When he uses it to counter Tempest Break, its on a level plane just like when he used it against Mirage Claw.

Also for Infinite Buster his bey goes down

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Well this sucks

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It’s slightly taller than Dragon. Notice how it’s also tilting more when than Dragon is.

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Not bad eh?

Wait I forgot something Achilles back in Cho-Z when he said Super Z Sword two large energy blades come out not 4

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Those are kinda blurry but it looks like a head on clash with both.

I cannot see it. it is to blurry

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GODZILLA IS THE BEST THING EVER!!!! KONG SUCKS!!!
GODZILLA 4 LIFE!!!!! GODZILLA CLUB GO!!!!!!

Achilles doesnt use 4 blades when he does a sword move

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So as I was saying in the previous thread, I think that's Infinite Buster. The official site lits all of Aiger's special moves and the only ones it's lists are Infinite Guard, Buster and Attack.

Tap on the image for Dragon vs Achilles you will see that Achilles is definitely slightly taller. They are definitely both special moves. It’s possible that sword and buster are interchangeable. Either that or the site has an error. It’s definitely also possible that it’s an anime error but it’s hard to say.

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Not bad eh?

Super Tornado is basically Glide Tornado only stronger.
P.S.: Alot of bladers use the same move except with different names like for example Tsubasa says Counter Stance and sometimes he says Counter Smash same move but different names

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So as I was saying in the previous thread, I think that's Infinite Buster. The official site lits all of Aiger's special moves and the only ones it's lists are Infinite Guard, Buster and Attack.

Tap on the image for Dragon vs Achilles you will see that Achilles is definitely slightly taller. They are definitely both special moves. It’s possible that sword and buster are interchangeable. Either that or the site has an error.

Those were kinda blurry so I took some screenshots and looked at them. In both cases it seemed to me that Achilles was on a level plane with it's opponent. I think it's the same move.

super tonado vs glide tornado. super is stronger

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GODZILLA IS THE BEST THING EVER!!!! KONG SUCKS!!!
GODZILLA 4 LIFE!!!!! GODZILLA CLUB GO!!!!!!

Tap on the image for Dragon vs Achilles you will see that Achilles is definitely slightly taller. They are definitely both special moves. It’s possible that sword and buster are interchangeable. Either that or the site has an error.

Those were kinda blurry so I took some screenshots and looked at them. In both cases it seemed to me that Achilles was on a level plane with it's opponent. I think it's the same move.

They are definitely hitting head on but Achilles seemed to be tilting more as the left side of its layer is extended farther upward than Dragons in the shot. The thing is, it’s in the nature of sword to hit perfectly head on so it shouldn’t  be buster in the first place.

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Not bad eh?

of course.... strongest moves are perfomed by type of bey

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GODZILLA IS THE BEST THING EVER!!!! KONG SUCKS!!!
GODZILLA 4 LIFE!!!!! GODZILLA CLUB GO!!!!!!

Funny tho Achilles did those moves on 2 dragon beys.

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Those were kinda blurry so I took some screenshots and looked at them. In both cases it seemed to me that Achilles was on a level plane with it's opponent. I think it's the same move.

They are definitely hitting head on but Achilles seemed to be tilting more as the left side of its layer is extended farther upward than Dragons in the shot. The thing is, it’s in the nature of sword to hit perfectly head on so it shouldn’t  be buster in the first place.

Well they had to distinguish it from the part itself which I understand. I think it's probably Infinite Buster given the use of the same animation and what the site lists. Who knows.

They are definitely hitting head on but Achilles seemed to be tilting more as the left side of its layer is extended farther upward than Dragons in the shot. The thing is, it’s in the nature of sword to hit perfectly head on so it shouldn’t  be buster in the first place.

Well they had to distinguish it from the part itself which I understand. I think it's probably Infinite Buster given the use of the same animation and what the site lists. Who knows.

Just watched ep 51 of turbo again and buster can definitely hit head on some times. I think it was either a mistake or the driver was in a different height stance. Either way the moves are almost the same and effectively interchangeable.

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Not bad eh?

Predictions for manga from this months chapter to the end of the Hikaru and Hyuga arc.

Spoiler (Click to View)

Chapter 12: The Incredible Sword of the Legend Valt faces the Demon!!
Hikaru's dive bomb knocks Lucius away and Lain gets mad and goes full power. The pummeling cracks Helios and Valt can't bear to watch it anymore so he launches Valtryek into the ring. It bounds away Lucius and hits it with a Rush Launch but then Lucius uses its driver to drift and dodge it. After that Valt unveils a new move Brave Jet. Essentially Winged Launch but Brave Valtryek (its Brave Jet because Winged Launch is originally called Jet Shoot). Lucius is bursted, and Lain feels a weird mix of anger and despair. Shu quickly sees the moment to strike and rushes down to Lain. He apologizes for being to harsh and thinks about the affect it must've had on Lain. Shu pledges to be a better teacher, and Lain ends up breaking down into tears. Shu and Lain return to the Red Bulls, and a tattered Hikaru with a cracked bey returns to Hyuga. Hyuga is very surprised to see Helios' condition.

