Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts

(Mar. 13, 2022  9:26 PM)TeamRocketDJJ Wrote:
(Mar. 13, 2022  9:20 PM)Achilles25 Wrote: Only Shu, Valt, and Aiga. Shu beating Lane with a burst finish. Valt beating Lane with a ring out finish. And Aiga getting a ring out finish.

Ohh ok now I see the only difference is that Hikaru and Hyuga are the only ones who were unable to defeat him on solo and on two on one battle, except they were only able to defeat him and Shu in the Finals of the Ultimate Tag Series on the last episode.

To add on to this lane only took 3 lose an the manga. 2 times against shu and 1 against Hyuga they Where 1 va 1.
(Mar. 13, 2022  10:32 PM)God Dragruler Wrote:
(Mar. 13, 2022  9:26 PM)TeamRocketDJJ Wrote: Ohh ok now I see the only difference is that Hikaru and Hyuga are the only ones who were unable to defeat him on solo and on two on one battle, except they were only able to defeat him and Shu in the Finals of the Ultimate Tag Series on the last episode.

To add on to this lane only took 3 lose an the manga. 2 times against shu and 1 against Hyuga they Where 1 va 1.

Ohh now I see well I never read any of the manga before as I’m only obsessed with the anime.
I wonder if Beyblade Burst when it finally ends for the Dub, they'll re-release all the episodes back on the Official Youtube channel and keep them available for the people who still want to watch Beyblade Burst until a possible (And inevitable..) Gen 4 comes. They have all the Episodes of MFB and Plastic Gen on their respective channels so i don't see why they won't do the same for Burst.
(Mar. 16, 2022  11:31 PM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: I wonder if Beyblade Burst when it finally ends for the Dub, they'll re-release all the episodes back on the Official Youtube channel and keep them available for the people who still want to watch Beyblade Burst until a possible (And inevitable..) Gen 4 comes. They have all the Episodes of MFB and Plastic Gen on their respective channels so i don't see why they won't do the same for Burst
Maybe but I think adk would most likely want to give licences to streaming services so they can make money and not just put it on YouTube for free
List best to worst burst seasons in order.

Mines is
1. Evolution
2. Turbo
Tied for 3. Season 1
Tied for 3. Rise
4. Surge
5. DB
My list:
1. God
2. Burst
3. DB
4. Gachi
5. Cho-Z
6. Sparking
1. Burst/Evolution
2. Rise
3. QuadDrive
4. Surge
5. Turbo
1. Burst/God
2. DB
3. GT
4. Sparking
5. Cho - z
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Here is my burst animanga season tier list.
Quick Explaination

In S-tier we got sparking and DB manga, both of which are really really compelling to read the symbolism, philosophy and realationship all are really well executed here i put sparking above DB just because Sparking has less flaws than DB. And i put DB this high because its very exciting and high stakes.

A-tier, we got 2 anime season this time S1 and god both are which are a fairly fantastic season but imo i just dont think its quite as fun as the DB and Sparking manga

B-tier we got tons of stuff here ChoZ, GT, GT manga, S1 manga, God manga all are which is a great season byt the flaws keep them this low

C-tier here we got ChoZ manga and Sparking. For ChoZ manga i feel like the pacing is too fast and we dont get to see the charcter develop enough meanwhile sparking yeah its just plain

D-tier we got db personally my lest fav season out of all pf the season
My list didnt really change its God, S1, gt, cho z, Sparking and db. Manga Wise Sparking, God, DB, s1, cho z and gt.

(Mar. 18, 2022  5:08 PM)bey burst fan Wrote:
(Mar. 18, 2022  12:39 PM)Needforspeed Wrote: [Image: Screenshot_20220313-122327_FlipaClip.jpg]
Here is my burst animanga season tier list.
Quick Explaination

In S-tier we got sparking and DB manga, both of which are really really compelling to read the symbolism, philosophy and realationship all are really well executed here i put sparking above DB just because Sparking has less flaws than DB. And i put DB this high because its very exciting and high stakes.

