Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts

(Oct. 07, 2020  9:09 PM)Zeutron Wrote:
(Oct. 07, 2020  8:57 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: I think it’s hard to say. Rago defeated Ryuga with ease with less than half power (Pluto states so in the anime). Nothing Ryuga can really do as Proto nemesis is L/R so he can’t spin steal, and any attack would be useless as Proto Nemesis would return straight to the center.
Was it LR in the anime?

Nope, but we know that the anime is made to promote the products so if it were to be launched it probably would be L/R. In the anime it is also seen spinning left against Gingka and the others (this may be an animation mistake however)
(Oct. 07, 2020  8:57 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:
(Oct. 07, 2020  8:54 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Yeah it was but that’s the thing. Without that ability Rago wouldn’t have been able to evolve into diablo nemesis and as a result would lose to Ryuga.

I think it’s hard to say. Rago defeated Ryuga with ease with less than half power (Pluto states so in the anime). Nothing Ryuga can really do as Proto nemesis is L/R so he can’t spin steal, and any attack would be useless as Proto Nemesis would return straight to the center.

I don't think Ryuga would be stronger than Rago even without absorbed powers, but if Rago didn't have the ability to absorb other's powers, then Ryuga would just absorb all his powers and win.
(Oct. 07, 2020  10:08 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote:
(Oct. 07, 2020  8:57 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: I think it’s hard to say. Rago defeated Ryuga with ease with less than half power (Pluto states so in the anime). Nothing Ryuga can really do as Proto nemesis is L/R so he can’t spin steal, and any attack would be useless as Proto Nemesis would return straight to the center.

I don't think Ryuga would be stronger than Rago even without absorbed powers, but if Rago didn't have the ability to absorb other's powers, then Ryuga would just absorb all his powers and win.

We see that Ryuga can’t absorb Nemesis’s powers. If Ryuha can absorb others powers and Nemesis can’t don’t you think that’s unfair?
(Oct. 07, 2020  10:10 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:
(Oct. 07, 2020  10:08 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote: I don't think Ryuga would be stronger than Rago even without absorbed powers, but if Rago didn't have the ability to absorb other's powers, then Ryuga would just absorb all his powers and win.

We see that Ryuga can’t absorb Nemesis’s powers. If Ryuha can absorb others powers and Nemesis can’t don’t you think that’s unfair?

He did actually absorb a little of his powers, but Rago absorbed Ryuga's power back along with everything he had.

And what do you think would happen if Damian used Hades gate against Nemesis?
(Oct. 07, 2020  10:11 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote:
(Oct. 07, 2020  10:10 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: We see that Ryuga can’t absorb Nemesis’s powers. If Ryuha can absorb others powers and Nemesis can’t don’t you think that’s unfair?

He did actually absorb a little of his powers, but Rago absorbed Ryuga's power back along with everything he had.

And what do you think would happen if Damian used Hades gate against Nemesis?

If Damian used Hades gate against Nemesis Nemesis would probably get out of it as Nemesis is OP (he was the final boss, what everything was leading up to)
(Oct. 07, 2020  10:17 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:
(Oct. 07, 2020  10:11 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote: He did actually absorb a little of his powers, but Rago absorbed Ryuga's power back along with everything he had.

And what do you think would happen if Damian used Hades gate against Nemesis?

If Damian used Hades gate against Nemesis Nemesis would probably get out of it as Nemesis is OP (he was the final boss, what everything was leading up to)

Yeah, true and he would possibly literally tear the Hades dimension/planet apart completely so it wouldn't exist anymore, judging by the fact that he almost destroyed the real world.
(Oct. 07, 2020  10:22 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote:
(Oct. 07, 2020  10:17 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: If Damian used Hades gate against Nemesis Nemesis would probably get out of it as Nemesis is OP (he was the final boss, what everything was leading up to)

