Equipment:
BB-10 Attack Type Beystadium
3 Segment Grip
Beylauncher w/ Launcher Rubber

Not using any metal faces in this batch of testing, since it's all stamina tests.

Phantom (Hasbro) Aquario AD145WD vs. Scythe (Hasbro) Aquario AD145WD
Phantom launched first on odd rounds, Scythe first on evens. WD's switched after 10 rounds.

Spoiler (Click to View)

1. Phantom KO
2. Scythe OS
3. Scythe OS
4. Scythe KO
5. Scythe KO
6. Scythe OS
7. Phantom OS
8. Phantom OS
9. Tie; Scythe OS
10. Scythe KO
-WDs switched-
11. Scythe KO
12. Scythe OS
13. Scythe OS
14. Phantom OS
15. Phantom OS
16. Scythe KO
17. Phantom KO
18. Scythe KO
19. Scythe KO
20. Scythe OS

Phantom: 6 (4 OS, 2 KO)
Scythe: 14 (8 OS, 6 KO)
Phantom Win %: 30%
Scythe Win %: 70%

Well, I have a theory for this battle. Since Scythe sits much lower on tracks than Phantom does, is more circular, and has less recoil, Phantom was at a huge disadvantage. Scythe sits much lower on AD145 than Phantom, so it can get under and destabilize Phantom, and occasionally KOing it. The WD conditions are about the same, so I don't think they affected the results very much.

I put them both up against an old top stamina custom, Hell Kerbecs BD145WD. Why not a more current stamina setup? Let's be honest, these things have no chance against 4D stamina combos, let alone any Synchrome. If you want me to posts tests of them getting slaughtered, I don't mind, but yeah...

Anyways, this will at least give us a better idea of which is better.

Phantom (Hasbro) Aquario AD145WD vs. Hell Kerbecs BD145 (Boost Mode) WD
Phantom launched first on odd rounds, Hell first on evens.

Spoiler (Click to View)

1. Tie; Hell OS
2. Phantom OS
3. Phantom KO
4. Hell OS
5. Hell OS
6. Hell OS
7. Hell OS
8. Hell KO
9. Hell KO
10. Phantom KO
11. Hell OS
12. Phantom OS
13. Phantom OS
14. Hell OS
15. Hell OS
16. Phantom OS
17. Phantom OS
18. Hell KO
19. Hell KO
20. Hell OS

Phantom: 7 (5 OS, 2 KO)
Hell: 13 (9 OS, 4 KO)
Phantom Win %: 35%
Hell Win %: 65%

The OS's were terribly close every time if it was in Phantoms favor. If Phantom OS'd it, it was a miracle, and it barely did it.

Now for Scythe chance at glory.

Scythe (Hasbro) Aquario AD145WD vs. Hell Kerbecs BD145 (Boost Mode) WD
Scythe launched first on odd rounds, Hell first on evens.

Spoiler (Click to View)

1. Hell OS
2. Hell OS
3. Scythe OS
4. Hell OS
5. Hell OS
6. Hell OS
7. Hell OS
8. Scythe OS
9. Hell OS
10. Scythe OS
11. Hell OS
12. Hell OS
13. Hell OS
14. Hell OS
15. Hell OS
16. Hell OS
17. Scythe OS
18. Hell OS
19. Hell OS
20. Scythe OS

Scythe: 5 (5 OS, 0 KO)
Hell: 15 (15 OS, 0 KO)
Scythe Win %: 25%
Hell Win %: 75%

Albeit Scythe got a lower result than Phantom, I'd say they're about equal. I wish I had two W145's so I could compare them a little better.

Some attack tests I did the other day:

MF Phantom (Hasbro) Cancer W145MF vs. MF Duo (Stamina Mode) Sagittario II BD145CS
Duo always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Duo KO
2. Duo OS
3. Phantom OS
4. Phantom OS
5. Duo KO
6. Phantom KO
7. Phantom OS
8. Phantom OS
9. Phantom OS
10. Phantom OS
11. Phantom OS
12. Duo OS
13. Phantom OS
14. Duo OS
15. Duo OS
16. Phantom OS
17. Duo OS
18. Phantom OS
19. Phantom OS
20. Phantom OS

Phantom : 13 (12 OS, 1 KO)
Duo: 7 (5 OS, 2 KO)
Phantom Win %: 65.0%
Duo Win %: 35.0%

Not quite as good as the real deal, but I found this to be quite surprising..

