Kenta is etehir above or below Kyoya but not above Rygua. You can use episodes 136-139 as an example.
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(Apr. 06, 2021 3:29 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote:1: My bad on that first mistake. Yes, Rago acknowledged the fact that Ryuga stood against him for so long, there’s no doubt about that. However, it was ultimately just a long game Rago as playing with Ryuga where he had foreseen his defeat earlier. Rago was actually trying to beat Kenta, not play with him. He was pretty much going all out at that point.(Apr. 05, 2021 11:15 PM)Zeutron Wrote: 1: Yeah, it doesn’t seem like power can be exchanged (can be taken though) I was wrong.
2: I know it was but as a result of that, that version of Gingka is its whole own carnation that happens to be far beyond Ryuga.
3: He kind of is “a” successor of Ryuga, just not “the” successor. Seeing as he inherited Ryuga’s star fragment, it’s clear that he’s definitely a successor of sorts.
4: Pluto stated multiple times that Nemesis wasn’t even using half its power all while Rago and Pluto laughed in his face. Knocking a bey tha isn’t even using half its strength back isn’t all that impressive tbh. He did say that Ryuga has done well to last as long as he did because that’s what he legitimately believed, doesn’t really change the fact that Rago wasn’t trying though.
5: Rago only beat Kenta after the black sun had nearly consumed the world and by that point, he would have been more powerful. Besides, Rago hadn’t faced many of the legends and normal bladers that were there at that point but he was still crushing them. Kenta being is surprise was nearly as much of a surprise as anyone else tbh. When Madonna talks about Saggitario’s evolution Rago even says “That doesn’t matter” before engaging Kenta in an aura battle (which Kenta seemingly won).
6: Yeah but that was before the star fragment and evolution, pre evolution Kenta and legend Kenta are definitely different storywise. Kenta leaving that gash in L-Drago’s face bolt was pretty cool, one of the very few people capable of damaging L-Drago in that brief moment.
Your crazy if you put Dynamis at 5, dude only ever beat Ryuto on his own (also bad) and he got one shotted by Pluto. Yuki also isn’t that great, mostly piggybacks off of Gingka. Being a legend doesn’t really make you a top 10 blader tbh, but being a good one does.
1. I agree with all statements 3: and above. For 4:, Pluto did NOT state multiple times. He only said it in the literal beginning of the battle. You realize, Rago literally ACKNOLWEDGED how Ryuga stood agaisnt him for so long. Any other blader's individual power would of gotten literally decimated.
2. That's not true. The LBs (Legendary Bladers) were battling Rago, each of them with Special Moves, but Rago completely squashed them again and again. And thinking about it, Ryuga withstanding a God at Half Power is still a unimaginable feat. Rago could only be sealed by full power of all bladers in MFB world, and withstanding half of the power till SO LONG, proves Ryuga is a true and worthy blader, def one of the strongest without any doubt. As 6Jupiter5 stated, Kenta hasn't surpassed Ryuga in power or skill.
3. Yes I know that, but scracthing doesn't do anything. It proves the gap between Ryuga and other bladers is even LARGER
4. Dynamis withstood Cosmic Tornado MANY times, and he's a legendary blader, AND he's the guardian. Yes maybe my list had some mistakes, but the things I wrote above are with valid proof.
2: Actually, Nemesis was said to not even be using half its power. Ryuga may have lasted longer but Rago was playing around him with for a good chunk of that match. Before the black sun had consumed most of the world, Kenta was matching Rago who was actively trying to eliminate him at that point with no holds barred (since the four season bladers were together thus, creating the possibility of sealing Nemesis away) and even then, they were momentarily equal when they brought out their aura’s. It was practically a stalemate since Aguma was the one who held Kenta back by telling him to complete Zeus’s barrier.