Yeah, true and he would possibly literally tear the Hades dimension/planet apart completely so it wouldn't exist anymore, judging by the fact that he almost destroyed the real world.
Yeah Rago possesses a predetermined unfair amount of power and was also pretty much predetermined to only be beatable in a certain number of ways meaning he was definitely the best blader in the series (in a way), although his advantage was given to him via a prophecy so it’s kinda unfair to compare him to other bladers as his power is inherited as opposed to actually earned. In other words, he would annihilate Damian. The actual strongest (of the first three seasons) would be Ryuga with Gingka being a close second. I know that calling Gingka a close second seems odd but he’s actually not as far from Ryuga as people think (the Manga conveys this better). By the time of Zero G, I’m pretty sure Gingka is undoubtedly the strongest blader to ever exist (excluding synchrone users and Rago) even more so than Ryuga (again the manga implies this a lot more).
Did anyone think at the end of Rise Delta being referee for the battle royals felt like a callback to the first battle in the beginning of the season?
(Oct. 07, 2020  8:57 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:
(Oct. 07, 2020  8:54 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Yeah it was but that’s the thing. Without that ability Rago wouldn’t have been able to evolve into diablo nemesis and as a result would lose to Ryuga.

I think it’s hard to say. Rago defeated Ryuga with ease with less than half power (Pluto states so in the anime). Nothing Ryuga can really do as Proto nemesis is L/R so he can’t spin steal, and any attack would be useless as Proto Nemesis would return straight to the center.

In the starting he only used half power but after that Nemesis was using full power. Remeber even after Ryuga used full powers on ultimate move, in order to beat ryuga he had to use his special move

(Oct. 08, 2020  4:28 AM)Zeutron Wrote:
(Oct. 07, 2020  10:22 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote: Yeah, true and he would possibly literally tear the Hades dimension/planet apart completely so it wouldn't exist anymore, judging by the fact that he almost destroyed the real world.
Yeah Rago possesses a predetermined unfair amount of power and was also pretty much predetermined to only be beatable in a certain number of ways meaning he was definitely the best blader in the series (in a way), although his advantage was given to him via a prophecy so it’s kinda unfair to compare him to other bladers as his power is inherited as opposed to actually earned. In other words, he would annihilate Damian. The actual strongest (of the first three seasons) would be Ryuga with Gingka being a close second. I know that calling Gingka a close second seems odd but he’s actually not as far from Ryuga as people think (the Manga conveys this better). By the time of Zero G, I’m pretty sure Gingka is undoubtedly the strongest blader to ever exist (excluding synchrone users and Rago) even more so than Ryuga (again the manga implies this a lot more).

Ryuga is ten times stronger than Gingka. Dude he almost beat neemsis with his own power, Nemesis had to use special move to defeat him even after he used his full power. Gingka is definelty weaker than ryuga.


WHo would win? Metal Masters Ryuga vrs. Full potential Kira?

(Oct. 07, 2020  10:11 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote:
(Oct. 07, 2020  10:10 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: We see that Ryuga can’t absorb Nemesis’s powers. If Ryuha can absorb others powers and Nemesis can’t don’t you think that’s unfair?

He did actually absorb a little of his powers, but Rago absorbed Ryuga's power back along with everything he had.

And what do you think would happen if Damian used Hades gate against Nemesis?

The reason why ryuga couldn't aborbse nemesis powers' was because it was too mcuh power to control. Rago said this when Ryuga was trying to steal power from him, "Foolish Human, you can't hope to control this amount of power, your powers will also be added to the God of Destruction's powers"
(Oct. 08, 2020  1:58 PM)Ryuga's Son Wrote:
(Oct. 07, 2020  8:57 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: I think it’s hard to say. Rago defeated Ryuga with ease with less than half power (Pluto states so in the anime). Nothing Ryuga can really do as Proto nemesis is L/R so he can’t spin steal, and any attack would be useless as Proto Nemesis would return straight to the center.

In the starting he only used half power but after that Nemesis was using full power. Remeber even after Ryuga used full powers on ultimate move, in order to beat ryuga he had to use his special move

(Oct. 08, 2020  4:28 AM)Zeutron Wrote: Yeah Rago possesses a predetermined unfair amount of power and was also pretty much predetermined to only be beatable in a certain number of ways meaning he was definitely the best blader in the series (in a way), although his advantage was given to him via a prophecy so it’s kinda unfair to compare him to other bladers as his power is inherited as opposed to actually earned. In other words, he would annihilate Damian. The actual strongest (of the first three seasons) would be Ryuga with Gingka being a close second. I know that calling Gingka a close second seems odd but he’s actually not as far from Ryuga as people think (the Manga conveys this better). By the time of Zero G, I’m pretty sure Gingka is undoubtedly the strongest blader to ever exist (excluding synchrone users and Rago) even more so than Ryuga (again the manga implies this a lot more).

