[Plastics] :: Q&A Thread
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(Oct. 02, 2014 8:15 PM)Kai-V Wrote: This arguement needs to stop. There are facts : a lot of what you claim, Neo, is critiqued by basically every other Blader with plastic knowledge, and that has been the case almost ever since you started posting. So yes, I would ask you to back up your claims from now on, otherwise we would prefer you to not reply to questions since it can be tiresome to correct things all the time.
Sorry to everyone; bad day today and my mind was just really clouded. Didn't think before I posted..
(Oct. 02, 2014 9:46 PM)JinbeeTheShark Wrote:(Oct. 02, 2014 9:41 PM)Captain Wrote: Griffolyon has a BRUTAL AR.
Notorious for damaging its opponents.
Dranzer F also suffered the same fate...
Then again I did use it on Dragoon GA's blade base, but even then I found Griffolyon can damage without it.
Griffolyon has those very sharp defined edges & it breaks a lot of things quite..easily.
It's worse then Cybernetic in terms of breaking other blades.
Like when looking at G-Upper, the contact points are smooth.
So would Griff be considered spike or Smash?
Edit: shut the hell up neo
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(Oct. 02, 2014 9:55 PM)Neo Wrote:(Oct. 02, 2014 8:15 PM)Kai-V Wrote: This arguement needs to stop. There are facts : a lot of what you claim, Neo, is critiqued by basically every other Blader with plastic knowledge, and that has been the case almost ever since you started posting. So yes, I would ask you to back up your claims from now on, otherwise we would prefer you to not reply to questions since it can be tiresome to correct things all the time.
Sorry to everyone; bad day today and my mind was just really clouded. Didn't think before I posted..
(Oct. 02, 2014 9:46 PM)JinbeeTheShark Wrote:(Oct. 02, 2014 9:41 PM)Captain Wrote: Griffolyon has a BRUTAL AR.
Notorious for damaging its opponents.
Dranzer F also suffered the same fate...
Then again I did use it on Dragoon GA's blade base, but even then I found Griffolyon can damage without it.
Griffolyon has those very sharp defined edges & it breaks a lot of things quite..easily.
It's worse then Cybernetic in terms of breaking other blades.
Like when looking at G-Upper, the contact points are smooth.
So would Griff be considered spike or Smash?
Alright Neo.
According to beywiki it´s smash.
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(Oct. 02, 2014 10:20 PM)~Stoney~ Wrote:Let's not forget that it's beats Cybernetic Dragon for smash eh(Oct. 02, 2014 9:55 PM)Neo Wrote:(Oct. 02, 2014 8:15 PM)Kai-V Wrote: This arguement needs to stop. There are facts : a lot of what you claim, Neo, is critiqued by basically every other Blader with plastic knowledge, and that has been the case almost ever since you started posting. So yes, I would ask you to back up your claims from now on, otherwise we would prefer you to not reply to questions since it can be tiresome to correct things all the time.
Sorry to everyone; bad day today and my mind was just really clouded. Didn't think before I posted..
(Oct. 02, 2014 9:46 PM)JinbeeTheShark Wrote: Dranzer F also suffered the same fate...
Then again I did use it on Dragoon GA's blade base, but even then I found Griffolyon can damage without it.
Griffolyon has those very sharp defined edges & it breaks a lot of things quite..easily.
It's worse then Cybernetic in terms of breaking other blades.
Like when looking at G-Upper, the contact points are smooth.
So would Griff be considered spike or Smash?
Alright Neo.
According to beywiki it´s smash.
(Oct. 02, 2014 10:20 PM)~Stoney~ Wrote:(Oct. 02, 2014 9:55 PM)Neo Wrote:(Oct. 02, 2014 8:15 PM)Kai-V Wrote: This arguement needs to stop. There are facts : a lot of what you claim, Neo, is critiqued by basically every other Blader with plastic knowledge, and that has been the case almost ever since you started posting. So yes, I would ask you to back up your claims from now on, otherwise we would prefer you to not reply to questions since it can be tiresome to correct things all the time.
