only potrayed as strong at their "debut episodes" and then proceed to be beaten by screaming power up like c'mon these guys are called the legends make them lose in a grand way, we don't want to see them having this title just becuase the writer says so.

still in this topic i think the term "titles" season 1 afterwards like the strategist, the world strongest, wind master and ect serve nothing in the story like a cool way to use this could've been making it as so as they are a key development for our MC to overcome like it would be cool if the term champion was used again in DB it would make Bell have a clear goal to reach other than "ah yes me want to be the best" like whats is even defined as the best? like valt was the best but he was potrayed as a fodder?

Valt only lost because he didn't have quaddrive. He beat Bel when he had a quad bey. Also, Bel kinda doesn't care what other people rank stuff, he was undefeated, so he was the best.

Definitely agreed on this, The 4 spin emperor (nice one piece Yonkou reference) is what define a Top ranking bladers should be like. They are strong, potrayed as an unbeatable Emperors, and how Valt aka the main character beat each one of them is what makes them more compelling than Big 5, Z4, GT3, and the legends even. Like how valt beat zack is an irony to how zack manages to win against valt in the past or how valt beats Xhaka his all time biggest wall to surpass.

It is definitely ashame that the other groups feels very uneeded like even the legends ranking in sparking and DB to some dagree follows this. They only potrayed as strong at their "debut episodes" and then proceed to be beaten by screaming power up like c'mon these guys are called the legends make them lose in a grand way, we don't want to see them having this title just becuase the writer says so.

still in this topic i think the term "titles" season 1 afterwards like the strategist, the world strongest, wind master and ect serve nothing in the story like a cool way to use this could've been making it as so as they are a key development for our MC to overcome like it would be cool if the term champion was used again in DB it would make Bell have a clear goal to reach other than "ah yes me want to be the best" like whats is even defined as the best? like valt was the best but he was potrayed as a fodder?

Valt only lost because he didn't have quaddrive. He beat Bel when he had a quad bey. Also, Bel kinda doesn't care what other people rank stuff, he was undefeated, so he was the best.

Honestly, I like Valt as a character with oustanding character development (something I didn't expect from burst tbh) but I think it was their idea from the very first burst season that they would make Valt as the ultimate blader.

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Please try out my Fan Fics:
FBW saga (First Blader War)

Scion of the Legends (The Dark Forsworn Series)

Note: I'm falling apart from reading many posts from people who are leaving or are going to be inactive.

Definitely agreed on this, The 4 spin emperor (nice one piece Yonkou reference) is what define a Top ranking bladers should be like. They are strong, potrayed as an unbeatable Emperors, and how Valt aka the main character beat each one of them is what makes them more compelling than Big 5, Z4, GT3, and the legends even. Like how valt beat zack is an irony to how zack manages to win against valt in the past or how valt beats Xhaka his all time biggest wall to surpass.

It is definitely ashame that the other groups feels very uneeded like even the legends ranking in sparking and DB to some dagree follows this. They only potrayed as strong at their "debut episodes" and then proceed to be beaten by screaming power up like c'mon these guys are called the legends make them lose in a grand way, we don't want to see them having this title just becuase the writer says so.

still in this topic i think the term "titles" season 1 afterwards like the strategist, the world strongest, wind master and ect serve nothing in the story like a cool way to use this could've been making it as so as they are a key development for our MC to overcome like it would be cool if the term champion was used again in DB it would make Bell have a clear goal to reach other than "ah yes me want to be the best" like whats is even defined as the best? like valt was the best but he was potrayed as a fodder?

Valt only lost because he didn't have quaddrive. He beat Bel when he had a quad bey. Also, Bel kinda doesn't care what other people rank stuff, he was undefeated, so he was the best.

Bel wasn't undefeated. He lost a number of times. Valt thrashed him in their last battle. Then he thrashed Rashad 3-0 later in the season. Valt was clearly stronger than both of them. Best in the world.