MFB: Limited :: Competitive Customs List and Public Discussion

Can we add Bakushin 85/90MF in Balance Type? I know it has placed only at Indian tournament and almost 0 tests but it has placed multiple times (like almost every LTD event after September 2016) and dominated few events.

From my experience at tournaments it beats:-
1. All RSF/RB/RS based defence
2. All stamina types from 120-220
3. Deals well with most of attack well and counters lighting, phws pegasis, vulcan with 100% win.
4. Beats Burn MF
4. Easy to control

It loses to:-
Flame 230CS/MB (ties or oses if Baku user has strong launch)
Scythe mobile
Earth LTS/BC (but Baku can still KO them)
Cosmic RF

You may say its pretty similer to Scythe MF and Scythe have few advantages over it. And thats kinda true. But it we compare there advantage over each other:-

Scythe:-
More Stamina
Faster Speed
Better Upper Attack


Baku:-
More Forgiving to launch (like its MUCH easier to control and I placed using it with ONLY with hasbro light launcher and winder. Vs Scythe needs to have faster launch and it loses flower pattern much more easily)
Cheaper (Cheapest Scythe I found on ebay was 17$+ including shipping vs Baku was only 3-5$)
More Defence

And if you ever used Scythe. You may know it loses to all stuff I noted above too (about cosmic I'm not 100% sure) so I think both are pretty equal and Bakushin MF can be pretty good alternative to Scythe and deserves to be top-tier (try yourself to know why I think so. I'm sure you will like it)

Let me know what you all think also
@[ronitnath]
@[Arijit Sarkar]
@[ashton pinto]
@[AaryanBITW]
@[HarryAlchemist]

As you guys too used it pleaase share your thoughts on Baku MF.
Gb145 track is good for dual wing metal rings i feel like vulcan etc . S130 is the best option for mid level attack or defence

(Aug. 31, 2017  9:48 AM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: Can we add Bakushin 85/90MF in Balance Type? I know it has placed only at Indian tournament and almost 0 tests but it has placed multiple times (like almost every LTD event after September 2016) and dominated few events.

From my experience at tournaments it beats:-
1. All RSF/RB/RS based defence
2. All stamina types from 120-220
3. Deals well with most of attack well and counters lighting, phws pegasis, vulcan with 100% win.
4. Beats Burn MF
4. Easy to control

It loses to:-
Flame 230CS/MB (ties or oses if Baku user has strong launch)
Scythe mobile
Earth LTS/BC (but Baku can still KO them)
Cosmic RF

You may say its pretty similer to Scythe MF and Scythe have few advantages over it. And thats kinda true. But it we compare there advantage over each other:-

Scythe:-
More Stamina
Faster Speed
Better Upper Attack


Baku:-
More Forgiving to launch (like its MUCH easier to control and I placed using it with ONLY with hasbro light launcher and winder. Vs Scythe needs to have faster launch and it loses flower pattern much more easily)
Cheaper (Cheapest Scythe I found on ebay was 17$+ including shipping vs Baku was only 3-5$)
More Defence

And if you ever used Scythe. You may know it loses to all stuff I noted above too (about cosmic I'm not 100% sure) so I think both are pretty equal and Bakushin MF can be pretty good alternative to Scythe and deserves to be top-tier (try yourself to know why I think so. I'm sure you will like it)

Let me know what you all think also
@[ronitnath]
@[Arijit Sarkar]
@[ashton pinto]
@[AaryanBITW]
@[HarryAlchemist]

As you guys too used it pleaase share your thoughts on Baku MF.

Its a great combo i feel during last event it gave me a hard time when i was up against aaryan . Finally i used counter rotation that's meteo to win . But yes it was very tough to beat .. a little calculation mistake from my end and i would have been out of the stadium
Snidmist agreed with you. Though S130 doesn't work with all stuff (I think mostly gravity)
CW pegasis 3
Fw wing 4d
St 105
Pt r2f
What's your opinion?
(Jan. 07, 2018  9:18 PM)bblader90 Wrote: CW pegasis 3
Fw wing 4d
St 105
Pt r2f
What's your opinion?

This is Limited format so Wing isn't allowed here. But in STD its pretty goood anti-attacker
Thanxs for both answers ffcbp! Sorry for posting in the wrong thread though, but i don't know if 4d wing wheel is banned by WBO official tournaments...

Also i can't get why wing Fw is so underrated, on youtube battles it has an excellent winning rate. Plus, i added 105r2f which improves the whole bey...
(Jan. 09, 2018  11:53 AM)bblader90 Wrote: Thanxs for both answers ffcbp! Sorry for posting in the wrong thread though, but i don't know if 4d wing wheel is banned by WBO official tournaments...

Also i can't get why wing Fw is so underrated, on youtube battles it has an excellent winning rate. Plus, i added 105r2f which improves the whole bey...

it's just banned from Limited format. in Standards it's allowed.

Reason wing is not much used it because it's kinda outclassed by Scynchrome combos. they can do same thing yet better.

