Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts

(May. 13, 2021  5:19 PM)Orbit Wrote: Why many people are saying about character growth is true. Almost every major character either has character development or is used to develop others. Gingka is just the main character, though the main plot development he has is when he tries to gain more power by returning to the village and after his dad too away his bey pointer. Kenta also develops as time goes on, but a specific moment where he does more would Ben with Benkei when he’s trying to beat Hikaru. Benkei develops in that moment too, and also when Kyoya leaves. Kyoya just starts out as a mini Villain but turns into a kind of anti hero after Gingka helps him. Tsubasa doesn’t have Much character growth over the show, instead he is a mysterious figure who shows his true personablity and motivations later on. Yu grows as a character when he realizes he’s on the side of things.

These are all just examples from metal fusion, not even the greater metal fight

Yes. For those who said "mEtaL fUsIoN had no character dveelopment."

Tsubasa has a few arcs in Metal Masters and Metal Fury, which had good development. tsubasa was a amazing character
Man, Masamune alone beats out 90% of Burst characters. A part of what makes older seasons so special is that they aren't afraid to make the main characters lose. Now they just awaken flare at the last second or whatever.
why do we always have this conversation
(May. 13, 2021  5:43 PM)Instarez Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  5:35 PM)Admiral W Wrote: What are you trying to get across then?
I'll just quote myself

So my point is: Burst character are stereotypical, and boring. They need to experiment with more character types like they used too, cause now it's just super small simple stuff like jerk becomes friendly, rather than some interesting and unique stuff, like a Brooklyn.  In comparison, Metal Fight and Bakuten Shoot have characters that just feel more human. They go through stuff, they feel things, you can relate to them. It's a lot more than what Burst does. Even Bell seems to be having a jerk becomes friendly arc, which is just great.

I feel as if you are over simplifying the burst arcs to belittle them, I mean everyone can have their own opinions but you could simplify any character arc to make it look bad like you could make Kai's arc a jerk becomes less of a jerk story, but we all know it's more than that, like if I explained Valt's story as he learns to believe in himself and overcome the disbelief of others and become a better person becoming the greatest blader of all time it makes it seem amazing compared to what you said. My point anything can sound bad if you simplify it.
Apart of what Masamune awesome is him losing to Nile. It was so unexpected. The characters helped him from the stands, he went full power at the weakest possible point of Horuseus' special move, a literal set up for victory. But nah, he just straight up lost. It wasn't just for shock value either, it actually, genuinely, added to his character.
(May. 13, 2021  5:44 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  3:29 PM)Admiral W Wrote: What growth was there in Fusion, how were the characters different on a personal level by the end then they were in the beginning? None really. And the only real definite character arcs in Fury, were with Kenta and Ryuga.

Valt, Ken, Daigo, Shu, Wakiya, Silas, Free, they all had definite character arcs where we got to see how on a personal level they changed as individuals. And there's even more when you look at the mini arcs some of the side characters like Naoki and Rixon underwent. 

Valt struggles with self doubt throughout much of season 1 and finally comes to a place where he has confidence in his abilities as a blader and has learned not to let the negative opinions others have of him to stop him from moving forward, we also see him struggle with finding his own path forward instead of imitating how others view what it takes to be a better blader, and this isn't even counting all the ways he grew as a blader.

Ken struggles very much with being isolated, and very closed in, very shy, but after meeting Valt and the others he opens up little by little across the season and by the end, he's come to be very close to all the bey club members, and when he returns at the national tournament, he's has such a new confidence about him, he's no longer the same shy person he was at the beginning.

I made a whole post about Silas' character arc and how he started out as a person concerned only with his own prestige and status and was always looking for a place to belong which is why he bounced around to different bey clubs. By the end of the world league though he's come to acutally care and rely on the members of BC Sol, and he actually wants to win not for his own prestige, but he wants to win for the team, and to live up to the trust they've placed in him. He's no longer the self centered person he was at the beginning. At the international bladers cup he even tells Kris that he wants to make BC Sol a household name, demonstrating again that he isn't thinking just about himself anymore. And after all that wondering he did before he joined the team, he has finally found a place to belong.

I could go on and on about how those characters changed on a personal level, they had definite arcs. I could go even more indepth on the other characters but this post would be even longer than it is. We don't see much of this kind of personal character growth through definite arcs in MFB.