A-tier, we got 2 anime season this time S1 and god both are which are a fairly fantastic season but imo i just dont think its quite as fun as the DB and Sparking manga

B-tier we got tons of stuff here ChoZ, GT, GT manga, S1 manga, God manga all are which is a great season byt the flaws keep them this low

C-tier here we got ChoZ manga and Sparking. For ChoZ manga i feel like the pacing is too fast and we dont get to see the charcter develop enough meanwhile sparking yeah its just plain

D-tier we got db personally my lest fav season out of all pf the season

hmm im actually suprised the db manga is rated to high on the list. i thought it had many flaws like ranzo and basara making their beys only to lose and do nothing to the plot. ilya did nothing. valt made ultimate only to lose. the legends felt forced. bell barely had any moments with talking to belial and bond and him making. pacing was way to fast. these are major flaws with the db manga i cant overlook. basara was the most disapointing and could have had a good story in the manga but got tossed aside. the anime builds up the relationships and and does not rush them like the manga
i cant give the db manga an s tier. its just has too many flaws. s tier means its perfect or close to perfect. and im not hating on the manga i like both.
My Anime list goes as follows
1. God/Evolution
2. Burst Season 1
3. Cho-Z
4. GT
5. DB
6. Sparking
(Mar. 18, 2022  5:08 PM)bey burst fan Wrote: hmm im actually suprised the db manga is rated to high on the list. i thought it had many flaws like ranzo and basara making their beys only to lose and do nothing to the plot. ilya did nothing. valt made ultimate only to lose. the legends felt forced. bell barely had any moments with talking to belial and bond and him making. pacing was way to fast. these are major flaws with the db manga i cant overlook. basara was the most disapointing and could have had a good story in the manga but got tossed aside. the anime builds up the relationships and and does not rush them like the manga
i cant give the db manga an s tier. its just has too many flaws. s tier means its perfect or close to perfect. and im not hating on the manga i like both.
Well its my tier list idc if the season has many flaws in it the important thing for me is the enjoyment if you dont agree then that your problem idc.

sure ilya couldnt do anything in the manga but mr.Morita didnt make her a rashad simp rambling around just for HAo Is CoOl GUYs and actually make her important, ranzo placement in the manga isnt as good as the anime yeah but at least he's existance is important for bell development, basara in manga they make him more impactful by making his development has a tie in connection to bell, do bell abd belial need a bond no imo the are already asthablished to have a great bond.
(Mar. 18, 2022  5:38 PM)Needforspeed Wrote:
(Mar. 18, 2022  5:08 PM)bey burst fan Wrote: hmm im actually suprised the db manga is rated to high on the list. i thought it had many flaws like ranzo and basara making their beys only to lose and do nothing to the plot. ilya did nothing. valt made ultimate only to lose. the legends felt forced. bell barely had any moments with talking to belial and bond and him making. pacing was way to fast. these are major flaws with the db manga i cant overlook. basara was the most disapointing and could have had a good story in the manga but got tossed aside. the anime builds up the relationships and and does not rush them like the manga
i cant give the db manga an s tier. its just has too many flaws. s tier means its perfect or close to perfect. and im not hating on the manga i like both.
Well its my tier list idc if the season has many flaws in it the important thing for me is the enjoyment if you dont agree then that your problem idc.

sure ilya couldnt do anything in the manga but mr.Morita didnt make her a rashad simp rambling around just for HAo Is CoOl GUYs and actually make her important, ranzo placement in the manga isnt as good as the anime yeah but at least he's existance is important for bell development, basara in manga they make him more impactful by making his development has a tie in connection to bell, do bell abd belial need a bond no imo the are already asthablished to have a great bond.

i still think basara i better in the anime but i want to see the bond of belial and bell and not just get exposition dumped. but people have opinions
Series tierlist

Music tierlist
anime/manga tierlist.
s tier. db anime. god anime
A tier. cho z anime. cho z manga. god manga. burst anime.
b tier. gt anime, burst manga
c tier. gt manga. sparking anime.
d tier. db manga. sparking manga
(Mar. 18, 2022  5:38 PM)Needforspeed Wrote:
(Mar. 18, 2022  5:08 PM)bey burst fan Wrote: hmm im actually suprised the db manga is rated to high on the list. i thought it had many flaws like ranzo and basara making their beys only to lose and do nothing to the plot. ilya did nothing. valt made ultimate only to lose. the legends felt forced. bell barely had any moments with talking to belial and bond and him making. pacing was way to fast. these are major flaws with the db manga i cant overlook. basara was the most disapointing and could have had a good story in the manga but got tossed aside. the anime builds up the relationships and and does not rush them like the manga
i cant give the db manga an s tier. its just has too many flaws. s tier means its perfect or close to perfect. and im not hating on the manga i like both.
Well its my tier list idc if the season has many flaws in it the important thing for me is the enjoyment if you dont agree then that your problem idc.