But alot of other 4D got outclassed by ZRG as well
Ok, i feel better now XD! Thank you for the infos Wink
I hate 0g's!
It's really big for a necro, but I don't see Meteo L-Drago CH120XF (or any XF tipped MLD customs too). Did someone forget to put them in or are they outclassed by something?
(Apr. 27, 2018  4:46 AM)RDF3 Wrote: It's really big for a necro, but I don't see Meteo L-Drago CH120XF (or any XF tipped MLD customs too). Did someone forget to put them in or are they outclassed by something?

I don't think you can really necropost in a pinned topic? It's kinda there to always be posted in, haha. Else it'd be locked.

Just starting to read into Metal Fight myself, but this is what I found on the last couple pages, if it helps:

(Aug. 05, 2016  6:57 PM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: Well I don't think SW145 ever scrapes on WD, it may do at last few wobble but it doesn't seems like that much noticable

also GCF and XF are basicly same :)

(Apr. 02, 2017  1:19 AM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: Well atleast from previous WBO testing, XF is proven to be not very effective on Attack.
Except MLD CH120XF isn't Attack, it falls under Balance. If it was Attack, Defense would stonewall it. As is the case, MLD can use spin-steal as well as the high stamina afforded by XF (coupled with the one tip that can smack it, RDF, being banned) to outspin these defense customs. But if you can use GCF, I think we'd rather use that.
I understand the list is super outdated anyway but why are TR145 and ed145 listed for the mid height cf/gcf combos? idk if tr145 is wide enough to actually have the rollers make contact with the stadium and i *know* ed145 isnt wide enough to touch the stadium, on GF versions of these combos of course TR and ed145 would work but for cf/gcf i feel like sw145 should be listed for if you want some extra weight since it dont scrape anyway, at least on the meteo combos since to my understanding gravity variants actually prefer being light since they dont have the rubber
So I've been wondering, whats the difference between cf & gcf
(Jan. 01, 2023  8:28 AM)popinbacon Wrote: So I've been wondering, whats the difference between cf & gcf

