Hello everyone, first I want to shout our Mr. Memes for a recent thread he made. It drove me to finally put up thoughts I've had for a long time but was reluctant to share. So here it goes.
Tournaments & Ranking System
The discussion around rank has been heavy lately. Mainly for negative reasons. Players see the flaws in the systems point scale. Players stop attending tournaments for fear of losing points. Rank doesn't accurately gauge a players skill. Communities center themselves solely around ranked events, which is fine, but it also leads to negative impacts of unnecessary stress and arguments from players worried about losing points. The joy of the game and community health kind of gets lost in that. Another big factor, one that we really don't discuss is kind of "what is the point of rank"? We sometimes debate that it's just a point scale and rating and doesn't mean much. But ultimately it does and we really don't know why. You don't receive a reward or anything for being 1. It is just a sense of accomplishment for self. That is great but the negativity in the entire system can sometimes outweigh the climb within the system. This can happen with any form of competition but it is heavy in ranked. Also we have issues with resets for seasonals, balance with various format ranks, etc.
Now this proposal isn't to bash rank but just an idea to restructure the overall Organization but I know the rank system is primarily what makes the WBO separate from other organizations. A method to be done with rank and still have a competitive edge against competitors is a LEGIT WBO MAIN EVENT! Most competitive games do not have a ranking. They are broken into seasons. Top teams or players come together at the season end to see who is the best and that is that. The WBO does not have that and from what I have seen from the past we may have had something similar with Beyblade East, North or West but not officially. I want to propose that officially for several reasons.
I have tried to do something like this myself with The Circuit. I have also worked with Conce7 to get things going with Beyblade World Cup but the ultimate factor is that we are store owners and not the entity of the WBO. The community needs something by the community and for the community. It needs the organization that we all love to bring us together in a competitive and community way.
The WBO is not a profitable organization. It is a community of people that love this game. The WBO can do so much more and be so much more than what it currently is. Takara Tomy and Hasbro are big corporations for the game we love. Their focus is selling product and although TT has more of a competitive outreach they are not nearly as capable of catering to the Beyblade community as this organization can. That is mainly because the motives of this organization is by the fans and for the fans and no ulterior motives. The WBO came to be because of these companies lack of involvement with the competitive community for adults and within the western hemisphere. We have to remember that. It seems like sometimes the WBO acts like "The Kragle" from the lego movie with resilience to change or letting the community be more than what it currently is.
Having a structured main event held annually, with regional qualifiers could 100% work. The Circuit and BWC have proved it can work and the community can get behind this. The event could be a 2 day structured event. A day to host a big tournament to crown the seasonal champ with the current or latest released system and official WBO ruleset (unlimited or standard if it's here). And a secondary day to commune together, older format tournaments, experimental formats, WBO promotion and community outreach. Regions could host an official regional for their area with the winner receiving a free ticket to the main event. This can grow beyond our current competitive community within NA. As I stated above, TT and Hasbro do not cater to adults, other organizations do not have as big of a platform as WBO currently. Seizing the opportunity to grab various communities around the world can be done with an exclusive fan ran organization like this one. Having that main event can grow to be the true test of crowning the best player, young or old. Various WBO organizers can also group together to host regionals and also make sure the main event runs smooth, from judging, to conduct, and overall organization. I'll be 100% honest, I hope this is something that can happen. I've even set up Challenger to be hosted in the off season with hopes that WBO will have a national/international event held within the summer. Challenger is set to be a regional event qualifier more than a main event for beyblade.
With this, if anything is split with regards to ranked or unranked, if we do get rid of rank we can just have Unlimited/Standard WBO format/ruleset and everything else as everything else.
Community & Resources
This carries on from above statements but I need to address this because when I reached out about a main event in the past there were concerns of funding, resources, etc.
The benefit of the community or any organization is the diversity of members. We have store owners within this community, very popular YouTubers, graphic designers, website designers, CEO's of their own successful companies and the list goes on. I say this all to iterate the fact that WBO can be much more than it is if we utilize our community resources. This isn't me volunteering members to work but there are literally people willing to help that aren't offered the opportunity. The WBO is growing from organizers hosting events and word of mouth but on the grand scale of things, with the several active years of this community and the immense love of beyblade worldwide I'm not sure why we don't have a structured main event nor why we don't keep up with the technological times. For instance, Zankye is one of the biggest BeyTuber's worldwide. I could strongly be mistaken and much love to you th!nk but I feel Zankye could market this organization in a major way. Not just him we have several other BeyTubers, twitch streamers and social media icons in the community as well. Beytuber brawl as I've heard was highly successful but a bit chaotic. We have the organizers and know how to prepare better for something like that if we are allowed the chance.