Sorry to everyone; bad day today and my mind was just really clouded. Didn't think before I posted..
(Oct. 02, 2014 9:46 PM)JinbeeTheShark Wrote: Dranzer F also suffered the same fate...
Then again I did use it on Dragoon GA's blade base, but even then I found Griffolyon can damage without it.
Griffolyon has those very sharp defined edges & it breaks a lot of things quite..easily.
It's worse then Cybernetic in terms of breaking other blades.
Like when looking at G-Upper, the contact points are smooth.
So would Griff be considered spike or Smash?
Alright Neo.
According to beywiki it´s smash.
But that's the thing;
It's thick and has spike attack, but it has less recoil comparatively.
So I have no clue where to draw the line; or maybe it's in it's own type of attack.
Spike is basically a subtype of smash.
Any offensive AR which has no Upper ability but makes solid contact with an opponent's bey is likely to be smash.
The finer the contact points, the more "spike attack" it has, exerting more pressure per contact spike.
Take Voltaic Ape's Mountain Hammer: Definitely a smash attacker
Whereas Eight Spiker: Definitely a spike attack orientated AR
Just to clarify, I'd say it's best to consider spikiness part of a spectrum, rather than a clear category.
Any offensive AR which has no Upper ability but makes solid contact with an opponent's bey is likely to be smash.
The finer the contact points, the more "spike attack" it has, exerting more pressure per contact spike.
Take Voltaic Ape's Mountain Hammer: Definitely a smash attacker
Whereas Eight Spiker: Definitely a spike attack orientated AR
Just to clarify, I'd say it's best to consider spikiness part of a spectrum, rather than a clear category.
(Oct. 03, 2014 1:10 AM)Captain Wrote: Spike is basically a subtype of smash.
Any offensive AR which has no Upper ability but makes solid contact with an opponent's bey is likely to be smash.
The finer the contact points, the more "spike attack" it has, exerting more pressure per contact spike.
Take Voltaic Ape's Mountain Hammer: Definitely a smash attacker
Whereas Eight Spiker: Definitely a spike attack orientated AR
Just to clarify, I'd say it's best to consider spikiness part of a spectrum, rather than a clear category.
So, basically the more defined and jaggedy it is the Moreso it's spike?
Anyone know if a Light Blue Griffolyon is rare?
Essentially yeah, that's the theory. Sharper contact point = Incr spike attack
S'all good, and sorry for losing my cool on several occasions.
(Oct. 03, 2014 1:14 AM)Neo Wrote: Anyone know if a Light Blue Griffolyon is rare?i'll do my best to answer this..
I don't know if you're looking for official answer or not, but i'll tell you from my exp this is a rare beyblade.
Being part of a small plastics set for the Majestic Bladers way back when they came out with Griffolyon and Salamalyon, and some twin blades: Hayate and Zinri.
Hasbro later released a Griffolyon2 that was PURPLE instead of Light Blue - which one might consider even rarer.
i used to own both Griffolyon and Salamalyon, mine came with the figure-builds as well, but i never knew exactly why those were necessary to have, so they didn't stick around lol but i had those beyblades for a long time.
like i said.. i don't know if you're wanting an official answer, or an opinion, but being that the beyblade you're talking about is part of a collection/set that is now extremely hard to come by, YES i would say its very rare. Especially to an orginial beyblader.
you're pretty lucky if you're still holding one these in my opinion.
hope this helps..
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(Oct. 03, 2014 3:30 AM)Dark_Mousy Wrote:(Oct. 03, 2014 1:14 AM)Neo Wrote: Anyone know if a Light Blue Griffolyon is rare?
I don't think so. We got a few of them in a lot we ordered earlier this week. Ritsuka has abouit 3-4 of them in her car.
wow! you totally just blew my answer away! that's a lot of copies of the same beyblade.
i guess i referring to the collective value or something along the lines..
idk why but i'm still amazed that you have that many griffolyon. [Image: thinking-021.gif]
(Oct. 03, 2014 3:41 AM)BBXtremist Wrote:(Oct. 03, 2014 3:30 AM)Dark_Mousy Wrote:(Oct. 03, 2014 1:14 AM)Neo Wrote: Anyone know if a Light Blue Griffolyon is rare?