I already mentioned Kenta and Ryuga and that was only in Fury. Kyoya didn't necessarily learn to work together, he was forced to, and even towards the end he was still simply concerned with getting his revenge on Aguma. He worked with the others at the end because he had no choice due to the fate of the world being at stake. Chris had a mini arc that's comparable with some of the mini arcs some burst side characters had.

All in all when it comes to growth through definite character arcs, Burst has done more, and the arcs they've done have been far more meaningful and relatable.

Burst only had character develoment in S1 and S2. Ask 6Jupiter5 and Instarez.

Metal Fusion had a little less than decent character development.

Kenta had many arcs of his own, learning strength, determination, and perservance. He trained harder than even Gingka. A true rival. He gained immense power through hard work. He kept on standing up, persauding Ryuga to forgo his pride.

Gingka. Gingka learned friendship, hardwork and determination. He never gave up, stood up, and fought. He had many good arcs.

Ryuga. Ryuga forgo his pride and helped the world. He turned on Doji, being manipulated by him. He gained control of the dark power. He, in the end, saved the MFB World. His L-Drago and him gave many hints to gingka which helped him achieve top-notch strength.

Kyoya. Kyoya learned how to teamwork. He used to be full of pride, but in Metal Fury, he in the end saved the world by siding with Gingka. He had many cool arcs and development stats.

Masuname. Masuname had in fact three arcs. He learned to get stronger, determination, and will strength.


Burst had excelllent character development in S1 and S2 but the other seasons's character development was downright stupid.


Let's agree to disagree. You like Burst and think it has better character development, and I think otherwise.

If you want to argue more, I will post a whole essay here why MFB has better character development.

Kenta and perhaps Masamune and Ryuga to an extent were the only ones of that list that really grew as people and Masamune was always determined, we saw that in his introductory episode so nothing about that particular aspect of him changed. Gingka was the same at the end that he was at the beginning. He was always powerful and hardworking. So nothing about those aspects of him changed either, thus that's not a character arc.

I already mentioned this in the earlier post, but Kyoya didn't really have an arc. He had no choice, but to work with the others given that he was face to face with a world ending disaster. If he didn't help, he'd end up dead. He was forced to work with them. By the end he was still fill of pride. That aspect of him also didn't change. Kyoya was the same at the end.
(May. 13, 2021  5:53 PM)ZionandBirddo Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  5:43 PM)Instarez Wrote: I'll just quote myself

So my point is: Burst character are stereotypical, and boring. They need to experiment with more character types like they used too, cause now it's just super small simple stuff like jerk becomes friendly, rather than some interesting and unique stuff, like a Brooklyn.  In comparison, Metal Fight and Bakuten Shoot have characters that just feel more human. They go through stuff, they feel things, you can relate to them. It's a lot more than what Burst does. Even Bell seems to be having a jerk becomes friendly arc, which is just great.

I feel as if you are over simplifying the burst arcs to belittle them, I mean everyone can have their own opinions but you could simplify any character arc to make it look bad like you could make Kai's arc a jerk becomes less of a jerk story, but we all know it's more than that, like if I explained Valt's story as he learns to believe in himself and overcome the disbelief of others and become a better person becoming the greatest blader of all time it makes it seem amazing compared to what you said. My point anything can sound bad if you simplify it.

I never claimed Kai was anything more than that. He was a cold jerk that found friends. You can make Silas sound like he has the greatest development of all time. In reality I'm just saying it how it has. I could go in depth, but we'd be here all day.
(May. 13, 2021  5:48 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  5:05 PM)Admiral W Wrote: I don't agree. Honestly you missed a lot of details with regards to Burst. Those first two seasons really took the characters on relatable arcs. I made a post on the previous page detailing some of the arcs of a few of the Burst characters. So you can look at that for a more indepth dive. Just to give one example here, Daigo's arc is one plenty can relate to. His desire to improve in the face of Valt's growing skill led him to cheat and afterward he struggled with the choice he made. Plenty of people can relate to making a serious mistake and struggling with the regret, the guilt of what you've done, your mind constantly reminding you of the error you made. The show very nicely illustrated his struggle, with the constant flashbacks of that choice. In the end he resolves to never repeat that mistake. To never betray himself that way again. I like how they touched on this later in season when he told Jin that its not about getting caught, it about being able to look yourself in the mirror. This is just one example. Those first two seasons are full of great, meanigful, relatable character arcs stuff we didn't we didn't really see much of in Metal Fight. I can't speak to OG since I haven't seen it.

