Potential Competitive Metal Fight Beyblade Combos

Thank you Shadow. Your results are what the combo's results should look like. Thats what I get.
(Sep. 05, 2010  6:17 AM)Ozzy Wrote: Thank you Shadow. Your results are what the combo's results should look like. Thats what I get.

Which is why I think it should remain a spin stealer.
Will Thermal Pisces be any good on a 125 track? It seems to be a good median to 145 and 90, but the lowest track I have is 100. Can someone test MF Thermal Pisces 125WD against 85-90 based attackers?
MF will reduce stamina type spin times.
I'm trying to find a good 125 based bey to counter 90 and 85. (Though I've faced 85 only twice...) The point of the MF is to make pisces heavier and harder to knock around with Quetz. I'm not trying to find a sure win tactic, I just want to stand a chance.
Why suggest Thermal, then? It was tested as a defensive blade a while ago and the results weren't great.

Wouldn't you want something that's already proven as a defensive blade? And doesn't lowering the track make for increased wheel-to-wheel contact with quetz...which is what you try to avoid when battling against a low attacker?
So , has anyone tried Ray_CH120 RF / CS , combo's yet ?
shadowpegasis test results added. I would appreciate more testing Smile
(Sep. 05, 2010  8:24 PM)Nojo294 Wrote: shadowpegasis test results added. I would appreciate more testing Smile

(Sep. 05, 2010  4:53 AM)ShadowPegasis Wrote: I think LLDrago 100WD should remain a spin stealer

It's clearly written/implied that I don't think it should be under destabilizers.
(Sep. 06, 2010  3:38 AM)ShadowPegasis Wrote:
(Sep. 05, 2010  8:24 PM)Nojo294 Wrote: shadowpegasis test results added. I would appreciate more testing Smile

(Sep. 05, 2010  4:53 AM)ShadowPegasis Wrote: I think LLDrago 100WD should remain a spin stealer

It's clearly written/implied that I don't think it should be under destabilizers.

done.
(Sep. 06, 2010  3:40 AM)Nojo294 Wrote:
(Sep. 06, 2010  3:38 AM)ShadowPegasis Wrote:
(Sep. 05, 2010  8:24 PM)Nojo294 Wrote: shadowpegasis test results added. I would appreciate more testing Smile

(Sep. 05, 2010  4:53 AM)ShadowPegasis Wrote: I think LLDrago 100WD should remain a spin stealer

It's clearly written/implied that I don't think it should be under destabilizers.

done.

No credit? XD. But seriously, please give me credit for testing Tired
(Sep. 06, 2010  3:45 AM)ShadowPegasis Wrote:
(Sep. 06, 2010  3:40 AM)Nojo294 Wrote:
(Sep. 06, 2010  3:38 AM)ShadowPegasis Wrote:
(Sep. 05, 2010  8:24 PM)Nojo294 Wrote: shadowpegasis test results added. I would appreciate more testing Smile

(Sep. 05, 2010  4:53 AM)ShadowPegasis Wrote: I think LLDrago 100WD should remain a spin stealer

It's clearly written/implied that I don't think it should be under destabilizers.

done.

No credit? XD. But seriously, please give me credit for testing Tired
Oh true I knew I forgot something.
My L Drago arrived today so I did some test involving Kei's destabilizer combo.

DEFENCE:
MF L Drago 100WF VS MF Earth (Second Mold) Bull GB145WB
19 - 1: L Drago’s win rate 95%

STAMINA:
MF L Drago 100WF VS MF Earth (Second Mold) Bull DF145SD
4 - 16: L Drago’s win rate 20%

MF L Drago 100WF VS MF Earth (Second Mold) Bull DF145WD
5 - 15: L Drago’s win rate 25%
Wow. It sure is a specialist.
(Sep. 07, 2010  10:51 AM)Fyuuor Wrote: My L Drago arrived today so I did some test involving Kei's destabilizer combo.