3: In the metal fight anime damaging someone’s bey is a big deal. Kenta damaging L-Drago was effectively a kick in the face for Ryuga and it’s pretty much the follow up to the “the brief moment that made him serious.” It obviously affected him tbh
4: Withstanding one of Gingka’s special moves in an non-climactic scenario is definitely not that crazy and being a legendary blader doesn’t really make you all that powerful by itself, he got one shotted by Pluto after all. His anti feats outweigh anything good he has actually done and there are plenty of non legendary bladers with better feats.
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(Apr. 06, 2021 4:29 PM)Vtryuga Wrote: I will have to agree with the majority here. Ryuga was definitely stronger than Kent by a considerable Margin. The real reason why Kenta was so strong in that episode was that Flash Saggitario was just released. Rago never really used his special Move again. Also Zeutron when Rago uses a special move that implies that he used more than 50 % of his power( special moves are considered finishing moves. ) I'm not denying Kenta is strong; but to compare him to Ryuga does seem a bit odd to me.
Yes, only two ppl actually can defeat or stand agaisnt the Fearsome Dragon Emperor. They are Rago and Gingka. I can't agree more with you.
What do you say on the part that is Gingka stronger than Ryuga? I would say that Ryuga and Gingka are equal. What are your thoughts?
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ano ther random thought:if toko and nika became protagonists
, no turbo (Apr. 06, 2021 6:31 PM)eggblader Wrote: another random thought:if toko and nika became protagonists
We'd spend 50-something episodes following Tokonatsu's journey to build his self-esteem and Nika being there to support him all the time (only with words tho. Burst giving us an actually competent female Blader with her own Bey and all has equal chances of happening as the sun rising from the west at this point).
Also, this is the 888 page of this thread. Dang, we should probably celebrate or sth
See what I mean?
888 for me
yea. mine is 888
Its not every day you see a thread with the smae digits for how many pages. Happy 888 bithday Random Beyblade Anime and Manga thoughts.
maybe a mobile thing?
*blows a streamer*
(Apr. 06, 2021 5:38 PM)Zeutron Wrote:(Apr. 06, 2021 3:29 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: 1. I agree with all statements 3: and above. For 4:, Pluto did NOT state multiple times. He only said it in the literal beginning of the battle. You realize, Rago literally ACKNOLWEDGED how Ryuga stood agaisnt him for so long. Any other blader's individual power would of gotten literally decimated.1: My bad on that first mistake. Yes, Rago acknowledged the fact that Ryuga stood against him for so long, there’s no doubt about that. However, it was ultimately just a long game Rago as playing with Ryuga where he had foreseen his defeat earlier. Rago was actually trying to beat Kenta, not play with him. He was pretty much going all out at that point.
2. That's not true. The LBs (Legendary Bladers) were battling Rago, each of them with Special Moves, but Rago completely squashed them again and again. And thinking about it, Ryuga withstanding a God at Half Power is still a unimaginable feat. Rago could only be sealed by full power of all bladers in MFB world, and withstanding half of the power till SO LONG, proves Ryuga is a true and worthy blader, def one of the strongest without any doubt. As 6Jupiter5 stated, Kenta hasn't surpassed Ryuga in power or skill.
3. Yes I know that, but scracthing doesn't do anything. It proves the gap between Ryuga and other bladers is even LARGER
4. Dynamis withstood Cosmic Tornado MANY times, and he's a legendary blader, AND he's the guardian. Yes maybe my list had some mistakes, but the things I wrote above are with valid proof.
2: Actually, Nemesis was said to not even be using half its power. Ryuga may have lasted longer but Rago was playing around him with for a good chunk of that match. Before the black sun had consumed most of the world, Kenta was matching Rago who was actively trying to eliminate him at that point with no holds barred (since the four season bladers were together thus, creating the possibility of sealing Nemesis away) and even then, they were momentarily equal when they brought out their aura’s. It was practically a stalemate since Aguma was the one who held Kenta back by telling him to complete Zeus’s barrier.