He did not. Daigo's arc was boring.  Yes, and that arc was good. I gotta give you that. If I compare MFB to burst, MFB had at least decent growth in every season, unlike Burst.

Again that isn't the case though. Very few MFB characters had definite arcs. Daigo had an excellent arc. We actually got to see him struggle with the guilt over what he had done.
this is why i dont like these og vs mfb vs burst types of arguments.

because in the end it all wears down to opinions and biases
(May. 13, 2021  5:55 PM)Admiral W Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  5:44 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: Burst only had character develoment in S1 and S2. Ask 6Jupiter5 and Instarez.

Metal Fusion had a little less than decent character development.

Kenta had many arcs of his own, learning strength, determination, and perservance. He trained harder than even Gingka. A true rival. He gained immense power through hard work. He kept on standing up, persauding Ryuga to forgo his pride.

Gingka. Gingka learned friendship, hardwork and determination. He never gave up, stood up, and fought. He had many good arcs.

Ryuga. Ryuga forgo his pride and helped the world. He turned on Doji, being manipulated by him. He gained control of the dark power. He, in the end, saved the MFB World. His L-Drago and him gave many hints to gingka which helped him achieve top-notch strength.

Kyoya. Kyoya learned how to teamwork. He used to be full of pride, but in Metal Fury, he in the end saved the world by siding with Gingka. He had many cool arcs and development stats.

Masuname. Masuname had in fact three arcs. He learned to get stronger, determination, and will strength.


Burst had excelllent character development in S1 and S2 but the other seasons's character development was downright stupid.


Let's agree to disagree. You like Burst and think it has better character development, and I think otherwise.

If you want to argue more, I will post a whole essay here why MFB has better character development.

Kenta and perhaps Masamune and Ryuga to an extent were the only ones of that list that really grew as people and Masamune was always determined, we saw that in his introductory episode so nothing about that particular aspect of him changed. Gingka was the same at the end that he was at the beginning. He was always powerful and hardworking. So nothing about those aspects of him changed either, thus that's not a character arc.

I already mentioned this in the earlier post, but Kyoya didn't really have an arc. He had no choice, but to work with the others given that he was face to face with a world ending disaster. If he didn't help, he'd end up dead. He was forced to work with them. By the end he was still fill of pride. That aspect of him also didn't change. Kyoya was the same at the end.
This is blatantly false and you know that. Maybe actually watch MFB before throwing around insane claims. Kyoya and Gingka had no characters arcs? Miss me with that bs.
(May. 13, 2021  5:56 PM)Admiral W Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  5:48 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: He did not. Daigo's arc was boring.  Yes, and that arc was good. I gotta give you that. If I compare MFB to burst, MFB had at least decent growth in every season, unlike Burst.

Again that isn't the case though. Daigo had an excellent arc. We actually got to see him struggle with the guilt over what he had done.

I have a different opinion. No drama. No interesting comebacks. Battle was pretty worn-out and same old thing.
For me Burst is 40% (2/5 seasons) and Metal fight was 62.5% (2.5/4 seasons). The first two seasons of both had good character development, but it fell flat after god. In Mfb the first two seasons were both good, but fury want very good, ouside of Kentas character development and some other smaller characters. Hence 0.5. The last one is Zero-G, which wasn’t very good in character development (I think). It’s funny how people forget that zero g is a part of MFB as well XD.
Also I didn't even notice Masamune. What are you on about dude/ I'm all for having an debate, but this is genuinely FALSE.
(May. 13, 2021  5:55 PM)Admiral W Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  5:44 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: Burst only had character develoment in S1 and S2. Ask 6Jupiter5 and Instarez.

Metal Fusion had a little less than decent character development.

Kenta had many arcs of his own, learning strength, determination, and perservance. He trained harder than even Gingka. A true rival. He gained immense power through hard work. He kept on standing up, persauding Ryuga to forgo his pride.

Gingka. Gingka learned friendship, hardwork and determination. He never gave up, stood up, and fought. He had many good arcs.

Ryuga. Ryuga forgo his pride and helped the world. He turned on Doji, being manipulated by him. He gained control of the dark power. He, in the end, saved the MFB World. His L-Drago and him gave many hints to gingka which helped him achieve top-notch strength.

Kyoya. Kyoya learned how to teamwork. He used to be full of pride, but in Metal Fury, he in the end saved the world by siding with Gingka. He had many cool arcs and development stats.