(Special) Chapter 13: Hyuga Zooms Through the Graveyard of Despair!!
Hikaru is unable to blade and Hyuga wants to get strong like Hyuga and starts intensely training but just falls flat on his butt. Hikaru talks about how he replaced Rantaro as a Legend however Lain joining pushed him out so he would need to face Daigo to take back the #15 spot. As they're saying this Daigo comes in for a bite to eat. Hyuga recognizes him as the guy Hikaru was talking about and wants to challenge him. Daigo first wants to eat but is persuaded to fight. Hyperion fiercely attacks Doomscizor which activates it to smash into Hyperion with into metal double strike. Hyperion is knocked back into a wall and bounds himself away towards Doomscizor. Doomscizor also rushes towards Hyperion after bounding towards it using double strike. Hikaru is watching the battle and tears up since the moment to face Daigo was right here but he can't blade. Both beys clash and its a double ring out. after a short time skip everyone's eating and having a good time.

Chapter 14: Breaking Kerbeus' Anti-Chocking Chains of madness!!
Hyuga soars through the ranks after tons of battles and hits #5 in A Rank. Hikaru is happy for him and jusr met Rantaro to get his bey fixed. He wants to battle and breaks away from Hyuga to find someone. Hyuga thinks about how he's always left in the dust and nows his time to shine. Ranjiro and Rantaro sneak up behind Hyuga and scold him, saying that a toxic mentality to have. Hyuga isn't left in the dust behind Hikaru, Hyuga and Hikaru's lines of progression are different and Hyuga is his own blader. Hikaru accidentally ventures into an alleyway and gets scared by someone who just happens to be Ken. Ken says he recognizes Hikaru as someone Valt told him about and Hikaru wants to battle Ken. In short Helios pummels Kerbeus, Kerbeus absorbs all the hits, Helios goes to bound it away instead and it hits the wall and bursts. Hikaru makes friends with Ken and goes to meet up with a now determined Hyuga.

Chapter 15: The Epic Battle against the Best!!
Hikaru and Hyuga reflect on all the past events and where they are now. Hikaru has overtaken Wakiya and is Legend Rank 14 meanwhile Hyuga surpassed Daigo and is now legend rank #15. They have a practice battle but its interrupted by Valt, Dante, and Aiger. these guys want to have a big Battle Royale, with Hikaur and Hyuga included. They agree to it and start the long battle.

(Special) Chapter 16: The Mystery Blader!!
To put it simply the winner of the election runs into Hikaru and Hyuga and fights Hikaru .This takes place before Chapter 15.

Chapter 17: The Finale of a Journey!! Everyone's Bonds Collide Into a Sparking Explosion!!
The first round ends with Valt winning but Valtryek is cracked. Luckily he has a new Limit Break Valtryek in his pocket. Everyone is surprised by the sudden new bey and Valt decides he'll use it form now on. Anyways the battle continues. Everyone has their own epic moment in the battle and each of them reflects on all the past events as a retelling of the series up to this point. There's a final clash with a flash of light which lights up the night sky with sparks and shatters glass that flying the air with the sparks. In the reflections of the glass we can see Everyone has a surprised or intrigued expression on their face. Beyblade Burst Surge officially ends and transitions to a 20 year old Valt who comes across a excited boy who's a big Valt fan. Valt tells the boy if he follows his dreams he can be a strong blader too.

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Predictions for manga from this months chapter to the end of the Hikaru and Hyuga arc.

Spoiler (Click to View)

Chapter 12: The Incredible Sword of the Legend Valt faces the Demon!!
Hikaru's dive bomb knocks Lucius away and Lain gets mad and goes full power. The pummeling cracks Helios and Valt can't bear to watch it anymore so he launches Valtryek into the ring. It bounds away Lucius and hits it with a Rush Launch but then Lucius uses its driver to drift and dodge it. After that Valt unveils a new move Brave Jet. Essentially Winged Launch but Brave Valtryek (its Brave Jet because Winged Launch is originally called Jet Shoot). Lucius is bursted, and Lain feels a weird mix of anger and despair. Shu quickly sees the moment to strike and rushes down to Lain. He apologizes for being to harsh and thinks about the affect it must've had on Lain. Shu pledges to be a better teacher, and Lain ends up breaking down into tears. Shu and Lain return to the Red Bulls, and a tattered Hikaru with a cracked bey returns to Hyuga. Hyuga is very surprised to see Helios' condition.

(Special) Chapter 13: Hyuga Zooms Through the Graveyard of Despair!!
Hikaru is unable to blade and Hyuga wants to get strong like Hyuga and starts intensely training but just falls flat on his butt. Hikaru talks about how he replaced Rantaro as a Legend however Lain joining pushed him out so he would need to face Daigo to take back the #15 spot. As they're saying this Daigo comes in for a bite to eat. Hyuga recognizes him as the guy Hikaru was talking about and wants to challenge him. Daigo first wants to eat but is persuaded to fight. Hyperion fiercely attacks Doomscizor which activates it to smash into Hyperion with into metal double strike. Hyperion is knocked back into a wall and bounds himself away towards Doomscizor. Doomscizor also rushes towards Hyperion after bounding towards it using double strike. Hikaru is watching the battle and tears up since the moment to face Daigo was right here but he can't blade. Both beys clash and its a double ring out. after a short time skip everyone's eating and having a good time.