In terms of funding, I don't see that as an issue either. When it comes to money there is always the legal fears of profit with a not for profit organization however you can accept donations or funds to the organization for the organization if I am not mistaken. With The Circuit, I reached out to BeysAndBricks, ThePortal0 and EverWish to help with prizing and MallofBeys and Beyblade Premier also offered to help and donated prizing. How much more will these stores be willing to assist a not for profit organization if they were willing to help another store. There are even affiliate programs that the WBO could utilize to promote a code to buyers, buyers use the code for a discount. Buyers receive a discount and WBO can earn a small percentage of sales. That money can then be put back into the community, for events, giveaways, promotions, "new website", etc.
It was mentioned to me before that with getting help you have to worry about the other individuals motives. If the motive for a store to assist the organization is so they can sell more beys, or a YouTuber to help them get more views then I'd ask what is wrong with that? It's a modified barter system. It doesn't seem wise to not have a stores, social media icons or large scale beytuber's promote this organization because they may have their own motives to gain more followers and views because OVERALL, it gains members to this community! It grows our community. And maybe an unpopular opinion but the WBO may have more to gain from these various resources than vice versa.
Staff
I was reluctant to write this section but I want to get everything out. I don't know all of the inner workings within staff and the meetings. Sometimes it seems like a private "cool kids only" club. Not everyone, I have lot of respect for those I converse with.
What I propose is kind of getting more structured and organized for things to move smoothly. I know you have an executive staff structure now and that is solid. But things also move slow or not at all. I am proposing growth and foresight. It's apparent some staff members aren't involved with the community, many processes take ages to happen (I have a friend who has been waiting for close to 2 months to get approved as a organizer, and he is the only reliable organizer that community will have). Life happens and I get that but we have so many people that love this game and organization. So many members that want to help and move forward. So many members with genuine passion. So if the staff members who aren't as involved, whether old friend or not it may be time to trim the fat. Restructure so processes can take place without top dogs being immensely involved. Entrust roles and responsibilities to eager and trustworthy individuals. I can't shout Shindog out enough but everyone loves that guy. Im not asking for him to do more because he does a lot already but he is the best example of a legit staff member who speaks with us, helps us, host tournaments, builds his local community, the list goes on and on. I mean for God's sake, the guy spent thousands of dollars to invest in a stadium for the community and he didn't get a dime from it. That is all love and what we should have as a blueprint for staff. Someone assisting and growing the organization and not hanging onto the title.
There are many individuals who can help that share this passion. Please don't let it die out. Players may come and go because of the way things have been with the organization. Let's make the progressive effort for a positive change, and use our resources to assist in that.
MyBB is quite old also. We may need to move on and forward. Keep the forum for sure and discord for communication buy maybe integrate something more up to date for the foreseeable future within our competitive scene. Here are a few sites I've seen worth a read and some even offer backend development for tournaments and ranking structure:
https://www.toornament.com/en_US/
https://themeforest.net/search/gaming%20tournament
https://www.themeboy.com/blog/create-tou...ts-league/
https://www.techinasia.com/gamerled-game...experience
[url=https://digiday.com/marketing/confessions-of-a-super-smash-bros-tournament-organizer-on-nintendos-lack-of-support-for-competitive-gaming/][/url]*Side Note* Challonge also has community settings for structured tournaments and ranking features, however it does not have reset capabilities.
Ive put up a lot of proposals and shared a ton of thoughts but I must admit that I am a bit tired. I am definitely at the point now to where I just want to play and that is good and bad. I want to just play because I love the game but it is also a feeling of me no longer wanting to help or assist with the growth of the organization because it feels like efforts fall on deaf ears. I know they don't. I know staff and others will read this whether they respond to me or not, I know it will be discussed. I'm just a dad I guess. I want to help but I can't force anyone to listen or act so in the end I will just sit back play.