Masuname. Masuname had in fact three arcs. He learned to get stronger, determination, and will strength.


Burst had excelllent character development in S1 and S2 but the other seasons's character development was downright stupid.


Let's agree to disagree. You like Burst and think it has better character development, and I think otherwise.

If you want to argue more, I will post a whole essay here why MFB has better character development.

Kenta and perhaps Masamune and Ryuga to an extent were the only ones of that list that really grew as people and Masamune was always determined, we saw that in his introductory episode so nothing about that particular aspect of him changed. Gingka was the same at the end that he was at the beginning. He was always powerful and hardworking. So nothing about those aspects of him changed either, thus that's not a character arc.

I already mentioned this in the earlier post, but Kyoya didn't really have an arc. He had no choice, but to work with the others given that he was face to face with a world ending disaster. If he didn't help, he'd end up dead. He was forced to work with them. By the end he was still fill of pride. That aspect of him also didn't change. Kyoya was the same at the end.

to an extent? WHAT? Ryuga's, Gingka's, King's, Masuname's, Kenta's character development was off the charts. Not all character development happen in character arcs. Masuname's defeat to Nile added to his character. It was amazing. Yes Kyoya did have his own arcs. In metal Fury and Metal Fusion. Wrong again. Knowledge of mfb saga is lacking for you. He did change. Re-watch or watch Metal Fury please.
(May. 13, 2021  5:59 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  5:56 PM)Admiral W Wrote: Again that isn't the case though. Daigo had an excellent arc. We actually got to see him struggle with the guilt over what he had done.

I have a different opinion. No drama. No interesting comebacks. Battle was pretty worn-out and same old thing.

Okay, Imma come back and clear this up.
We're not talking about Daina VS Yugo, we're talking about the aftermath of Daina cheating in that match, how his guilt over it was dragging him down and the way it affected him.
(May. 13, 2021  5:50 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  5:19 PM)Orbit Wrote: Why many people are saying about character growth is true. Almost every major character either has character development or is used to develop others. Gingka is just the main character, though the main plot development he has is when he tries to gain more power by returning to the village and after his dad too away his bey pointer. Kenta also develops as time goes on, but a specific moment where he does more would Ben with Benkei when he’s trying to beat Hikaru. Benkei develops in that moment too, and also when Kyoya leaves. Kyoya just starts out as a mini Villain but turns into a kind of anti hero after Gingka helps him. Tsubasa doesn’t have Much character growth over the show, instead he is a mysterious figure who shows his true personablity and motivations later on. Yu grows as a character when he realizes he’s on the side of things.

These are all just examples from metal fusion, not even the greater metal fight

Yes. For those who said "mEtaL fUsIoN had no character dveelopment."

Tsubasa has a few arcs in Metal Masters and Metal Fury, which had good development. tsubasa was a amazing character

YESS Tsubasa was an amazing character, even just in metal fusion, he was a mysterious figure who had little character growth, but revealed his true motivations and personality over time. And then in metal masters he had legitimate growth with the whole dark energy thing
(May. 13, 2021  6:01 PM)PinkRose Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  5:59 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: I have a different opinion. No drama. No interesting comebacks. Battle was pretty worn-out and same old thing.

Okay, Imma come back and clear this up.
We're not talking about Daina VS Yugo, we're talking about the aftermath of Daina cheating in that match, how his guilt over it was dragging him down and the way it affected him.

Not about that. The battles in his own personal arc.
And for that last point you made, no. Gingka's development, nice as it may be, is nothing too special, and as for Ryuga...I'll admit this might be a bit biased but his development is nothing too special either. He just gets off that high horse of his and becomes a better person, and while that's cool, it's not legendary or anything. This is an issue that exists with most characters that are established as very powerful from the beggining; usually all their development boils down to them letting go of their ego for the greater good, and Ryuga's no exception.
(May. 13, 2021  5:49 PM)Instarez Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  5:46 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: That's cap. I think otherwise. Ryuga, Kenta, Gingka, Kyoya, Aguma, King, Masuname, etc a lot of characters. if you want that, I will literally post a whole five paragraph essay why after school and if I get free.


I completely agree with you. here. A better five paragprah essay.

Bro for real they are capping, like that's genuinely just false. Metal Fight has lots of characters that go through arcs an development, not just Kenta. Like that's provably false.

