Character development : it was not optimal, for certain, but I am not certain there was none at all. As for uniqueness, I have to admit Zero-G was really getting there.
Random Beyblade Anime and Manga Thoughts
The character uniqueness issue was probably why Metal Fight is lower than the other two above it, not to mention better story than it and better scripts, why is Zero G and Beywheelz tied? Here's some reasons of what each has of good and bad:
Zero G:
Character - In terms of CHARACTER uniqueness it's definitely it's strongest point, I mean Kira and Yoshio, no Dragon emperor as a main villain, hallaluya! Although now I got to go back on that statement, Sakyo is such a cliche, I know Ryuga like characters were done only once but why almost rehash a character, dragon emperors don't lend themselves well to episodes, they are so broken and destroy everyone in their way and it's not always fun, it can be monotonous, characters like Shinobu, Akuya, Yoshio and Kira are probably the best characters in the series because of their uniqueness, although they don't really stand up to Kai or such, though Shinobu is way better than Kyoya in 4D and all are better than Tyson in V-Force, all in all the characters are not all that great and some characters are pretty cliché ones, well Beywheelz is WAY worse, but hey no stupid Hilary so yay.
Plot - You can't tell me that the plot is original, it's a lousy rehash of Metal Fight Beyblade, but it's nowhere near as enjoyable, wow a "Neo" Battle Bladers that sure differentiates the concept, but seriously the plot is so cliche from the first series IMO, and there is a Dark Nebula like organisation but now it's DNA, there's Doji and Merci? OK why does it have to be called Merci again it's so much the same to me, I don't care if people will whine saying "Duhh it's the Metal Saga, of course it will be the same", but if it's a repeat of what was already in the Metal Saga then that's more shameful, and don't say that Metal Fight is like Beyblade 2000-2001, they are different saga's and the whole series wasn't exactly all copied.
Beywheelz:
Characters - Most of them suck! Jin is probably the best IMO since he isnt a total jerk like Ryuga and he is the calmest and pretty harmless, most of all he is not cliche, I must ask why Leon must look a little like Kyoya and act like him, I get that he owns a Leone and he must act like Kyoya automatically, no he doesn't, he can be original and still be good otherwise it seems cliche, look at Jin he holds up well, but to push this problem even worse they have a character who follows and fanboys the Leone owner, he is a big fat dum numbnuts who owns a Bull, Erm Benkei? Hello! Ugh this one is my least favourite character cliche granted he is better than Benkei. Sho is like Ginga who is a kind one who believes in all that blader spirit carp and owns a Pegasus, Ryan looks like Damian and Sting acts like Busijima, Jake is like Reiji, David and what's his name are siblings owning a Gil and Herculeo like the Gracys and the owner of Gill being Mr Tubby and the rest are generic and bland.
Plot - Not much to say, it's simple save the world and had a tournament and infiltrate base etc, it's not great as such but hey only 13 episodes, I don't have to sit through this for ages, hurrah!
OK my short review isn't that great but I needed to say this quick, all I can say is that covering these series in anything gross in the toilet would be like encasing it in gold.
Zero G:
Character - In terms of CHARACTER uniqueness it's definitely it's strongest point, I mean Kira and Yoshio, no Dragon emperor as a main villain, hallaluya! Although now I got to go back on that statement, Sakyo is such a cliche, I know Ryuga like characters were done only once but why almost rehash a character, dragon emperors don't lend themselves well to episodes, they are so broken and destroy everyone in their way and it's not always fun, it can be monotonous, characters like Shinobu, Akuya, Yoshio and Kira are probably the best characters in the series because of their uniqueness, although they don't really stand up to Kai or such, though Shinobu is way better than Kyoya in 4D and all are better than Tyson in V-Force, all in all the characters are not all that great and some characters are pretty cliché ones, well Beywheelz is WAY worse, but hey no stupid Hilary so yay.