Much love to this organization and to all those that help make it great.
Tournaments & Ranking System
The discussion around rank has been heavy lately. Mainly for negative reasons. Players see the flaws in the systems point scale. Players stop attending tournaments for fear of losing points. Rank doesn't accurately gauge a players skill. Communities center themselves solely around ranked events, which is fine, but it also leads to negative impacts of unnecessary stress and arguments from players worried about losing points. The joy of the game and community health kind of gets lost in that. Another big factor, one that we really don't discuss is kind of "what is the point of rank"? We sometimes debate that it's just a point scale and rating and doesn't mean much. But ultimately it does and we really don't know why. You don't receive a reward or anything for being 1. It is just a sense of accomplishment for self. That is great but the negativity in the entire system can sometimes outweigh the climb within the system. This can happen with any form of competition but it is heavy in ranked. Also we have issues with resets for seasonals, balance with various format ranks, etc.
Now this proposal isn't to bash rank but just an idea to restructure the overall Organization but I know the rank system is primarily what makes the WBO separate from other organizations. A method to be done with rank and still have a competitive edge against competitors is a LEGIT WBO MAIN EVENT! Most competitive games do not have a ranking. They are broken into seasons. Top teams or players come together at the season end to see who is the best and that is that. The WBO does not have that and from what I have seen from the past we may have had something similar with Beyblade East, North or West but not officially. I want to propose that officially for several reasons.
I have tried to do something like this myself with The Circuit. I have also worked with Conce7 to get things going with Beyblade World Cup but the ultimate factor is that we are store owners and not the entity of the WBO. The community needs something by the community and for the community. It needs the organization that we all love to bring us together in a competitive and community way.
The WBO is not a profitable organization. It is a community of people that love this game. The WBO can do so much more and be so much more than what it currently is. Takara Tomy and Hasbro are big corporations for the game we love. Their focus is selling product and although TT has more of a competitive outreach they are not nearly as capable of catering to the Beyblade community as this organization can. That is mainly because the motives of this organization is by the fans and for the fans and no ulterior motives. The WBO came to be because of these companies lack of involvement with the competitive community for adults and within the western hemisphere. We have to remember that. It seems like sometimes the WBO acts like "The Kragle" from the lego movie with resilience to change or letting the community be more than what it currently is.
Having a structured main event held annually, with regional qualifiers could 100% work. The Circuit and BWC have proved it can work and the community can get behind this. The event could be a 2 day structured event. A day to host a big tournament to crown the seasonal champ with the current or latest released system and official WBO ruleset (unlimited or standard if it's here). And a secondary day to commune together, older format tournaments, experimental formats, WBO promotion and community outreach. Regions could host an official regional for their area with the winner receiving a free ticket to the main event. This can grow beyond our current competitive community within NA. As I stated above, TT and Hasbro do not cater to adults, other organizations do not have as big of a platform as WBO currently. Seizing the opportunity to grab various communities around the world can be done with an exclusive fan ran organization like this one. Having that main event can grow to be the true test of crowning the best player, young or old. Various WBO organizers can also group together to host regionals and also make sure the main event runs smooth, from judging, to conduct, and overall organization. I'll be 100% honest, I hope this is something that can happen. I've even set up Challenger to be hosted in the off season with hopes that WBO will have a national/international event held within the summer. Challenger is set to be a regional event qualifier more than a main event for beyblade.
With this, if anything is split with regards to ranked or unranked, if we do get rid of rank we can just have Unlimited/Standard WBO format/ruleset and everything else as everything else.
Community & Resources
This carries on from above statements but I need to address this because when I reached out about a main event in the past there were concerns of funding, resources, etc.
The benefit of the community or any organization is the diversity of members. We have store owners within this community, very popular YouTubers, graphic designers, website designers, CEO's of their own successful companies and the list goes on. I say this all to iterate the fact that WBO can be much more than it is if we utilize our community resources. This isn't me volunteering members to work but there are literally people willing to help that aren't offered the opportunity. The WBO is growing from organizers hosting events and word of mouth but on the grand scale of things, with the several active years of this community and the immense love of beyblade worldwide I'm not sure why we don't have a structured main event nor why we don't keep up with the technological times. For instance, Zankye is one of the biggest BeyTuber's worldwide. I could strongly be mistaken and much love to you th!nk but I feel Zankye could market this organization in a major way. Not just him we have several other BeyTubers, twitch streamers and social media icons in the community as well. Beytuber brawl as I've heard was highly successful but a bit chaotic. We have the organizers and know how to prepare better for something like that if we are allowed the chance.