3: In the metal fight anime damaging someone’s bey is a big deal. Kenta damaging L-Drago was effectively a kick in the face for Ryuga and it’s pretty much the follow up to the “the brief moment that made him serious.” It obviously affected him tbh
4: Withstanding one of Gingka’s special moves in an non-climactic scenario is definitely not that crazy and being a legendary blader doesn’t really make you all that powerful by itself, he got one shotted by Pluto after all. His anti feats outweigh anything good he has actually done and there are plenty of non legendary bladers with better feats.
1: That's also not true. If Nemesis would of went full power, that would literally SPELL the end of Kenta. The star fragment evolution was such a surpise a HUGE comeback, that even Rago was baffled. He didn't know the abilities of the newly evolved bey of Kenta, and it should also be noted that Nemesis didn't have the shadow counterpart of Kenta's bey as Nemesis did of all other beys.
2: It wasn't a stalemate. Kenta would've lost easily. You realize, Nemesis was caught off guard and did not know of any power of sagittario.
3. Yes the first sentence is true. But, the only reason kenta managed to barely scratch L Drago was because the attack was in the sky, and breaking or bursting or flicking a bey outside of a stadium's a BIG deal, not just scratching it.
4: It should also be noted that Pluto was a strong blader, and the person didn't know of any abilities of Pluto's bey, and even Kenta had a lot of trouble fending out firefuse darkhelm. The reason why Dynamis got one shotted was that Dynamis wasn't ready for the attack, and the attack was from above, almost any bey except for Nemesis and L Drago would've been sent wobbling by the attack.
(Apr. 06, 2021 2:28 PM)MasterChef Wrote: For SS obviously Gold Gingka and Rago go there, In the S teir all legendary bladers but for Yuki, I think he should go etheir A or B. Also S can include Faust and Helios from the MFB movie. I know Helios isn't really part of the MFB series but he was equal with Gingka and destroyed Masemunae I think 2-3 times without effort. So for S-Normal Gingka, Rygua, Kenta, Kyoya, Chris, King, Masemunae, Aguma, Diamais, Faust and Helios. What do you think of this God Draguler, Zeutron?
Edit: Wait a minute, is the teir list about MFB? Or Burst?
I agree with gold gingka and rago. Love your s tier glad to see someone else acknowledge my boi Helios (as I said an my quote I love that guy he should've been an masters or fury ) . I think we can drop tsubasa, Damian, dashan and Julian an the S tier but that's a personal opinion though. as for yuki drop that guy an b (yea I despised the guy lol)
(Apr. 06, 2021 7:21 PM)God Dragruler Wrote:(Apr. 06, 2021 2:28 PM)MasterChef Wrote: For SS obviously Gold Gingka and Rago go there, In the S teir all legendary bladers but for Yuki, I think he should go etheir A or B. Also S can include Faust and Helios from the MFB movie. I know Helios isn't really part of the MFB series but he was equal with Gingka and destroyed Masemunae I think 2-3 times without effort. So for S-Normal Gingka, Rygua, Kenta, Kyoya, Chris, King, Masemunae, Aguma, Diamais, Faust and Helios. What do you think of this God Draguler, Zeutron?
Edit: Wait a minute, is the teir list about MFB? Or Burst?
I agree with gold gingka and rago. Love your s tier glad to see someone else acknowledge my boi Helios (as I said an my quote I love that guy he should've been an masters or fury ) . I think we can drop tsubasa, Damian, dashan and Julian an the S tier but that's a personal opinion though. as for yuki drop that guy an b (yea I despised the guy lol)
Tubasa, Damian, Dasahian and Julian can go S-teir cause those bladers were the best/strongest bladers in the championship after Gingka and Masemnae. And Yuki, honestly he should go C, he did nothing execpt scream at the top of his lugns that made him a a legendary blader(And got dominated by Rugua after that).
S teir-Normal Gingka, Rygua, Kenta, Kyoya, Chris, King, Masemunae, Aguma, Diamais, Faust, Helios, Tubasa, Damian, Dasahian and Julian.