Plot - You can't tell me that the plot is original, it's a lousy rehash of Metal Fight Beyblade, but it's nowhere near as enjoyable, wow a "Neo" Battle Bladers that sure differentiates the concept, but seriously the plot is so cliche from the first series IMO, and there is a Dark Nebula like organisation but now it's DNA, there's Doji and Merci? OK why does it have to be called Merci again it's so much the same to me, I don't care if people will whine saying "Duhh it's the Metal Saga, of course it will be the same", but if it's a repeat of what was already in the Metal Saga then that's more shameful, and don't say that Metal Fight is like Beyblade 2000-2001, they are different saga's and the whole series wasn't exactly all copied.
Beywheelz:
Characters - Most of them suck! Jin is probably the best IMO since he isnt a total jerk like Ryuga and he is the calmest and pretty harmless, most of all he is not cliche, I must ask why Leon must look a little like Kyoya and act like him, I get that he owns a Leone and he must act like Kyoya automatically, no he doesn't, he can be original and still be good otherwise it seems cliche, look at Jin he holds up well, but to push this problem even worse they have a character who follows and fanboys the Leone owner, he is a big fat dum numbnuts who owns a Bull, Erm Benkei? Hello! Ugh this one is my least favourite character cliche granted he is better than Benkei. Sho is like Ginga who is a kind one who believes in all that blader spirit carp and owns a Pegasus, Ryan looks like Damian and Sting acts like Busijima, Jake is like Reiji, David and what's his name are siblings owning a Gil and Herculeo like the Gracys and the owner of Gill being Mr Tubby and the rest are generic and bland.
Plot - Not much to say, it's simple save the world and had a tournament and infiltrate base etc, it's not great as such but hey only 13 episodes, I don't have to sit through this for ages, hurrah!
OK my short review isn't that great but I needed to say this quick, all I can say is that covering these series in anything gross in the toilet would be like encasing it in gold.
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Actually in BeyWheelz it was just like a different version of Beyblade and I think Nelvana didn't feel like giving the time they give to shows like BeyWheelz as much as their better shows. So they just used the different versions of Beyblade characters.
I kinda meant the three metal fight seasons, I never actually finished zero G because I already knew how neo battle bladers would end... Main Good guy and main bad get to the final battle and the good guy wins.
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(Jul. 22, 2014 5:11 PM)Lord Wrote: Actually in BeyWheelz it was just like a different version of Beyblade and I think Nelvana didn't feel like giving the time they give to shows like BeyWheelz as much as their better shows. So they just used the different versions of Beyblade characters.
It doesn't matter to me if they didn't bother as much, it was maybe perhaps not a good idea to make a horrendous show IMO, and see if they made different versions of already OK characters except Benkei then Beybwheelz looks extremely inferior in comparison, again expec from Benkei to Covey but I find it cliche, and if you are right then Sakyo has no excuse to be the same, it's a canon and important beyblade series.
But everyone has to understand just because they thought it was a good idea to do these "other version" characters does not make me think it's a good idea.
It's interesting how often I see Beywheelz be critisised for reusing things from MFB when MFB did the same from the original series, in many ways.
MFB did copy a lot from the old version, but beywheelz copied a lot more. I mean it was like some were the same characters with different names and minor animation changes ( the guy with leone, the guy with Pegasus, covey etc.)
(Jul. 22, 2014 8:41 PM)Dual Wrote: It's interesting how often I see Beywheelz be critisised for reusing things from MFB when MFB did the same from the original series, in many ways.
As I pointed out on my Zero G comment, they are both Metal Saga, Beywheelz and Metal fight are the same Saga and therefore a new generation encase no new fan ever saw the old school beyblade which would make Metal Fusion to them may be original, technically Metal Fight and Beywheelz are not in the same universe but to me it's directly copied from the MORE recent Metal Fight Beyblade and as I clearly mentioned before Metal Fight did not copy ALL of old gen.