MF Phantom (Hasbro) Cancer TH170R2F vs. MF Duo (Stamina Mode) Sagittario II BD145CS
Duo always launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Duo OS
2. Duo OS
3. Duo OS
4. Duo OS
5. Duo KO

Phantom : 0 (0 OS, 0 KO)
Duo: 5 (4 OS, 1 KO)
Phantom Win %: 0.0%
Duo Win %: 100.0%

I dunno why I did this, lol

Did this the other day too:

Phantom (Hasbro) Cancer 90WD vs. MF Duo (Stamina Mode) Sagittario II BD145CS
Duo launched first.

Detail Results (Click to View)

1. Phantom OS
2. Phantom OS
3. Phantom OS
4. Phantom OS
5. Phantom OS
6. Duo OS
7. Duo KO
8. Duo OS
9. Phantom OS
10. Phantom OS

Phantom : 7 (7 OS, 0 KO)
Duo : 3 (2 OS, 1 KO)
Phantom Win %: 70.0%
Duo Win %: 30.0%

Long boring battles. Bleh. Phantom seemed to have the upper hand, but not by much. I was expecting these results.

So Hasbro Scythe is better than Hasbro Phantom....Just sad

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It's still too early to make conclusions. I'll do some spin times.

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So I wanted to test Hasbro Phantom in a Balance type use which is MF Phantom Aquario BD145CS (I dont have a Cancer CW)


My Tests:


MF Phantom Aquario BD145CS vs Death Aquario E230RDF

Spoiler (Click to View)

MF Phantom Aquario BD145CS: 2 Wins (1 OS,1 KO)
Death Aquario E230RDF: 18 Wins (All OS)

MF Phantom Aquario BD145CS vs Meteo L-Drago CH145EWD[b][u]

Spoiler (Click to View)

MF Phantom Aquario BD145CS: 0 Wins
Meteo L-Drago CH145EWD:20 Wins (All OS)

[b][u]MF Phantom Aquario BD145CS vs MF Diablo Aquario TH170MB I dont have a second BD145 so TH170 is the substitude,I have a second CS but it is not worn down so MB is the substitude

Spoiler (Click to View)

MF Phantom Aquario BD145CS: 0 Wins
Diablo Aquario TH170MB: 20 Wins (18 OS,2 KO)

MF Phantom Aquario BD145CS vs Hell Kerbecs AD145WD I dont have a second BD145 so I thought AD145 was the best substitude

Spoiler (Click to View)

MF Phantom Aquario BD145CS: 4 Wins (3 KO,1 OS)
Hell Kerbecs BD145WD: 16 Wins (15 OS,1 KO)

Phantom Aquario BD145CS vs Phantom Bull AD145WD

Spoiler (Click to View)

Phantom Aquario BD145CS: 0 Wins
Phantom Bull AD145WD: 20 Wins (All OS)

Im still having trouble trying to post pictures

UGottaCetus's request will happen probably tommorow

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Ok so UGottaCetus's requests will be done


MF Phantom Aquario 85MF


I don't have Cygnus or Hades so Aquario will be used

MF Phantom Aquario 85MF vs MF Death Aquario E230RDF

Spoiler (Click to View)

Phantom Aquario 85MF:7 Wins (All OS)
MF Death Aquario E230RDF:13 Wins (All OS)

MF Phantom Aquario 85MF vs Meteo L-Drago CH145EWD

Spoiler (Click to View)

Phantom Aquario 85MF:10 Wins (All KO)
Meteo L-Drago CH145EWD: 10 Wins (All OS)

MF Phantom Aquario 85MF vs MF Diablo Aquario BD145CS

Spoiler (Click to View)

Phantom Aquario 85MF: 10 Wins (All OS)
MF Diablo Aquario BD145CS: 10 Wins (All KO)

MF Phantom Aquario 85MF vs Hell Kerbecs BD145WD

Spoiler (Click to View)

MF Phantom Aquario: 9 Wins (All KO)
Hell Kerbecs BD145WD: 11 Wins (2 KO,9 OS)

MF Phantom Aquario 85MF vs Phantom Bull AD145WD

Spoiler (Click to View)

MF Phantom Aquario 85MF: 0 Wins
Phantom Bull AD145WD: 20 Wins (All OS)

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It seemed to do only decently at best. Maybe 90 would be better for it.....
Anyway, Cygnus and Hades play a fairly significant role that custom, so I think if they were used, it would have done better. But thanks alot for the test, definitely interesting.

