(Jul. 30, 2020 2:47 PM)Admiral W Wrote: (Jul. 30, 2020 2:43 PM)snoc Wrote: I keep proving to you over and over yet you keep denying it like I'm not proving my points. Lets just agree to disagree.
You haven't proven anything. You keep stating things without anything to back it up. You keep saying things are implied. Gwyn didn't really have anything that those other bladers didn't have. He had a powerful bey and a powerful resonance. Both Delta and Drum have those things and it still took them awhile to arrive at their level of power.
Yes i did. Its heavily implied he made those strategies, and a lot of it is just common sense, but whatever. Since you wont stop, I'll just have to lay everything out again so you can understand what I'm trying to say.
Lets look at Gwyn
1. Gwyn made research papers on Hyperphysics.
2. After seeing arthur battle it is heavily implied he researched other beys, but after that he used his research on hyper physics to make the power core theory. This is a jump not in power, but just a good head start.
3. He completed the power core theory to make Hybrid, then added Mugen Lock to make the Genesis layer from arthur. Using mugen lock is another headstart since he didnt have to develop it on his own.
4. At first Gwyn didn't really know how to launch, but after being taught he just went with his beys abilities and his research to beta people for the time being
5. After some battles Genesis opened up to him. Now Gwyn can talk to Genesis strengthening bonds with helps strength, and also can make more calculations and stuff with Genesis' help. This is a reasonable jump in power.
6.Gwyn crushed a ton of bladers knowing Drum would come battle him. After calculating everything he knew the outcome of the battle, but still lost due to Delta's interference (Delta only did that in the manga, but its the source material so we'll go with that. Dragon would still have broke if it wasn't for Delta, Gwyn wasn't wrong.)
7.Drum is weak so Gwyn goes to join Hell. During this time if you use common sense and its implied, you would know Gwyn was preparing by making more strategies and such. This is a jump in power and a reasonable one since Gwyn has more strategies up his sleeve. He can use these to obviously win.
8.During their final battle Gwyn pushes his limits. In doing so he's able to perfect some strategies. This is also a reasonable big jump, since he perfects and uses his strategies (like the shield) he already made, and used his full power so hes obviously gonna be alot stronger.
As you can see its very obvious that by going through all of this planning ang growing stronger and stronger constantly, Gwyn would end up stronger than Drum and Delta. Now lets look at Drum.
1.Drum is at BC Sol. He has problems launching and stuff but he's still good. He makes Dragon with Raul and goes to Japan.
2.Drum battles Amane with his new bey. He's a bit shaky at first but beats Amane with his new special move.
3.Drum battles Fumiya and loses. After this drum does serious training and learns how to launch properly and make strategies.
4. Drum knows Wizard has high friction so he smash it into a wall and wins his Fumiya rematch.
5. By going through more and more tough battles and exploiting weaknesses and growing with Dragon, Drum slowly grows and improves over time.
6. At the battle with Aiga Arthur interferes. Arthur breaks Dragon.
7.After seeing the Power Core system Drum completes it and makes Dragon. Its a jump in power. but he cant use it well yet.
8. At HELL Drum perfects his use of Dragon. There is no significant jumps in power level here, Drum just used the stuff he already had to win.
9. Drum prepares for the final battle after losing to Gwyn. There is a small jump in power after Training.
10. During the final battle Drum has a small jump in power awakening Dragon. With the power of friendship they beat HELL.
11. When evolving to Tempest Drum gets a small jump in power.
As you should now be able to tell, Drum has a very slow, gradually rise in Power. Gwyn had a lot of big jumps for various reasons, so he was quickly able to be stronger than Drum and Delta. Now I am done with this conversation, I don't feel like continuing it since its already been going for like 2 days lol.