I agree Burst has character development but I got pissed off when I read "Burst outclasses MFB in Character Development".
(May. 13, 2021  6:06 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  5:49 PM)Instarez Wrote: Bro for real they are capping, like that's genuinely just false. Metal Fight has lots of characters that go through arcs an development, not just Kenta. Like that's provably false.

I agree Burst has character development but I got pissed off when I read "Burst outclasses MFB in Character Development".

man you seriously need to respect other people's opinions.
(May. 13, 2021  6:05 PM)PinkRose Wrote: And no, for that last point you made. Gingka's development, nice as it may be, is nothing too special, and as for Ryuga...I'll admit this might be a bit biased but his development is nothing special either. He just got off that high horse of his and became a better person, and while that's cool, it's nothing too legendary or anything. This is an issue that exists with most characters that are established as very powerful from the beggining; usually all their development boils down to them letting go of their ego for the greater good, and Ryuga's no exception.

1. What?! It was amazing. This is 100 percent biased, Gingka's character development is on par with Valt's.
2. Ryuga. Don't you dare. Ryuga changed his behavior, and pride to save the world. From being controlled by the dark power, he went to the hero who gave his star fragment to Kenta which gave the MFB world hope. Cap.
3. It's legendary for me. for you, everything Burst is legendary. For me, Burst has good things and bad things, but MFB overall is better in my opinion. You are clearly trying to show my opinion to be negligible. Forgive me if I am wrong.
4. No it doesn't. Usually? Ask Instarez. Did you read our previous posts? Did you actually watch and understand MFB?
(May. 13, 2021  6:06 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  5:49 PM)Instarez Wrote: Bro for real they are capping, like that's genuinely just false. Metal Fight has lots of characters that go through arcs an development, not just Kenta. Like that's provably false.

I agree Burst has character development but I got pissed off when I read "Burst outclasses MFB in Character Development".

That's why I thank God every day I'm not biased due to nostalgia...
For real tho, my point is this: Burst is a more realistic generation of Beyblade, and this carries on to the lifes of its cast. They face real-life personal issues, they tackle them like any normal 11-year-old kid would, and even if it's not out of the ordinary, it's nice for what it is and very well-done, and MFB doesn't have that sort of thing because their characters do not live in a universe so similar to real life.
(May. 13, 2021  6:05 PM)PinkRose Wrote: And for that last point you made, no. Gingka's development, nice as it may be, is nothing too special, and as for Ryuga...I'll admit this might be a bit biased but his development is nothing too special either. He just gets off that high horse of his and becomes a better person, and while that's cool, it's not legendary or anything. This is an issue that exists with most characters that are established as very powerful from the beggining; usually all their development boils down to them letting go of their ego for the greater good, and Ryuga's no exception.
He never even let go of his ego lol
I'll literally pull out pages form the wiki itself.
GINGKA:
Shortly after his defeat to Ryuga, Gingka has nightmares about his battle again. He keeps thinking about his Pegasus getting destroyed by L-Drago. Gingka then recalls something his father told him; that in Koma Village there was an ancient scroll that said how to defeat the forbidden bey. Kenta and co. were still curious how he knows Doji and Ryuga, Gingka finally tells the story of how Doji and Ryuga went to Koma Village to steal the forbidden beyblade his father was protecting from evil. He tells how Ryuga stole L-Drago and battled his father in order to escape with it; and in the process kills Gingka's father Ryo Hagane.

In order to defeat L-Drago Gingka sets out to Koma Village to find the ancient scroll. Gingka's disappearance for Koma Village leaves his friends in curiosity into where he went. Gingka's arrival in Koma Village surprised his old childhood friends Hokuto and Hyoma.

When he arrives Gingka tells his friends why he came back to the village. Gingka starts his search for the legendary scroll that is said to be hidden at the top of a dangerous mountain. Gingka sets off for this treacherous journey alone. While his friends journey to find their lonely depressed friend.

Gingka's long journey begins through dangerous weather and rapid winds while he tries to find the mountain that contains the scroll. Gingka's friends on the other hand reach the village and ask Hokuto and Hyoma where he went but have no luck.

Gingka's journey then comes to a conclusion when he reaches the illegid location of the "legendary scroll"; but turns out it was a trick devised by his father many years before, the only scroll found was a letter to Gingka by his father saying that their is no real scroll that it was made up to test him and that the only way to defeat the darkness is with spirit.