Ryuga is ten times stronger than Gingka. Dude he almost beat neemsis with his own power, Nemesis had to use special move to defeat him even after he used his full power. Gingka is definelty weaker than ryuga.


WHo would win? Metal Masters Ryuga vrs. Full potential Kira?

(Oct. 07, 2020  10:11 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote: He did actually absorb a little of his powers, but Rago absorbed Ryuga's power back along with everything he had.

And what do you think would happen if Damian used Hades gate against Nemesis?

The reason why ryuga couldn't aborbse nemesis powers' was because it was too mcuh power to control. Rago said this when Ryuga was trying to steal power from him, "Foolish Human, you can't hope to control this amount of power, your powers will also be added to the God of Destruction's powers"

He only used Armageddon to “reward” Ryuga for keeping up with him at less than 50% (as stated by Pluto). It’s kind of like when Beerus 2 hit KO’d Goku.
(Oct. 08, 2020  2:21 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:
(Oct. 08, 2020  1:58 PM)Ryuga's Son Wrote: In the starting he only used half power but after that Nemesis was using full power. Remeber even after Ryuga used full powers on ultimate move, in order to beat ryuga he had to use his special move


Ryuga is ten times stronger than Gingka. Dude he almost beat neemsis with his own power, Nemesis had to use special move to defeat him even after he used his full power. Gingka is definelty weaker than ryuga.


WHo would win? Metal Masters Ryuga vrs. Full potential Kira?


The reason why ryuga couldn't aborbse nemesis powers' was because it was too mcuh power to control. Rago said this when Ryuga was trying to steal power from him, "Foolish Human, you can't hope to control this amount of power, your powers will also be added to the God of Destruction's powers"

He only used Armageddon to “reward” Ryuga for keeping up with him at less than 50% (as stated by Pluto). It’s kind of like when Beerus 2 hit KO’d Goku.

I dotn think so
(Oct. 08, 2020  2:39 PM)Ryuga's Son Wrote:
(Oct. 08, 2020  2:21 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: He only used Armageddon to “reward” Ryuga for keeping up with him at less than 50% (as stated by Pluto). It’s kind of like when Beerus 2 hit KO’d Goku.

I dotn think so

In the anime he says that Ryuga had come really far by withstanding his basic attacks. Rago then says come and get your reward.
(Oct. 08, 2020  2:47 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:
(Oct. 08, 2020  2:39 PM)Ryuga's Son Wrote: I dotn think so

In the anime he says that Ryuga had come really far by withstanding his basic attacks. Rago then says come and get your reward.

If he didn't do special move, ryuga would have still survivded from attack
(Oct. 08, 2020  5:26 PM)Ryuga's Son Wrote:
(Oct. 08, 2020  2:47 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: In the anime he says that Ryuga had come really far by withstanding his basic attacks. Rago then says come and get your reward.

If he didn't do special move, ryuga would have still survivded from attack

Rago tanked Ryuga’s ultimate move.
(Oct. 08, 2020  5:41 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:
(Oct. 08, 2020  5:26 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: If he didn't do special move, ryuga would have still survivded from attack

Rago tanked Ryuga’s ultimate move.

I wonder why Ryuga didn't use the meteor showers that look like a nuclear blast because Gingka himself said tha the Earth is just a tiny beystadium looking from space. So it's possible he would defeat Rago using that.

Who do you think would win between Masamune in Beyblade Metal Fury and Damian?
(Oct. 08, 2020  5:50 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote:
(Oct. 08, 2020  5:41 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Rago tanked Ryuga’s ultimate move.

I wonder why Ryuga didn't use the meteor showers that look like a nuclear blast because Gingka himself said tha the Earth is just a tiny beystadium looking from space. So it's possible he would defeat Rago using that.

Who do you think would win between Masamune in Beyblade Metal Fury and Damian?

How would Meteor Showers defeat Rago? Also Masamune from Fury would win (he did barely lose to Variares)
(Oct. 08, 2020  1:58 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote:
(Oct. 07, 2020  8:57 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: I think it’s hard to say. Rago defeated Ryuga with ease with less than half power (Pluto states so in the anime). Nothing Ryuga can really do as Proto nemesis is L/R so he can’t spin steal, and any attack would be useless as Proto Nemesis would return straight to the center.