I don't think so. We got a few of them in a lot we ordered earlier this week. Ritsuka has abouit 3-4 of them in her car.
wow! you totally just blew my answer away! that's a lot of copies of the same beyblade.
i guess i referring to the collective value or something along the lines..
If you saw some of the stuff just laying next to me you would poop a brick. Within arms reach I have wide survivors galore and zombie stuff galore.
(Oct. 03, 2014 4:37 AM)Dark_Mousy Wrote:I have quite a few boxes in reach as well.(Oct. 03, 2014 3:41 AM)BBXtremist Wrote:(Oct. 03, 2014 3:30 AM)Dark_Mousy Wrote: I don't think so. We got a few of them in a lot we ordered earlier this week. Ritsuka has abouit 3-4 of them in her car.
wow! you totally just blew my answer away! that's a lot of copies of the same beyblade.
i guess i referring to the collective value or something along the lines..
If you saw some of the stuff just laying next to me you would poop a brick. Within arms reach I have wide survivors galore and zombie stuff galore.
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(Oct. 03, 2014 3:41 AM)BBXtremist Wrote:(Oct. 03, 2014 3:30 AM)Dark_Mousy Wrote:(Oct. 03, 2014 1:14 AM)Neo Wrote: Anyone know if a Light Blue Griffolyon is rare?
I don't think so. We got a few of them in a lot we ordered earlier this week. Ritsuka has abouit 3-4 of them in her car.
wow! you totally just blew my answer away! that's a lot of copies of the same beyblade.
i guess i referring to the collective value or something along the lines..
No, it's really not rare. Like Dark said, it's very easy to get, especially in lots, and its collective value is only 5-10$ used to mint. It has only competitive value, but nothing more. About like Master Draciel.
(Oct. 03, 2014 6:38 AM)~Stoney~ Wrote:You mean "Metal" Draciel right?(Oct. 03, 2014 3:41 AM)BBXtremist Wrote:(Oct. 03, 2014 3:30 AM)Dark_Mousy Wrote: I don't think so. We got a few of them in a lot we ordered earlier this week. Ritsuka has abouit 3-4 of them in her car.
wow! you totally just blew my answer away! that's a lot of copies of the same beyblade.
i guess i referring to the collective value or something along the lines..
No, it's really not rare. Like Dark said, it's very easy to get, especially in lots, and its collective value is only 5-10$ used to mint. It has only competitive value, but nothing more. About like Master Draciel.
Why do you reckon she meant Metal Draciel?
Metal Draciel is pretty useless competitively.
Metal Draciel is pretty useless competitively.
? Nope. Metal Draciel's attack ring has use in attack types and zombies.
(Oct. 04, 2014 11:17 AM)JinbeeTheShark Wrote:(Oct. 03, 2014 6:38 AM)~Stoney~ Wrote:You mean "Metal" Draciel right?(Oct. 03, 2014 3:41 AM)BBXtremist Wrote: wow! you totally just blew my answer away! that's a lot of copies of the same beyblade.
i guess i referring to the collective value or something along the lines..
No, it's really not rare. Like Dark said, it's very easy to get, especially in lots, and its collective value is only 5-10$ used to mint. It has only competitive value, but nothing more. About like Master Draciel.
I meant: Metal Draciel is about as valuable and competitively useful as Master Draciel. They're both not rare or expensive, but useful.
(Oct. 04, 2014 2:33 PM)Ultra Wrote: ? Nope. Metal Draciel's attack ring has use in attack types and zombies.
Since Triple Wing, Triple Tiger, and Cross Griffon are easily obtained, I was under the impression Metal Draciel's AR's recoil and fragility made it a useless choice for AR.
Same goes for common Zombie ARs.
I personally consider something useless if better choices that are easily obtained are available.
Well uh it's not useless if it has use in types which it does. Outclassed yes but not useless.
Master DZ/Metal DC's AR is decent. It's only bad if the height isn't right.