In terms of funding, I don't see that as an issue either. When it comes to money there is always the legal fears of profit with a not for profit organization however you can accept donations or funds to the organization for the organization if I am not mistaken. With The Circuit, I reached out to BeysAndBricks, ThePortal0 and EverWish to help with prizing and MallofBeys and Beyblade Premier also offered to help and donated prizing. How much more will these stores be willing to assist a not for profit organization if they were willing to help another store. There are even affiliate programs that the WBO could utilize to promote a code to buyers, buyers use the code for a discount. Buyers receive a discount and WBO can earn a small percentage of sales. That money can then be put back into the community, for events, giveaways, promotions, "new website", etc.
It was mentioned to me before that with getting help you have to worry about the other individuals motives. If the motive for a store to assist the organization is so they can sell more beys, or a YouTuber to help them get more views then I'd ask what is wrong with that? It's a modified barter system. It doesn't seem wise to not have a stores, social media icons or large scale beytuber's promote this organization because they may have their own motives to gain more followers and views because OVERALL, it gains members to this community! It grows our community. And maybe an unpopular opinion but the WBO may have more to gain from these various resources than vice versa.
Staff
I was reluctant to write this section but I want to get everything out. I don't know all of the inner workings within staff and the meetings. Sometimes it seems like a private "cool kids only" club. Not everyone, I have lot of respect for those I converse with.
What I propose is kind of getting more structured and organized for things to move smoothly. I know you have an executive staff structure now and that is solid. But things also move slow or not at all. I am proposing growth and foresight. It's apparent some staff members aren't involved with the community, many processes take ages to happen (I have a friend who has been waiting for close to 2 months to get approved as a organizer, and he is the only reliable organizer that community will have). Life happens and I get that but we have so many people that love this game and organization. So many members that want to help and move forward. So many members with genuine passion. So if the staff members who aren't as involved, whether old friend or not it may be time to trim the fat. Restructure so processes can take place without top dogs being immensely involved. Entrust roles and responsibilities to eager and trustworthy individuals. I can't shout Shindog out enough but everyone loves that guy. Im not asking for him to do more because he does a lot already but he is the best example of a legit staff member who speaks with us, helps us, host tournaments, builds his local community, the list goes on and on. I mean for God's sake, the guy spent thousands of dollars to invest in a stadium for the community and he didn't get a dime from it. That is all love and what we should have as a blueprint for staff. Someone assisting and growing the organization and not hanging onto the title.
There are many individuals who can help that share this passion. Please don't let it die out. Players may come and go because of the way things have been with the organization. Let's make the progressive effort for a positive change, and use our resources to assist in that.
MyBB is quite old also. We may need to move on and forward. Keep the forum for sure and discord for communication buy maybe integrate something more up to date for the foreseeable future within our competitive scene. Here are a few sites I've seen worth a read and some even offer backend development for tournaments and ranking structure:
https://www.toornament.com/en_US/
https://themeforest.net/search/gaming%20tournament
https://www.themeboy.com/blog/create-tou...ts-league/
https://www.techinasia.com/gamerled-game...experience
[url=https://digiday.com/marketing/confessions-of-a-super-smash-bros-tournament-organizer-on-nintendos-lack-of-support-for-competitive-gaming/][/url]*Side Note* Challonge also has community settings for structured tournaments and ranking features, however it does not have reset capabilities.
Ive put up a lot of proposals and shared a ton of thoughts but I must admit that I am a bit tired. I am definitely at the point now to where I just want to play and that is good and bad. I want to just play because I love the game but it is also a feeling of me no longer wanting to help or assist with the growth of the organization because it feels like efforts fall on deaf ears. I know they don't. I know staff and others will read this whether they respond to me or not, I know it will be discussed. I'm just a dad I guess. I want to help but I can't force anyone to listen or act so in the end I will just sit back play.
Much love to this organization and to all those that help make it great.
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