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Thank God Hasbro's releasing the regular Phantom now.

I'll have the spin times up tomorrow.

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Thank God Hasbro's releasing the regular Phantom now.

I'll have the spin times up tomorrow.

I'm curious to see your spin times,I think I will do some spin times as well.

And yes Hasbro is Releasing a regular Phantom now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZhIvDiWQCM&feature=plcp

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IF I WAS YOU GUYS I WOULD NEVER BUY PHANTOM ORION (HASBRO)

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bladers in Ottawa please pm me to have a battle !!!!!

thanks to k!d death for the awesome avatar

IF I WAS YOU GUYS I WOULD NEVER BUY PHANTOM ORION (HASBRO)

Well,it is pretty decent,so I wouldn't just say it is not worth buying.It would be a pretty decent substitude if you didn't have a TT Phantom,but i would buy TT version for sure.

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No, it isn't a "decent" substitute, I'm sure it can be beaten by even Earth...

*ding ding ding*

Brb, testing that claim.

(along with those damn spin times I never did)

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No, it isn't a "decent" substitute, I'm sure it can be beaten by even Earth...

*ding ding ding*

Brb, testing that claim.

(along with those damn spin times I never did)

I guess it's time for me to test.I will test it against 2 outclassed stamina MW's,Earth and Burn.Hopefully it will do good.Test result will be up by 1-2 Days.Or 3

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Equipment: BB-10 Attack Type Beystadium
Beylauncher with Launcher Rubber on a 3 Seg.
WD's new.


MF-F Phantom (Hasbro Mold) Aquario AD145WD vs. MF-F Earth Aquario AD145WD
WDs switched after 10 rounds.
Phantom launched first on evens, Earth on odds.

Detailed results (Click to View)

1. E OS
2. E OS
3. E OS
4. E OS
5. E OS
6. E OS
7. E OS
8. E OS
9. E OS
10. E OS
-WD's switched-
11. E OS
12. E OS
13. P OS (Earth got destabilized, that's all, nothing to see here folks. Just a fluke.)
14. E OS
15. E OS

Phantom: 1 (1 OS) 7% win rate.
Earth: 14 (14 OS) 93% win rate.

Well, that was depressing.
I stopped at 15 because I thought that maybe one of my WDs was jank, and that after I switched them, Phantom might get an advantage.
NOPE.

So, Earth > Hasbro Phantom.
... good God.

I'm not gonna do the solo spin times. I figure it's pretty obvious now what the outcome will be now.

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Equipment: BB-10 Attack Type Beystadium
Beylauncher with Launcher Rubber on a 3 Seg.
WD's new.


MF-F Phantom (Hasbro Mold) Aquario AD145WD vs. MF-F Earth Aquario AD145WD
WDs switched after 10 rounds.
Phantom launched first on evens, Earth on odds.

Detailed results (Click to View)

1. E OS
2. E OS
3. E OS
4. E OS
5. E OS
6. E OS
7. E OS
8. E OS
9. E OS
10. E OS
-WD's switched-
11. E OS
12. E OS
13. P OS (Earth got destabilized, that's all, nothing to see here folks. Just a fluke.)
14. E OS
15. E OS

Phantom: 1 (1 OS) 7% win rate.
Earth: 14 (14 OS) 93% win rate.

Well, that was depressing.
I stopped at 15 because I thought that maybe one of my WDs was jank, and that after I switched them, Phantom might get an advantage.
NOPE.

So, Earth > Hasbro Phantom.
... good God.

I'm not gonna do the solo spin times. I figure it's pretty obvious now what the outcome will be now.

......Why Hasbro.Just why.So I have been testing this against Burn Bull AD145WD and here are my results so here you go


Phantom (Hasbro,duh) Bull AD145WD vs Burn Bull AD145WD

Spoiler (Click to View)

Phantom Bull AD145WD:2 Wins (All KO)
Burn Bull AD145WD:10 Wins (All OS)

You were correct.


EDIT:I don't think im going to do the rest.The results will just be embarrassing.


EDIT x2:would*

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