In the starting he only used half power but after that Nemesis was using full power. Remeber even after Ryuga used full powers on ultimate move, in order to beat ryuga he had to use his special move

(Oct. 08, 2020  4:28 AM)Zeutron Wrote: Yeah Rago possesses a predetermined unfair amount of power and was also pretty much predetermined to only be beatable in a certain number of ways meaning he was definitely the best blader in the series (in a way), although his advantage was given to him via a prophecy so it’s kinda unfair to compare him to other bladers as his power is inherited as opposed to actually earned. In other words, he would annihilate Damian. The actual strongest (of the first three seasons) would be Ryuga with Gingka being a close second. I know that calling Gingka a close second seems odd but he’s actually not as far from Ryuga as people think (the Manga conveys this better). By the time of Zero G, I’m pretty sure Gingka is undoubtedly the strongest blader to ever exist (excluding synchrone users and Rago) even more so than Ryuga (again the manga implies this a lot more).

Ryuga is ten times stronger than Gingka. Dude he almost beat neemsis with his own power, Nemesis had to use special move to defeat him even after he used his full power. Gingka is definelty weaker than ryuga.


WHo would win? Metal Masters Ryuga vrs. Full potential Kira?

(Oct. 07, 2020  10:11 PM)Freedelahoya4 Wrote: He did actually absorb a little of his powers, but Rago absorbed Ryuga's power back along with everything he had.

And what do you think would happen if Damian used Hades gate against Nemesis?

The reason why ryuga couldn't aborbse nemesis powers' was because it was too mcuh power to control. Rago said this when Ryuga was trying to steal power from him, "Foolish Human,  you can't hope to control this amount of power, your powers will also be added to the God of Destruction's powers"
Rago was playing around with Ryuga for the most part. If you play close attention to the manga and anime we can see that Gingka was definitely a close second to Ryuga and even in their final battle he nearly won. From a normal glance it appears like Ryuga dominates but storywise paying attention will allow you to notice that despite his immense power, Gingka is around his grounding. Mr Takafumi himself once said that Gingka was the strongest blader to exist by the time of Zero g (he was excluding Rago for logical reasons but the point is delivered).
What ever happened to the rest of the legends? I know that King went to Masamune’s team, Kyoya went off to train, so what happened to the rest?
(Oct. 08, 2020  6:36 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: What ever happened to the rest of the legends? I know that King went to Masamune’s team, Kyoya went off to train, so what happened to the rest?

Who told you that King went on to Masamune's team? And i also wonder what happened to the rest. Maybe they died because their roles as legendary bladers were finished.
I just notice of episode 28 of Beyblade Burst Sparking when they where showing the matchups of the semi-finals that When they showed Valt that Brave Valkyrie seemed to have another driver
I have question. When Gingka defeated Rago/Diablo Nemesis, he was given powers of all the bladers in the world. But what about Jack and Damian then? What about Reiji? Did people like them also give their pwoer to Gingka?
(Oct. 08, 2020  6:49 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: I just notice of episode 28 of Beyblade Burst Sparking when they where showing the matchups of the semi-finals that When they showed Valt that Brave Valkyrie seemed to have another driver

it's an animation error  instead of evolution it was charge it also happen with spriggan last episode instead of unite the put dimension.
Lol this basically turned into a what would happen if Ryuga battled... thread
Who would win? Reji vrs Damian and Reji vrs Helios?
(Oct. 09, 2020  5:48 PM)Ryuga\s Son Wrote: Who would win? Reji vrs Damian and Reji vrs Helios?

Reiji vs Damian is interesting. It would be a close battle. Both are very strong. It could be either. If we look at the Beyblade's strength without special moves, then Hades Kerbecs is stronger but if we look at special moves, Reiji has serpent poison and nobody can stand being poisoned regardless of their strength. Reiji would propably poison the 3-headed dog even when he was in hades. Then it all depends on time and stamina. Remember that the poison from serpent takes time to take effect. If Reiji loses his stamina before it takes effect, then Damian would win if not then Reiji would get out of hades gate as the dog would become ill and kerbecs wouldn't be able to keep hades gate anymore and Reiji would win. But either way, even if Damian technically won, his beyblade would be destroyed in the long run.

Reiji vs Helios: Helios

Who do you think would win of these:

Ryuga vs Bakin
Damian vs Bakin
Kyoua vs Baihu
Baihu vs Damian
Helios vs Tithi