sure ilya couldnt do anything in the manga but mr.Morita didnt make her a rashad simp rambling around just for HAo Is CoOl GUYs and actually make her important, ranzo placement in the manga isnt as good as the anime yeah but at least he's existance is important for bell development, basara in manga they make him more impactful by making his development has a tie in connection to bell, do bell abd belial need a bond no imo the are already asthablished to have a great bond.

To me the anime is a complete dumpster fire of garbage, the manga flaws on pacing to me apply really with gears and that's it. 

Anime VS Manga: 
-> Ilya's role in the manga is a cameo and a flashback which they weren't used sure, but the fact the anime uses them and does NOTHING with the character is honestly way worse to me. You have the chance to actually develop and just do the utmost failure to just have it be reduced to a QuadDrive advertisement. 

-> Payne being anime only and having one of the worst set ups and an extremely rushed arc to not even be there at the end really is so extremely dissapotining. 

-> Rashad is a complete joke and the anime and feels extremely one-dimensional, like almost all characters in the anime they feel very 1 dimensional. Rashad is a Valt fanboy that takes up too long, the reasoning for how he wanted Raphael makes way more sense in the manga than it does in the anime. The dynamic of Bell and Rashad has so much more depth in the story that I don't know how the anime fumbled so badly in writing. The manga does develop relationships like Basara to Bell and Basara to Rashad, and Bell to Rashad and none are rushed it is not true at all to say. 

-> Legends for Free and Shu, feel absolutely like why are they there? Shu especially to debut and lose and never return except right around Ultimate was like???? Free too extremely unmemorable in the season. Lui was fine for set up from start to end didn't feel as forced for why he was there. 

-> The whole challenging the world thing they set up as a demon king whatever feels dropped so quickly and so many of the arcs feel like ok now this thing, now this thing, now they want to do a tournament to battle rashad -> random kid that will be forgtten who hates rashad appears -> now they do a tournament to have rashad like beyblade? (Skyship arc possible for worst arc in burst)

-> Basara goes through the same arc for both and they are both done well, Basara especially ties to an emotional arc with Bell that makes Bell really question himself and gives a backstory to his character. The anime decides to shove this last minute like we are expected to care at all when I don't really know what they were thinking.

> Ranzo and Hannah's not being as prevalent in the manga is fine for the reason that story in DB(Manga) focuses more on Bell and Rashad and clashing with the themes of a hero and a villain. 

> Valt having being reduced during that mini arc to being ignorant on Savior breaking was poorly executed and awful setting up Ultimate Valkyrie, I also think narratively Ultimate served more of a purpose in the manga than the anime. I don't care if anyone says "but it BATTLED ONCE", Bell and Rashad finishes up and the final hurdle is Valt going to his maximum potential and we see the support of all his old friends. The generational theme it had was really good to see, I also do not care that Valkyrie lost I care that they could've set up more tension at the end with the manga finale but doesn't detract from me.

-> The anime's world feels extremely hollowed with the past characters and events feeling almost non existent, Valt gets his champion status back from Aiga and it is never seen, manga does the same thing with Rashad at first place.

-> Visual presentation in the anime also is extremely subpar to previous seasons, aside from battle CGI character animation and art goes from extremely inconsistent to poor at times.

