Dude, he said that is Ickes against Attack. So do not ask, and he said not to as well.
Anyways, I did not see it mentioned, so what mode is SA165 in, disk pointing up or down?

Disc is up. It basically looks like and oversized AD145

Wouldn't it be pointing down? As you said that it looks like an oversized AD145.

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Do you know how to read? Ingulit and Dark_Mousy clearly said that his combo loses to attack types.

Oh.Sorry MSF-H Reviser Reviser S130MB VS MSF-H Reviser Dragoon SA165EWD.I know I should have read it through completely,but seriously.What you said is EXTREMELY harsh

I really dont see the use of testing against that. But ill try to get around to it tomorrow.

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Do you know how to read? Ingulit and Dark_Mousy clearly said that his combo loses to attack types.

Oh.Sorry MSF-H Reviser Reviser S130MB VS MSF-H Reviser Dragoon SA165EWD.I know I should have read it through completely,but seriously.What you said is EXTREMELY harsh

It was mentioned 4 times on the first page itself that this combo sucks against attack types.

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I'd like a test of MSF-H Revizer Dragooon SA165 EWD vs MF-L Duo/Phantom Hades/Cancer BD145 MS. Just a random test.

Do you know how to read? Ingulit and Dark_Mousy clearly said that his combo loses to attack types.

Oh.Sorry MSF-H Reviser Reviser S130MB VS MSF-H Reviser Dragoon SA165EWD.I know I should have read it through completely,but seriously.What you said is EXTREMELY harsh

It was mentioned 4 times on the first page itself that this combo sucks against attack types.

Yes its in the OP. But no need to be so harsh.

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I'd like a test of MSF-H Revizer Dragooon SA165 EWD vs MF-L Duo/Phantom Hades/Cancer BD145 MS. Just a random test.

MS?That will be destabilixed to easily

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hmm... I was actually thinking of making a thread about Dragooon Dragooon B for Zero-G for Zero-G Top Tier really the same concept really. I was wondering if anyone had all the pieces could they do a compairson between Dragooon Dragooon SA165EWD and Reviser Dragooon SA165EWD I want to see if there are clear differences cause I do undrstand that Reviser does not have much recoil but want to see if Drragooon Syndergy is a greater increase. Thanks to anyone that does this.

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3/19/11 Spring Cherry Blossom ARISE
5/14/11 Blademore
5/29/11 Beydays come on
6/12/11 Fill my eyes double beyblade tournament
8/12/11 Summer Spin Showdown
9/18/11 Better Than School
10/16/11 The Dual Duel
11/19/11 Novembrr-Brawl
2/25/12 Leap Year Lashing
3/25/12 Cherry Blossom Combat 3rd Place
4/29/12 Spring Sortie 1st Place
5/26/12 Five Fist BeyDay 1st Place
7/22/12 The Triple Threat
8/12/12 The Lazy Hazy Swayz Beys of Summer
9/23/12 Autumn Assault 3rd Place
10/21/12 October Achtung 4th Place
11/17/12 Thrills, Spills, and Chills! 1st Place
2/2/13 Beyblade Colossuem 1st Place
3/24/13 Merry 2nd Anniversary 1st Place
4/21/13 Beyblade Revolution Qualifier
7/14/13 Heated Metal Plastic-y Madness!
1/19/14 Happy Gnu Year! 1st Place
3/30/14 GBT2: Maryland Qualifier

hmm... I was actually thinking of making a thread about Dragooon Dragooon B for Zero-G for Zero-G Top Tier really the same concept really. I was wondering if anyone had all the pieces could they do a compairson between Dragooon Dragooon SA165EWD and Reviser Dragooon SA165EWD I want to see if there are clear differences cause I do undrstand that Reviser does not have much recoil but want to see if Drragooon Syndergy is a greater increase. Thanks to anyone that does this.

I used both Dragooon Dragooon & Revizer Dragoooon Today. And I can say with out a shadow of a doubt Revizer Dragooon is better.

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Also try this:MF-H Duo Quetzacoatls BD145CS VS MSF-H Dragoon Reviser SA165EWD OR MF-H Duo Kerbecs 230MB vs MSF-H Dragoon Reviser SA165EWD

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Dragooon would simply win... Stamina vs Defense... even if it is spin steal the EWD will outlast CS. However RDF is questionable. Forgot Reviser would make it right spin it should be able to outlast Duo... however Zero-G stamian is ALWAYS questionable.