Gcf is wider that cf and gcf has little “gears” on it.
Sorry for necro but i just wanna make a new list with the new unbans.
Attack:  (All neee some kind of metal face)
Gravity Perseus Attack/Defense/Stamina 85/90/100/105/W105/LW105/DF105 RF/R2F/LRF
Screw Uranus/Unicorno/Susanow/Pisces/Horogium 100/W105/LW/105/DF105/CH120/D125 RF/R2F/LRF
Dark Knight Girago/Balro/Begirados/Phoenic 100/W105/LW105/DF105 RF/R2F/LRF
Bandit/Dark Knight/Archer Wyvang/Pegasus(except dk) H145/R145 RSF/RB
Archer/Bandit/Theif Pegasus W105/LW105/DF105/CH120/D125 RF/R2F/LRF
LLD 85/90/100/105/W105/LW105/DF105/CH120/D125/T125/H145/R145/SW145 RF/R2F/LRF
Jade Cancer/Cygnus/Aquario/Bull/Pegasus2/Kerbecs/Nemesis/Unicorno2 A230 RF
Pegasus A230/R145/CH120 RF/R2F/LRF
Defense: (Metal face is nice but not needed)
Bakushin Leone/Leone2/Cancer/Cygnus 85/90 RS/RSF/RB/CS
Gravity Perseus Defense/Stamina 85/90 RB/RSF
Earth Cancer/Cygnus/Sagittario2/Aquario/Bull/Pegasus2 85/90 RS/RSF/RB/CS
Jade Uranus/Bull/Aquario/Sagittario2/Cancer/Cygnus 85/90 RS/RSF/RB
Libra 85/90 RS/RSF 
MF(-H) Rock Eonis/Cygnus/Orion/Horogium/Leone/Kronos/Aquario/Hades 90 RSF/RF
Stamina: (Only use MF-L unless maximising defense (except flame 230 which only wants a plastic face) )
Earth Cancer/Cygnus/Aquario/Pegasus2/Sagittario2 90 WD/EWD/W2D/CS/B:D
Duo Gemios/Scorpio/Bxyis/Cancer B:D
Virgo B:D/ TH170/SR200 TB/CS
Meteo L’Drago 105/W105/LW105/DF105 WD/W2D/EWD
Flame Any Cw 230/SR200/TH170 CS/MB
Libra B:D/230 CS/MB
Balance:
Libra CH120 RF
Earth Sagittario2 90 RF
Gravity Perseus (Stamina) CH120 MF
Bakushin Leone/Leone2/Cancer/Cygnus 85/90 MF
(May. 19, 2023  2:06 AM)magnetoisbroken Wrote: Sorry for necro but i just wanna make a new list with the new unbans.
Attack:  (All neee some kind of metal face)
Gravity Perseus Attack/Defense/Stamina 85/90/100/105/W105/LW105/DF105 RF/R2F/LRF
Screw Uranus/Unicorno/Susanow/Pisces/Horogium 100/W105/LW/105/DF105/CH120/D125 RF/R2F/LRF
Dark Knight Girago/Balro/Begirados/Phoenic 100/W105/LW105/DF105 RF/R2F/LRF
Bandit/Dark Knight/Archer Wyvang/Pegasus(except dk) H145/R145 RSF/RB
Archer/Bandit/Theif Pegasus W105/LW105/DF105/CH120/D125 RF/R2F/LRF
LLD 85/90/100/105/W105/LW105/DF105/CH120/D125/T125/H145/R145/SW145 RF/R2F/LRF
Jade Cancer/Cygnus/Aquario/Bull/Pegasus2/Kerbecs/Nemesis/Unicorno2 A230 RF
Pegasus A230/R145/CH120 RF/R2F/LRF
Defense: (Metal face is nice but not needed)
Bakushin Leone/Leone2/Cancer/Cygnus 85/90 RS/RSF/RB/CS
Gravity Perseus Defense/Stamina 85/90 RB/RSF
Earth Cancer/Cygnus/Sagittario2/Aquario/Bull/Pegasus2 85/90 RS/RSF/RB/CS
Jade Uranus/Bull/Aquario/Sagittario2/Cancer/Cygnus 85/90 RS/RSF/RB
Libra 85/90 RS/RSF
Stamina: (Only use MF-L unless maximising defense (except flame 230 which only wants a plastic face) )
Earth Cancer/Cygnus/Aquario/Pegasus2/Sagittario2 90 WD/EWD/W2D/CS/B:D
Duo Gemios/Scorpio/Bxyis/Cancer B:D
Virgo B:D/ TH170/SR200 TB/CS
Meteo L’Drago 105/W105/LW105/DF105 WD/W2D/EWD
Flame Any Cw 230/SR200/TH170 CS/MB
Libra B:D/230 CS/MB
Balance:
Libra CH120 RF
Earth Sagittario2 90 RF
Sorry,but where are stallers?
(May. 24, 2023  8:39 AM)gunbo Wrote:
(May. 19, 2023  2:06 AM)magnetoisbroken Wrote: Sorry for necro but i just wanna make a new list with the new unbans.
Attack:  (All neee some kind of metal face)
Gravity Perseus Attack/Defense/Stamina 85/90/100/105/W105/LW105/DF105 RF/R2F/LRF
Screw Uranus/Unicorno/Susanow/Pisces/Horogium 100/W105/LW/105/DF105/CH120/D125 RF/R2F/LRF
Dark Knight Girago/Balro/Begirados/Phoenic 100/W105/LW105/DF105 RF/R2F/LRF
Bandit/Dark Knight/Archer Wyvang/Pegasus(except dk) H145/R145 RSF/RB
Archer/Bandit/Theif Pegasus W105/LW105/DF105/CH120/D125 RF/R2F/LRF
LLD 85/90/100/105/W105/LW105/DF105/CH120/D125/T125/H145/R145/SW145 RF/R2F/LRF
Jade Cancer/Cygnus/Aquario/Bull/Pegasus2/Kerbecs/Nemesis/Unicorno2 A230 RF
Pegasus A230/R145/CH120 RF/R2F/LRF
Defense: (Metal face is nice but not needed)
Bakushin Leone/Leone2/Cancer/Cygnus 85/90 RS/RSF/RB/CS
Gravity Perseus Defense/Stamina 85/90 RB/RSF
Earth Cancer/Cygnus/Sagittario2/Aquario/Bull/Pegasus2 85/90 RS/RSF/RB/CS
Jade Uranus/Bull/Aquario/Sagittario2/Cancer/Cygnus 85/90 RS/RSF/RB
Libra 85/90 RS/RSF
Stamina: (Only use MF-L unless maximising defense (except flame 230 which only wants a plastic face) )
Earth Cancer/Cygnus/Aquario/Pegasus2/Sagittario2 90 WD/EWD/W2D/CS/BGrin
Duo Gemios/Scorpio/Bxyis/Cancer BGrin
Virgo BGrin/ TH170/SR200 TB/CS
Meteo L’Drago 105/W105/LW105/DF105 WD/W2D/EWD
Flame Any Cw 230/SR200/TH170 CS/MB
Libra BGrin/230 CS/MB
Balance:
Libra CH120 RF
Earth Sagittario2 90 RF
Sorry,but where are stallers?
Yeah mb
(Aug. 18, 2022  10:45 PM)protodigs Wrote: I understand the list is super outdated anyway but why are TR145 and ed145 listed for the mid height cf/gcf combos? idk if tr145 is wide enough to actually have the rollers make contact with the stadium and i *know* ed145 isnt wide enough to touch the stadium, on GF versions of these combos of course TR and ed145 would work but for cf/gcf i feel like sw145 should be listed for if you want some extra weight since it dont scrape anyway, at least on the meteo combos since to my understanding gravity variants actually prefer being light since they dont have the rubber

which list do you mean? I have been looking for some more resources for MFB limited, and the wiki was quite lackluster, and sometimes very outdated with usecases (like r145 not having any on the wiki, being one of the best ways to add weight right now)