DEFENCE:
MF L Drago 100WF VS MF Earth (Second Mold) Bull GB145WB
19 - 1: L Drago’s win rate 95%

STAMINA:
MF L Drago 100WF VS MF Earth (Second Mold) Bull DF145SD
4 - 16: L Drago’s win rate 20%

MF L Drago 100WF VS MF Earth (Second Mold) Bull DF145WD
5 - 15: L Drago’s win rate 25%
I'm not surprised with your results against Defense, but I'm wondering, did you bank when VS Stamina combos? MF LDrago 100WF can KO them easily. (In my tests.)
(Sep. 07, 2010  12:54 PM)RエスコルピオT125JB Wrote: I'm not surprised with your results against Defense, but I'm wondering, did you bank when VS Stamina combos? MF LDrago 100WF can KO them easily. (In my tests.)

It can KO them with some consistency, but it's win percentage isn't terribly high against any Stamina combos, and I seem to remember it having trouble with Earth more than any other Wheel anyways.
(Sep. 07, 2010  12:54 PM)RエスコルピオT125JB Wrote: I'm not surprised with your results against Defense, but I'm wondering, did you bank when VS Stamina combos? MF LDrago 100WF can KO them easily. (In my tests.)
I was using a banking shot for L Drago against both defence and stamina types while using a straight shot for the opposing combinations. Against defence L Drago had the ability to KO an opponent though it wasn't necessary for it to do so in order to win the battle as it had the ability to outspin the opponent.

In regards to L Drago facing a stamina combo KO'ing the opponent became a necessity. In all honesty I actually find it easier to control RF then I do WF, with WF it doesn't seem to retain a flower pattern as easily as what RF does, and for that reason landing a succession of clean hits which are strong enough to knock out a stamina type rather difficult; if L Drago didn't accomplish this within the strict time frame in the beginning of the battle then the stamina combination would always win by a small margin.
Thanks for doing the tests fyuuor. It seems that l drago 100wf is only strong against defense types, while losing to a type that it should have an advantage against. According to these tests, it should not remain on the potential top tier list IMO. What about you guys?
I personally agree. I fooled around with this for an hour this morning and simply couldn't get good win rates against any combos. Tried many different shooting techniques, different power, angles, the whole works. Nothing.

Maybe it's just not for me, but I really didn't get wins with it.
(Sep. 07, 2010  11:05 PM)Corey Wrote: I personally agree. I fooled around with this for an hour this morning and simply couldn't get good win rates against any combos. Tried many different shooting techniques, different power, angles, the whole works. Nothing.

Maybe it's just not for me, but I really didn't get wins with it.

Yah that's the thng I did some informal testing but it wasn't too impressive. I will take this combo out of the list.
I hv:
Dark Bull h145sd
Rock Aries ed145b
Dark Gasher ch120sf
Flame Sagittario c145s
cn u guys help me build combos?
Wrong thread. You already posted in the Make Me a Combo! thread.
(Sep. 07, 2010  11:12 PM)Nojo294 Wrote:
(Sep. 07, 2010  11:05 PM)Corey Wrote: I personally agree. I fooled around with this for an hour this morning and simply couldn't get good win rates against any combos. Tried many different shooting techniques, different power, angles, the whole works. Nothing.

Maybe it's just not for me, but I really didn't get wins with it.

Yah that's the thng I did some informal testing but it wasn't too impressive. I will take this combo out of the list.

I suppose MF L Drago 100WF could be replaced with MF L L Drago 100WD, though it must be said that both LL Drago and Kei's L Drago combo suffer the same weakness of opponents with an Earth Wheel combined with a SD or WD tip. IDK I'm still partial to leaving the destailizer combo in the list as it still can acheive an incredible win rate against defence types, ecspically now with the introduction of RS resulting in more defence orientated combos.
You guys should also keep in mind that MF L Drago 100WF can do well against Attack types as well. Simply straight shooting with WF allows it to move insanely fast around the Tornado Ridge, often resulting in it KOing the RF-based opponent. And if this doesn't happen, it will surely outspin the RF custom.
Hmm then I will leave it on because it at least has an amazing win rate against defense types so I will put that in brackets.