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3/19/11 Spring Cherry Blossom ARISE
5/14/11 Blademore
5/29/11 Beydays come on
6/12/11 Fill my eyes double beyblade tournament
8/12/11 Summer Spin Showdown
9/18/11 Better Than School
10/16/11 The Dual Duel
11/19/11 Novembrr-Brawl
2/25/12 Leap Year Lashing
3/25/12 Cherry Blossom Combat 3rd Place
4/29/12 Spring Sortie 1st Place
5/26/12 Five Fist BeyDay 1st Place
7/22/12 The Triple Threat
8/12/12 The Lazy Hazy Swayz Beys of Summer
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10/21/12 October Achtung 4th Place
11/17/12 Thrills, Spills, and Chills! 1st Place
2/2/13 Beyblade Colossuem 1st Place
3/24/13 Merry 2nd Anniversary 1st Place
4/21/13 Beyblade Revolution Qualifier
7/14/13 Heated Metal Plastic-y Madness!
1/19/14 Happy Gnu Year! 1st Place
3/30/14 GBT2: Maryland Qualifier

Dragooon would simply win... Stamina vs Defense... even if it is spin steal the EWD will outlast CS. However RDF is questionable.

Like Dark_Mousy said,attack is useless.But RDF is creating pure defense and might be worth trying

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Also try this:MF-H Duo Quetzacoatls BD145CS VS MSF-H Dragoon Reviser SA165EWD OR MF-H Duo Kerbecs 230MB vs MSF-H Dragoon Reviser SA165EWD

He did test against Death BD145 CS. So the results will be similar to that.

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Dragooon would simply win... Stamina vs Defense... even if it is spin steal the EWD will outlast CS. However RDF is questionable. Forgot Reviser would make it right spin it should be able to outlast Duo... however Zero-G stamian is ALWAYS questionable.

I'm not good with stuff like that,I'll go asking around at Build Me A combo #2

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Also try this:MF-H Duo Quetzacoatls BD145CS VS MSF-H Dragoon Reviser SA165EWD OR MF-H Duo Kerbecs 230MB vs MSF-H Dragoon Reviser SA165EWD

He did test against Death BD145 CS. So the results will be similar to that.

Defense and POSSIBLY(as stated by *Billy*) Zero-G Stamina could be used.Any ideas for Zero-G stamina?

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Dragooon would simply win... Stamina vs Defense... even if it is spin steal the EWD will outlast CS. However RDF is questionable.

Like Dark_Mousy said,attack is useless.But RDF is creating pure defense and might be worth trying

Something I saw from testing attack types. If Dragoon doesnt get KO'd within the first hit or so then it wins. Ill do more testing tomorrow.

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I only meant to reference RDF since sometimes it has very close OS due to a similar WD nature, so I was thinking RDF might be able to compete with EWD if the combo is in left spin as the title states it is normally in.

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3/19/11 Spring Cherry Blossom ARISE
5/14/11 Blademore
5/29/11 Beydays come on
6/12/11 Fill my eyes double beyblade tournament
8/12/11 Summer Spin Showdown
9/18/11 Better Than School
10/16/11 The Dual Duel
11/19/11 Novembrr-Brawl
2/25/12 Leap Year Lashing
3/25/12 Cherry Blossom Combat 3rd Place
4/29/12 Spring Sortie 1st Place
5/26/12 Five Fist BeyDay 1st Place
7/22/12 The Triple Threat
8/12/12 The Lazy Hazy Swayz Beys of Summer
9/23/12 Autumn Assault 3rd Place
10/21/12 October Achtung 4th Place
11/17/12 Thrills, Spills, and Chills! 1st Place
2/2/13 Beyblade Colossuem 1st Place
3/24/13 Merry 2nd Anniversary 1st Place
4/21/13 Beyblade Revolution Qualifier
7/14/13 Heated Metal Plastic-y Madness!
1/19/14 Happy Gnu Year! 1st Place
3/30/14 GBT2: Maryland Qualifier

I only meant to reference RDF since sometimes it has very close OS due to a similar WD nature, so I was thinking RDF might be able to compete with EWD if the combo is in left spin as the title states it is normally in.

Makes since.I''ll ask around the Build Me A combo thread

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I only meant to reference RDF since sometimes it has very close OS due to a similar WD nature, so I was thinking RDF might be able to compete with EWD if the combo is in left spin as the title states it is normally in.

For it to be a technical "Zombie" it has to have a bearing core. Read up on it on Beywiki

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The counter isn't meant to be a zombie. As above I was just thinking that a defense type with RDF would stand a better chance than something as CS, RS, RSF, RB of course the combo would have to be Dragooon Reviser and not vice versa or aka right spin Dragooon Reviser.

