I'm no expert but I think Vulcan should replace Hell for Attack. Why isn't Unicorno or L-Drago Destroy on the top tier list. This may be CRAZY but hasbro Night should be on the stamina list because it is very round, rounder than Burn and is streamlined. Also, Beafowl has even weight distribution and has streamlined shape. It has good stamina

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I'm no expert but I think Vulcan should replace Hell on the Attack list. Why aren't L-Drago Destroy and Unicorno on the Attack list. This may be CRAZY but Hasbro Night should be on the stamina list because it is round, rounder than Burn and is streamlined. I also think Beafowl should be on the stamina list because it has even weight distribution and has a streamlined shape.

FB, Anubis and TR145 need more testing.

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MF Hell Kerbecs BD145R2F is very popular in Italy, and is a very effective attack combo. Vulcan isn't effective against BasaltBD145, or most modern defence combo's. If you read the thread, you'd have noticed we just moved them around for a reason.

Unicorno isn't listed because it's a CW, and we don't list attack CW's.

As for Stamina CW's, read around, they're practically impossible to test. The link in my signature to my "Guide to Choosing A CW" should explain/link to Yamislayers explanation. Honestly, as long as the CW is balanced with respect to the MW, it's not making a huge difference.

Suggesting Night IS crazy, as testing has shown it sucks for stamina, so being smooth and streamlined means carp all.

TR145 is useless, at least for defense. Rollers have never worked. Anubis needs no testing, again, it's just a CW. Mercury, however, does need testing.

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Suggesting Night IS crazy, as testing has shown it sucks for stamina, so being smooth and streamlined means carp all.

defence is another story however it shows potential

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attack is another story however it shows potential

night has potential for attack? what?

it has no contact points at all!

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Meh, even Virgo had been proposed as having potential for attack, as it has the correct slopes for upper attack. Of course, it doesn't really have any attack potential. Night, honestly, would be too light to be "good" for attack, at least compared to current wheels.

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i meant defence whoops lol

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Ahh, well, that's possible, but, frankly, Virgo should be better (and it is passable defensively), given it weighs more.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but Gravity Perseus has defense to some extent.

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Yes. However, it still is being tested. It's often used as a smash attacker, so its hard to see it as a defense type. If I recall, MF Gravity Perseus BD145RS is a great defense combo.

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lolwat? BD145 and RS are not very decent, I think you mean GB145.

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Nope. I meant BD145. I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in your 'Castle' Perseus thread.

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Nope. I meant BD145. I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in your 'Castle' Perseus thread.

Yeah, how bad BD145 and RS would be together. lmao.

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Nope. I meant BD145. I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in your 'Castle' Perseus thread.

Yeah, how bad BD145 and RS would be together. lmao.

Hmm? I'm sure RS is too tall for BD145 to suffer scrapes.

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RS has really carp balance.

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RS has really carp balance.

Hmm. I'll give it a try. CS is a better choice in that case, right?

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Every time.

What do you mean by "every time"? I'm sure low-track defense combos work better with RS though.

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RS is better if your against attack but in a tourney situation CS is better because it has decent stamina so if your versing a stamina type you still have a chance

Ahh, well, that's possible, but, frankly, Virgo should be better (and it is passable defensively), given it weighs more.

if it even possible it actually roubder than virgo

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It's still not gonna be heavy enough to be on par with Dark or whatever. Honestly, it's probably not worth including...
That said, I don't have one, and haven't seen much useful testing on it.

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Well, rather annoying from my part, but I have yet another question.... Should Bakushin be included for attack? At least in Tier 3... Because I've seen that it has good amount of Smash, and is decent enough that people do suggest it in Build Me a Combo, if there are no other options of top tier wheels..

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Okay so MF Gravity Perseus BD145CS is meant to be a defense combo so Gravity Perseus should be in the defense tier 1 or 2.

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Yes. However, it still is being tested.

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Seriously, The Ryuga, stop posting until you actually know what you're talking about. BD145 does the defence work in that combo, NOT Gravity. Gravity alone has been shown to have very poor defence, due to having high recoil, even with the Perseus Stamina CW, which covers most of it's edges with plastic.

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Well, rather annoying from my part, but I have yet another question.... Should Bakushin be included for attack? At least in Tier 3... Because I've seen that it has good amount of Smash, and is decent enough that people do suggest it in Build Me a Combo, if there are no other options of top tier wheels..

well people just recommend it when there is nothing there , i think it should be included for stamina as it was said to be better then burn , i think it is decent for attack but i haven't seen any tests for it