EDIT: I know Metal fight partially copied the Beyblade 2001 but not by too much, character wise, it's not too similar and the plot, only partially, while Beywheelz didn't copy the plot, the characters are almost downgrade copies full blast, if you totally like Beywheelz then that's fine but even if it could be excused of copying, the series as a whole is bland and boring, if I want to criticize it for a reason that bothers me in some case then I will, but Beyraiderz is far far worse, however it's not the clichés as it's surprisingly not as much, but boy the series loves to throw barely useful characters.
EDIT: If you still don't get what I mean then think about what DRAGON KING EX said, the look of it is so minorly different therefore the whole atmosphere is similar, not to mention the background music is reused, the time difference of MFB and G-Revolution is really far and MFB/MFB Explosion to Beywheelz isn't too far, plus the series at the time was still fully focused and watched so people would have their suspicions and not forget it like some do to the old series.
(Jul. 22, 2014 8:41 PM)Dual Wrote: It's interesting how often I see Beywheelz be critisised for reusing things from MFB when MFB did the same from the original series, in many ways.
There is a difference between MFB copying from the original series and Beywheelz copying MFB. MFB is a completely new series that happens to borrow off the old gen unlike Beywheelz which actually completely borrowed off MFB. Yes MFB does have a lot of elements from the original series but it was suppose to be a new start (I think...so don't quote me on that one) and Beywheelz was borrowing of MFB WHILST MFB WAS STILL ACTIVE. I can easily say something off a different franchise like Duel Masters copied Yu-Gi-Oh which they obviously did NOT INTENTIONALLY try to do. I understand Beywheelz was trying to be familiar to MFB but lately they have produced BeyWarriors: Cyborg containing complete new and unrecognisable thigs like Inferno Drake or whatever...
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Ok, but how much work can they put into a side series? Everyone complains how bad it is, but then says they wished that the focus would be more on Beyblade itself. It's really one or the other.
In my opinion , if they weren't going to put work into it, they shouldn't have made it.
The beywheelz toyline was a flop.
The beywheelz toyline was a flop.
But they did, so...
Competitively, the toyline was horrid, but it's a lot of fun racing them up slides and such. No one have them much of a chance though.
Competitively, the toyline was horrid, but it's a lot of fun racing them up slides and such. No one have them much of a chance though.
I would have wanted them to focus on Beyblade...as the merchandise...not the anime...The anime is a total rip-off and the toys are not Beyblade related at all. I would have wanted it to be the other way round where the products are like Beyblades but the show is a little bit more original (not expecting 100% but at least try).
The toys are okay but they should be Hasbro's own franchise...not a Beyblade one...
The toys are okay but they should be Hasbro's own franchise...not a Beyblade one...
(Jul. 23, 2014 8:44 PM)Dual Wrote: But they did, so...
Competitively, the toyline was horrid, but it's a lot of fun racing them up slides and such. No one have them much of a chance though.
I actually bought one. The launchers aren't too sturdy :\. I didn't find them nearly as entertaining as beyblade.
That's strange, mine are really sturdy.
Anyway, getting a bit off topic, haha
Anyway, getting a bit off topic, haha
Can anyone answer how Black Dranzer is Dranzer F?(Not referring to how it looks like Dranzer F but how it manage to be the same as Kai's Recent upgrade, and that it was made before Kai's configuration, coincidence?)
I mean Kai created Dranzer F by himself(Or it could be Kenny) but either way, it seems like a COINCIDENCE that it's exactly the same model as Black Dranzer being Dranzer F which was made BEFORE regular Dranzer F. Kai either just remembers that model well and tell Kenny how to make it or it's a complete coincidence. It really confuses me but I think it could be simpler to be a new model to represent Black Dranzer but black Dranzer F is still nice.
If there's a difference to them then let me know.
I mean Kai created Dranzer F by himself(Or it could be Kenny) but either way, it seems like a COINCIDENCE that it's exactly the same model as Black Dranzer being Dranzer F which was made BEFORE regular Dranzer F. Kai either just remembers that model well and tell Kenny how to make it or it's a complete coincidence. It really confuses me but I think it could be simpler to be a new model to represent Black Dranzer but black Dranzer F is still nice.