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3/19/11 Spring Cherry Blossom ARISE
5/14/11 Blademore
5/29/11 Beydays come on
6/12/11 Fill my eyes double beyblade tournament
8/12/11 Summer Spin Showdown
9/18/11 Better Than School
10/16/11 The Dual Duel
11/19/11 Novembrr-Brawl
2/25/12 Leap Year Lashing
3/25/12 Cherry Blossom Combat 3rd Place
4/29/12 Spring Sortie 1st Place
5/26/12 Five Fist BeyDay 1st Place
7/22/12 The Triple Threat
8/12/12 The Lazy Hazy Swayz Beys of Summer
9/23/12 Autumn Assault 3rd Place
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11/17/12 Thrills, Spills, and Chills! 1st Place
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3/24/13 Merry 2nd Anniversary 1st Place
4/21/13 Beyblade Revolution Qualifier
7/14/13 Heated Metal Plastic-y Madness!
1/19/14 Happy Gnu Year! 1st Place
3/30/14 GBT2: Maryland Qualifier

MF-H Diablo Kerbecs\Unicorno II BD145RDF vs MSF-H Reviser Dragoon SA165EWD

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Decided to do ALOT of testing. Be prepared for a long read. Ready? Got your coffee ready? Good lets begin

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3 segment launcher
Left string launcher
Rubber grip
Grip extender
LED Sight
Angle Compass {Hasbro}
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MSF Revizer Dragooon SA165 EWD vs MF H Duo Cancer 230 MB

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Alternating shots done 0 ties

Revizer Dragoon: 20 wins (All OS)
Duo: 0 Win

Revizer Dragooon Win rate 100%

MSF Revizer Dragooon SA165 EWD vs MSF Revizer Revizer E230 CS

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Alternating Shots done. 0 Ties.

Revizer Dragooon: 20 Wins (All OS)
Revizer Revizer: 0 wins

Revizer Dragooon Win Rate 100%

MSF Revizer Dragooon SA165 EWD vs MF H Duo Aquario BD145 CS

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Revizer Dragooon: 18 woms [18 OS]
Duo: 2 Wins [2 KO]

Revizer Dragooon Win Rate 90%

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Damn, those results are impressive. Like crazy impressive.

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12/15/12: Holiday Havoc! (Zero-G)
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5/26/12: BeyDays 2013! (BB-10) (placed first)
7/14/13: Heated Metal Plastic-y Madness! (HMS + Plastics) (placed third in HMS)
7/20/13: The Bey Brawl! (BB-10)
9/28/13 "OK, alright, mirai~!" (BB-10) (placed second)
12/15/13 No Limit Holdem'! (Zero-G, Limited)
1/19/14 Happy Gnu Year! (Zero-G)
2/23/14 Better Late Than Never! (Limited, Plastics, which I got 3rd in)
3/29/14 GBT2 North Carolina Qualfier (Limited, got 4th)
3/30/14 GBT2 Maryland Qualifier (Limited)
6/8/14 A Prehistoric Venture (Limited, HMS, placed first in HMS)
6/21/14 A Timely Farewell (Standard, Tag-Team (not official format), Zero-G, placed first in tag-team and third in Zero-G)

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Damn, those results are impressive. Like crazy impressive.

test results are to surprising tho. The worst match up for this of course is attack types. This is annoying to use in tournaments because it tends to tie quite a lot when going against stamina types. Against certain stamina types yesterday it had 8-10 ties in one match.

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MSF Revizer Dragooon SA165 EWD vs MF H Duo Cancer 230 MB

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Alternating shots done 0 ties

Revizer Dragoon: 20 wins (All OS)
Duo: 0 Win

Revizer Dragooon Win rate 100%

MSF Revizer Dragooon SA165 EWD vs MSF Revizer Revizer E230 CS

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Alternating Shots done. 0 Ties.

Revizer Dragooon: 20 Wins (All OS)
Revizer Revizer: 0 wins

Revizer Dragooon Win Rate 100%

MSF Revizer Dragooon SA165 EWD vs MF H Duo Aquario BD145 CS

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Revizer Dragooon: 18 woms [18 OS]
Duo: 2 Wins [2 KO]

Revizer Dragooon Win Rate 90%

Oh lawdy these are some good results, thank you very much for doing these tests. I'll add the results to the OP.

EDIT: Added

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