Nah, that's okay! Thanks for the second one though, he explains it quite nice.

I was wondering, does anyone else notice how Stamina ode has so much recoil(?)

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I noticed that as well. I'm also surprised at the height, it seems larger than a 145, no?

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It's tall as a 230...

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It's tall as a 230...

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Really?! I never noticed that... Dumb of me not to see that.
Well, if it has such good height, then this bey will probably be a good part for Defense too? No? Correct me if I am wrong. But yes, BD145 attack combos will beat it. Still, Phantom Orion is great! Can't wait to see some tests on it!

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Yeah, I saw that video with it against a 230 and I was like "This doesn't look right..." didn't know that, thanks for showing me BBS.

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Really?! I never noticed that... Dumb of me not to see that.
Well, if it has such good height, then this bey will probably be a good part for Defense too? No? Correct me if I am wrong. But yes, BD145 attack combos will beat it. Still, Phantom Orion is great! Can't wait to see some tests on it!

If you noticed,230 doesn't have a tip when its in comparision with B:D in the picture. So 230 combos will still be taller than a B:D combo.So i'm guessing it could be easily taken down with combos which higher than 120....Plus due to the low friction offered by B:D,Attack types might be able to take it down with ease.I'm not too sure though.

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I'd say give it a height closer to 190 or so.

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Well I have seen various videos involving Phantom Orion. And all got pretty mutch 5min solo spin time. can someone explane what is going on. Because it like 2 min of the expected time. If it was like 30 seconds or so i could understand but 2 min of is just a bit more than normal don't you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J8koYsiu...re=related

Most of them are weak launches.A good launch should make it spin for 7+ mins.

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What I know is that TAKARA-TOMY cannot have tricked their video and launch, so there has to be something wrong with people who are testing it. Light Launcher 2 is really not as strong as the Beylauncher, for instance.

Um, another similar video I found.
Sorry if this has been posted...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0r8tbw60...re=related

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Right, while it might be a good marketing ploy, it would be bad form to falsely advertise it's spin time. My bet's with Kai-V, because from what I've seen, people grip the handle of the Beylauncher strongly rather than lightly, which could decrease launch power from what I've heard.

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well I don't know yet what it is. But I found what should have been a even greater stamina combo or the dream stamina.
Scythe Bull B
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XWtPcXFy...re=related
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Scythe and Phantom are two different wheels and the videos which TAKARA-TOMY have were done with Phantom Orion B:D .
Maybe that's what is making the difference?What we need right now are proper Solo-Spin time tests for Phantom Orion B:D .

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Yo, stop posting videos from the same person which we have established had something wrong with their launch, it will just teach us nothing.

This bey does have a lot of stamina, but what about the defense and recoil?

What we need right now are proper Solo-Spin time tests for Phantom Orion B .

um no we really don't cause they don't prove much. Decent battles are like 20 times more useful.

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What we need right now are proper Solo-Spin time tests for Phantom Orion B .

um no we really don't cause they don't prove much. Decent battles are like 20 times more useful.

Actually, they prove exactly what they prove - the maximum spin time possible for the part, which does play a decent factor in deciding its uses - unless the part has massive recoil or something, which I doubt will be the case, given its similar slope to D/WD, and the high likelihood that they didn't spray the plastic with teflon.

Battles are "more useful", but turning down solid spin time information because it "don't prove much" is ignorant, plain and simple.

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All I know is a while ago when I made a solo spin time thread I got bombarded by posts saying that they weren't useful. We already have solo spin times so why would we need more? It's not even my opinion it's the general opinion of anyone on the forum who knows anything worth a damn. But you're an advanced member so I will agree just because your lettering is in Italics which must mean you're very knowledgable despite the fact that i've been here much longer than you.

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Hazel is saying we need solo spin time from some of the WBO. Getting this in three weeks.

All I know is a while ago when I made a solo spin time thread I got bombarded by posts saying that they weren't useful. We already have solo spin times so why would we need more? It's not even my opinion it's the general opinion of anyone on the forum who knows anything worth a damn. But you're an advanced member so I will agree just because your lettering is in Italics which must mean you're very knowledgable despite the fact that i've been here much longer than you.

I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with more properly-provided information, regardless of the precise nature of it.

There's also no reason we cannot have both spin times and versus results, but spin times are more likely to be what we get right now.

And, to kill this bird dead in the sky right now: It is not as though there was a political scandal involved in me gaining Advanced. If you have an issue with my promotion, keep quiet or discuss it with the people responsible. My italicized name changes nothing about who I am as a poster. I am just as capable of being wrong as I was before, and just as prone to posting my opinions as I see fit.

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Yes we do, but some unaware people do not realize that dissing B:D's solo's are different.

There is a controversial difference amongst the two. I will be getting mine Tuesday..

NOTE: This message was to akylus21

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I ment we need someone with a beylauncher and strong launching power to test the spin time. I might be able to test this but I have to use the stadiun I OWN because I don't have the Attack Stadium (yeah someone else needs to test this).

No duh.... You pointed that out twice.

Anyway, I hope orion comes into great use. Lets hope the upcoming testings we see will give us promising results.

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I really hope that does happen.