If there's a difference to them then let me know.
I think they built it like Black Dranzer so Kai wouldn't have to get used to something entirely new.
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Its definitely hard G............
I,personally,think its weird.
I,personally,think its weird.
(Aug. 10, 2014 2:37 AM)Neo Wrote: I think they built it like Black Dranzer so Kai wouldn't have to get used to something entirely new.
But how did they get the design of Black Dranzer? Did his grandfather texted or emailed him? In order for Voltare to send Kai the plan for Black Dranzer, it would be convinient to send an image...which he didn't. It is a complete coincidence that Dranzer F happens to be the same as Black Dranzer even though they were made in completely different occasions and if you are going to say that Kai remembered the design of Black Dranzer throughout his life he could have built it earlier and used the model of Dranzer F. He may not have had the parts but it doesn't explain how he still manages to get Dranzer S either.
Agreed! Not even I can make AMVs with v-force!
(Aug. 10, 2014 3:54 AM)JinbeeTheShark Wrote:(Aug. 10, 2014 2:37 AM)Neo Wrote: I think they built it like Black Dranzer so Kai wouldn't have to get used to something entirely new.
But how did they get the design of Black Dranzer? Did his grandfather texted or emailed him? In order for Voltare to send Kai the plan for Black Dranzer, it would be convinient to send an image...which he didn't. It is a complete coincidence that Dranzer F happens to be the same as Black Dranzer even though they were made in completely different occasions and if you are going to say that Kai remembered the design of Black Dranzer throughout his life he could have built it earlier and used the model of Dranzer F. He may not have had the parts but it doesn't explain how he still manages to get Dranzer S either.
He probably didn't need blueprints. Kai is mysterious, you know.
(Aug. 10, 2014 6:21 AM)Neo Wrote:(Aug. 10, 2014 3:54 AM)JinbeeTheShark Wrote:(Aug. 10, 2014 2:37 AM)Neo Wrote: I think they built it like Black Dranzer so Kai wouldn't have to get used to something entirely new.
But how did they get the design of Black Dranzer? Did his grandfather texted or emailed him? In order for Voltare to send Kai the plan for Black Dranzer, it would be convinient to send an image...which he didn't. It is a complete coincidence that Dranzer F happens to be the same as Black Dranzer even though they were made in completely different occasions and if you are going to say that Kai remembered the design of Black Dranzer throughout his life he could have built it earlier and used the model of Dranzer F. He may not have had the parts but it doesn't explain how he still manages to get Dranzer S either.
He probably didn't need blueprints. Kai is mysterious, you know.
But if he knew it without blueprints, he could have used the model right away, since he saw that same model tear through the Beyblades without a bit beast, I know Black Dranzers more powerful but Dranzer F is the closest to having it, not Dranzer S, and Kai could clearly modify his beyblade whenever so there's no reason not to use it. The only reason is he probably wanted to practice with a less powerful model and prevent the trauma of Black Dranzer incontrolability.
All this timing and modelling is just pure coinkidink, if Kai had Dranzer S instead of Dranzer F I can assure that Black Dranzer would have been Dranzer S.
Plot holes in a kids show? IMPOSSIBLE. This is crazy talk, bro.
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(Aug. 10, 2014 6:30 AM)Zancrow Wrote: Plot holes in a kids show? IMPOSSIBLE. This is crazy talk, bro.
It's a very slim chance it's not plot holes but it could be plot convenience, OK there's not really any convenience of Black Dranzer being Dranzer F unless they were too lazy to create a new model.
Eh I'm not complaining too much but that has been bothering me, Black Dranzer is still cool and whatnot but oh man...
Lazy Toy makers, make some ultra powerful beyblade and recolor it as a show adaptation that was cool.
It's money,
It's money,