The anime to me is a 3/10, extremely awful even talking to people they say the same just for the battles don't really care for the show, the manga despite flaws excells way better at storytelling and doesn't have anything to take it away. The manga does get an S because tells an extremely good story with Bell that has good build up and overall was great to see.
(Mar. 18, 2022  6:03 PM)originalzankye Wrote:
(Mar. 18, 2022  5:38 PM)Needforspeed Wrote: Well its my tier list idc if the season has many flaws in it the important thing for me is the enjoyment if you dont agree then that your problem idc.

sure ilya couldnt do anything in the manga but mr.Morita didnt make her a rashad simp rambling around just for HAo Is CoOl GUYs and actually make her important, ranzo placement in the manga isnt as good as the anime yeah but at least he's existance is important for bell development, basara in manga they make him more impactful by making his development has a tie in connection to bell, do bell abd belial need a bond no imo the are already asthablished to have a great bond.

To me the anime is a complete dumpster fire of garbage, the manga flaws on pacing to me apply really with gears and that's it. 

Anime VS Manga: 
-> Ilya's role in the manga is a cameo and a flashback which they weren't used sure, but the fact the anime uses them and does NOTHING with the character is honestly way worse to me. You have the chance to actually develop and just do the utmost failure to just have it be reduced to a QuadDrive advertisement. 

-> Payne being anime only and having one of the worst set ups and an extremely rushed arc to not even be there at the end really is so extremely dissapotining. 

-> Rashad is a complete joke and the anime and feels extremely one-dimensional, like almost all characters in the anime they feel very 1 dimensional. Rashad is a Valt fanboy that takes up too long, the reasoning for how he wanted Raphael makes way more sense in the manga than it does in the anime. The dynamic of Bell and Rashad has so much more depth in the story that I don't know how the anime fumbled so badly in writing. The manga does develop relationships like Basara to Bell and Basara to Rashad, and Bell to Rashad and none are rushed it is not true at all to say. 

-> Legends for Free and Shu, feel absolutely like why are they there? Shu especially to debut and lose and never return except right around Ultimate was like???? Free too extremely unmemorable in the season. Lui was fine for set up from start to end didn't feel as forced for why he was there. 

-> The whole challenging the world thing they set up as a demon king whatever feels dropped so quickly and so many of the arcs feel like ok now this thing, now this thing, now they want to do a tournament to battle rashad -> random kid that will be forgtten who hates rashad appears -> now they do a tournament to have rashad like beyblade? (Skyship arc possible for worst arc in burst)

-> Basara goes through the same arc for both and they are both done well, Basara especially ties to an emotional arc with Bell that makes Bell really question himself and gives a backstory to his character. The anime decides to shove this last minute like we are expected to care at all when I don't really know what they were thinking.

> Ranzo and Hannah's not being as prevalent in the manga is fine for the reason that story in DB(Manga) focuses more on Bell and Rashad and clashing with the themes of a hero and a villain. 

> Valt having being reduced during that mini arc to being ignorant on Savior breaking was poorly executed and awful setting up Ultimate Valkyrie, I also think narratively Ultimate served more of a purpose in the manga than the anime. I don't care if anyone says "but it BATTLED ONCE", Bell and Rashad finishes up and the final hurdle is Valt going to his maximum potential and we see the support of all his old friends. The generational theme it had was really good to see, I also do not care that Valkyrie lost I care that they could've set up more tension at the end with the manga finale but doesn't detract from me.

-> The anime's world feels extremely hollowed with the past characters and events feeling almost non existent, Valt gets his champion status back from Aiga and it is never seen, manga does the same thing with Rashad at first place.

-> Visual presentation in the anime also is extremely subpar to previous seasons, aside from battle CGI character animation and art goes from extremely inconsistent to poor at times.

The anime to me is a 3/10, extremely awful even talking to people they say the same just for the battles don't really care for the show, the manga despite flaws excells way better at storytelling and doesn't have anything to take it away. The manga does get an S because tells an extremely good story with Bell that has good build up and overall was great to see.

sadly most people would disagree with you

woah I just realised beyblade burst has a 4.7/5 star on ratings with over a thousand reviews thats pretty good.

woah i cant believe ranzo and basra doing nothing ilya doing nothin valt making ultimate to just lose is better than the anime wow
This is a bit off topic but I've never read the manga and I've heard that Lane and Rashad had good arcs, could someone explain to me what character development they had in the manga?
Well here is my season ranking:

1: Burst

2: God

3: GT

4: Sparking

5: Chouzetsu

6: DB

I think that DB started out good but eventually got to the point where it was just dragging on. The second half of the series was really just boring and there were hardly many new characters or subplots, it was really "whatever" in my opinion. It got to the point where I didn't bother watching the episodes because it felt like a chore more than anything. 