That made Gingka realize that he has lost his bey spirit after his loss to Ryuga and was only out to find anyway to defeat him with revenge. Gingka then sets out to return to the village and then finds his bey spirit on the journey, learning that his bond with Pegasus can overcome any foe. He then reaches the Village and sees his friends down below. His friends are shocked at the site that their friend Gingka has returned with a stronger bond with his bey Pegasus.

KYOYA:
Kyoya battles hard, and for most of the battle feels out of his league due to Damian's overwhelming power. Kyoya fights on to the point where he is dragged into Kerbecs' gate where its Damian's World giving Kyoya a huge disadvantage. After being battered and beaten by Kerbecs over and over Kyoya remembers what he's fighting for and Gingka's still out there, at that point Kyoya changes the realm from the underworld to the wilderness making it the lions territory.

MASAMUNE:
Masamune is absolutely devastated by his lost to Nile, having put so much pressure on himself and then to lose so easily. In the next match, the spotlight shines on Gingka who battles a powerful Kyoya, the two go back in forth until they are completley drained of power, ending their match in a draw. With Gingka passed out, Yu and Tsubasa decide to tag team against the Masked Bull (Benkei) and Demure. Masamune watches as Nile's plan unfolds, pushing Tsubasa into a corner much like what happened to Masamune. Tsubasa once again releases his mysterious Dark abilities to win the match, leaving GanGan Galaxy and Wild Fang tied.

In the final match, Masamune decides to get his rematch with Nile in a tag team match alongside Gingka. The two would face Kyoya and Nile. As the match begins, the two teams divide to conquer their rivals and even though Masamune has learned not to be overconfident, he is simply not strong enough to defeat Nile. Finally Masamune swallows his pride enough to ask Gingka for help, and with the this the real tag team match begins.

(separate arc)
Masamune and GanGan Galaxy arrive to the stadium early to find Zeo and several other HD beybladers trying to capture Ryuga. Automatically taking Zeo's side, Masamune confronts Ryuga until Gingka halts him and has him notice a dramatic change in personality within Zeo. Zeo then harasses Masamune about leaving Toby and battles both Masamune and Gingka while Ryuga escapes. Confused, Masamune does not fight back and is easily overwhelmed by Zeo, who stops and retreats on orders.

During the battle, Masamune helps to remind Gingka that his team is behind him all the way, and after a long fought battle, Gingka is victorious over Damian. With this victory, GanGan Galaxy are declared the world champions, Masamune finally realizing his dream of being on top as one of the best.
(May. 13, 2021  5:48 PM)Instarez Wrote:
(May. 13, 2021  5:45 PM)Admiral W Wrote: I read that, but what I'm trying to point out to is that acutally not the case. Which is why I mentioned that you missed a lot of details with regards to Burst.

Ok, real like struggles. 1, isolation. Burst have good portrayal of it? Nah. 2, pride. Burst have a good portrayal of it? Nah? 3, self doubt? Burst have a good portrayal? nah.
Burst has excellent portrayals of all those.

Ken struggled with isolation due to the fact that he was always moving around. He never had to opportunity to form real connections with people. That's partially the reason he speaks using the puppets. He isn't used to connecting with people. Over the course of the season we see Ken come out of his shell and open up little by little. By the time it's revealed that he has to leave the school, we see that he's gotten so close to bey club members even talking without the puppets, therefore revealing how much he's opened up. He even cried because he finally got the opportunity to form real friendships and make real connections, and now he has to leave. He was so shy in beginning but because he met Valt and the others, he came out of his shell and by the time of the national tournament he returns with this Newfound confidence.

Wakiya dealt heavily with pride. From the beginning Wakiya had no respect for his opponents due to his pride and overconfidence in his own abilities, by the end of the season though he's come to respect the bladers around him and to care for them. He even held up his own match in the Nationals, embarrassed himself on live TV so Valt could make it to his match. And he season 2 he acknowledges how far Valt has come and how good he's gotten realizing that he needs to up his game to keep up.

Valt had to confront serious self doubt all season born from the way others underestimated him. As an example Wakiya told him that not everyone is cut out to be a great blader, and we see Valt struggle with the self doubt that came from that, we also see him struggle with that during the national tournament. So many bladers underestimated him and he doubted his abilities all season because of that. He eventually learned not to give into those opinions and to instead focus on his goals and his realtionship with Valtryek.