Chapter 14: Breaking Kerbeus' Anti-Chocking Chains of madness!!
Hyuga soars through the ranks after tons of battles and hits #5 in A Rank. Hikaru is happy for him and jusr met Rantaro to get his bey fixed. He wants to battle and breaks away from Hyuga to find someone. Hyuga thinks about how he's always left in the dust and nows his time to shine. Ranjiro and Rantaro sneak up behind Hyuga and scold him, saying that a toxic mentality to have. Hyuga isn't left in the dust behind Hikaru, Hyuga and Hikaru's lines of progression are different and Hyuga is his own blader. Hikaru accidentally ventures into an alleyway and gets scared by someone who just happens to be Ken. Ken says he recognizes Hikaru as  someone Valt told him about and Hikaru wants to battle Ken. In short Helios pummels Kerbeus, Kerbeus absorbs all the hits, Helios goes to bound it away instead and it hits the wall and bursts. Hikaru makes friends with Ken and goes to meet up with a now determined Hyuga.

Chapter 15: The Epic Battle against the Best!!
Hikaru and Hyuga reflect on all the past events and where they are now. Hikaru has overtaken Wakiya and is Legend Rank 14 meanwhile Hyuga surpassed Daigo and is now legend rank #15. They have a practice battle but its interrupted by Valt, Dante, and Aiger. these guys want to have a big Battle Royale, with Hikaur and Hyuga included. They agree to it and start the long battle.

(Special) Chapter 16: The Mystery Blader!!
To put it simply the winner of the election runs into Hikaru and Hyuga and fights Hikaru .This takes place before Chapter 15.

Chapter 17: The Finale of a Journey!! Everyone's Bonds Collide Into a Sparking Explosion!!
The first round ends with Valt winning but Valtryek is cracked. Luckily he has a new Limit Break Valtryek in his pocket. Everyone is surprised by the sudden new bey and Valt decides he'll use it form now on. Anyways the battle continues. Everyone has their own epic moment in the battle and each of them reflects on all the past events as a retelling of the series up to this point. There's a final clash with a flash of light which lights up the night sky with sparks and shatters glass that flying the air with the sparks. In the reflections of the glass we can see Everyone has a surprised or intrigued expression on their face. Beyblade Burst Surge officially ends and transitions to a 20 year old Valt who comes across a excited boy who's a big Valt fan. Valt tells the boy if he follows his dreams he can be a strong blader too.

Spoiler (Click to View)

Nice but a couple of things, If ken making an appearance implies he is the defense booster that isn’t possible since it is a legend bey. Also, I don’t think Daigo would tie in his first introduction match since they wanna promote his bey. 

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Not bad eh?

Well they had to distinguish it from the part itself which I understand. I think it's probably Infinite Buster given the use of the same animation and what the site lists. Who knows.

Just watched ep 51 of turbo again and buster can definitely hit head on some times. I think it was either a mistake or the driver was in a different height stance. Either way the moves are almost the same and effectively interchangeable.

Who can say. They look and preform the same to me.

With the Infinite Sword, Achilles channels energy through the Infinite Ring and generates four flaming energy blades to deal a powerful strike against the opposite beyblade.
Description of Infinite Sword (Special Move)
Set in Attack Mode with the Infinite Sword, Achilles generates four flame blades and strike opposing beyblade with all its might, like Z Breaker, Turbo Breaker, and Unison Breaker.
Description of Infinite Buster

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Just watched ep 51 of turbo again and buster can definitely hit head on some times. I think it was either a mistake or the driver was in a different height stance. Either way the moves are almost the same and effectively interchangeable.

Who can say. They look and preform the same to me.

I guess we just gotta wait and see. If he uses Buster or both Buster and Sword after this then it’s a given that they are more less different moves due to circumstances, if it’s sword that continues to appear then they probably are the same move. If Aiga ever happens to use an infinite upper that would also confirm the suspicions.

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Not bad eh?

Maybe they should have done Infinite Dive lol

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Onto the battle itself. I think having Free and Aiger draw made perfect sense.

I've had this on my mind for a while. Was Samurai Pegasus stronger or at least slightly stronger than Big Bang Pegasus? I mean, it was made from Big Bang so it should at least retain all and if not, most of the material Big Bang Pegasus was made up of.

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"I lived with you for twenty years; how many deeds, events, and men went by! Today I remember them, each and everyone. I still have, for Alfa (Romeo), the tenderness of a first love. The pure affection of a child for his mother."

-Enzo Ferrari 

Well that certainly did not help Aiger tying with Free but at least he didnt lose pathetically unlike last time

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