Regardless, I would say I had a good experience with the burst saga overall and I am happy to have stuck around.
Goodbye. I had the greatest experience of my life with Burst.
This is what I think the Burst Ranking System is now after DB (manga):

1. Bell Daikokuten
2. Valt Aoi
3. Rashad Goodman
4. Shu Kurenai
5. Lean Walhalla
6. Aiga Akaba
7. Free de la Hoya
8. Lui Shirasagijo
9. Drum Koryu
10. Phi
11. Gwyn Ronny
12. Delta Akane
13. Kaiza Xhakuenji
14. Sisco Karlisle
15. Zenkuro Kurogane
16. Wakiya Komurasaki
17. Daina Kurogami
18. Rantaro Kiyama
19. Hyuga Asahi
20. Hikaru Asahi
(Mar. 19, 2022  4:48 PM)Dark red Wrote: This is what I think the Burst Ranking System is now after DB (manga):

1. Bell Daikokuten
2. Valt Aoi
3. Rashad Goodman
4. Shu Kurenai
5. Lean Walhalla
6. Aiga Akaba
7. Free de la Hoya
8. Lui Shirasagijo
9. Drum Koryu
10. Phi
11. Gwyn Ronny
12. Delta Akane
13. Kaiza Xhakuenji
14. Sisco Karlisle
15. Zenkuro Kurogane
16. Wakiya Komurasaki
17. Daina Kurogami
18. Rantaro Kiyama
19. Hikaru Asahi
20. Hyuga Asahi

I'm sure you can't just use the past rankings and put the new characters above the old ones.
(Mar. 19, 2022  5:49 PM)Darkus/Flasher Wrote:
(Mar. 19, 2022  4:48 PM)Dark red Wrote: This is what I think the Burst Ranking System is now after DB (manga):

1. Bell Daikokuten
2. Valt Aoi
3. Rashad Goodman
4. Shu Kurenai
5. Lean Walhalla
6. Aiga Akaba
7. Free de la Hoya
8. Lui Shirasagijo
9. Drum Koryu
10. Phi
11. Gwyn Ronny
12. Delta Akane
13. Kaiza Xhakuenji
14. Sisco Karlisle
15. Zenkuro Kurogane
16. Wakiya Komurasaki
17. Daina Kurogami
18. Rantaro Kiyama
19. Hikaru Asahi
20. Hyuga Asahi

I'm sure you can't just use the past rankings and put the new characters above the old ones.

To be fair the ranking didnt change after Sparking. Rashad is the only one that can be rank high though cause his battle actually were ranking battle he was even rank 1 at one point before losing it. Bell is the tricky one cause his battle were only officially at the end his in the same position as the asahi bros very little strong Official match even though he beat both Rashad and Valt by the End . But the ranking is acurate cause its untouched aside from Bell whos again tricky
(Mar. 19, 2022  7:41 PM)God Dragruler Wrote:
(Mar. 19, 2022  5:49 PM)Darkus/Flasher Wrote: I'm sure you can't just use the past rankings and put the new characters above the old ones.

To be fair the ranking didnt change after Sparking. Rashad is the only one that can be rank high though cause his battle actually were ranking battle he was even rank 1 at one point before losing it. Bell is the tricky one cause his battle were only officially at the end his in the same position as the asahi bros very little strong Official match even though he beat both Rashad and Valt by the End . But the ranking is acurate cause its untouched aside from Bell whos again tricky

Well If I had my way with the ranking system, this is how it would look like post DB:

1. Valt Aoi
2. Bell Daikokuten
3. Rashad Goodman
4. Shu Kurenai
5. Free De La Hoya
6. Lui Shirasagijo
7. Lean Walhalla
8. Aiga Akaba
9. Drum Koryu
10. Delta Akane
11. Gwyn Ronny
12. Phi
13. Sisco Karlisle
14. Wakiya Komurasaki
15. Daina Kurogami
16. Rantaro Kiyama
17. Kaiza Xhakuenji
18. Zenkuro Kurogane
19. Hikaru Asahi
20. Hyuga Asahi