It is just me, or this combo fails against MF-H Libra 85D? I tried testing it and all, Lightning doesn't make any contact, instead, BD145 does. I wonder how you got those results bluezee? :V.
MF Lightning L Drago BD145LRF
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Its his 'special' launch =V
(Apr. 24, 2011 2:29 PM)Azlanslayer Wrote: It is just me, or this combo fails against MF-H Libra 85D? I tried testing it and all, Lightning doesn't make any contact, instead, BD145 does. I wonder how you got those results bluezee? :V.
I don't think it is his launch. When you slide shoot it, BD145 should be pushing the opponent wherever it [BD145] is headed which can cause KO's. Or if your at the right angle with BD145, you can still get Lightning to make contact. Just a guess, I'll do some LTHC tests later.
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I'll vouch that bd145 messes with mfh libra 85d, fwiw. Maybe you're shooting ot wrong, but iirc, you should be able to force libra to scrape badly, or spin itself out of the stadium.
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(Apr. 24, 2011 4:45 PM)th!nk Wrote: I'll vouch that bd145 messes with mfh libra 85d, fwiw. Maybe you're shooting ot wrong, but iirc, you should be able to force libra to scrape badly, or spin itself out of the stadium.
Haha, so true, I get that so much with our combinations!
MF Lightning LDrago BD145RF vs. MF-H Basalt Cancer 85WD
MF Lightning LDrago BD145RF win rate: 7/10 (4 KO, 3 OS)
MF-H Basalt Cancer 85WD win rate: 3/10 (3 OS)
bluezee, since you always talk about gattyaki and how great it is, how does this combo stand up to gattyaki?
its a slightly bigger target because of bd145 and im just wondering.
i dont want to argue, and this is going to be my only post about this, so all i want is a "yes it does" or "no it doesnt" based on gattyaki; thats it
its a slightly bigger target because of bd145 and im just wondering.
i dont want to argue, and this is going to be my only post about this, so all i want is a "yes it does" or "no it doesnt" based on gattyaki; thats it
Gattyaki will win. 20-30 grams dropped on top of BD145 will kill it, plain and simple.
Unless you're referring to snipe shooting which is completely different and currently, no one in the US can pull that off with consistency.
Unless you're referring to snipe shooting which is completely different and currently, no one in the US can pull that off with consistency.
(Apr. 24, 2011 8:56 PM)SSJfisherman Wrote: bluezee, since you always talk about gattyaki and how great it is, how does this combo stand up to gattyaki?
its a slightly bigger target because of bd145 and im just wondering.
i dont want to argue, and this is going to be my only post about this, so all i want is a "yes it does" or "no it doesnt" based on gattyaki; thats it
I never tried gattayaki with this. Also, I don't know what gattayaki does to this but apparently not much since this is 16-0. I dont think it will do much at all but i'm open to anything.
So BD145 Providing Spin Steal? With LLD
(Apr. 24, 2011 11:47 PM)Bluezee Wrote:Just using Ch120 for fun But to take this seriously i used GB145 Even i Tested With MLD and Pegasus MLD=Better Spin Stealing... Pegasus= BEST Force Smash And Smash Okay on Spin Stealing(Apr. 24, 2011 11:47 PM)Galaxy4ever Wrote:(Apr. 24, 2011 11:44 PM)Bluezee Wrote:Even i kept getting draws every time xD(Apr. 24, 2011 10:18 PM)Galaxy4ever Wrote: So BD145 Providing Spin Steal? With LLD
Yes that is precisely what it is.
What are you using it against?
How on earth is any Beyblade supposed to use whatever force smash they have available on BD145..? Or am I missing something?
(Apr. 25, 2011 2:28 AM)Dan Wrote: How on earth is any Beyblade supposed to use whatever force smash they have available on BD145..? Or am I missing something?Your Missing A little On Pegasus It Barely Spin Steal Due to Track Below the Other Bey But Can Support for Extra Smash force And
The Length of Pegasus is a Bit Wide so it Very close to The Edge Not even Close to Hell About Quarter inch
(Apr. 25, 2011 2:49 AM)Galaxy4ever Wrote: Your Missing A little On Pegasus It Barely Spin Steal Due to Track Below the Other Bey But Can Support for Extra Smash force And
The Length of Pegasus is a Bit Wide so it Very close to The Edge Not even Close to Hell About Quarter inch
Can you write comprehensible messages.
the Fact to BD145 with Pegasus....The Length to Pegasus is Wider Cause it a HWS Beyblade witch causes the Track to Go Deeper and little lower..On BD145 "About" The Size of Hell Wheel Even Pegasus Cant Fully Cover the Whole thing. But the Wings on Pegasus Metal wheel Expands Closer to the Edge of BD145 Witch Support more Smash Along with BD145...
Here My Testing
TT Attack Stadium
Bey Launcher+Grip holder+Takara Rip Cord
Defense Goes 1st then Attack
Earth Aquario=Banking Pegasus=Slade Shot
RS=NEW
RS=NEW
MF Pegasus BD145RF Vs. MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RS
MF Pegasus BD145RF Win Rates= 90% (9 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RS Win Rates= 10% (1 OS)
Here My Testing
TT Attack Stadium
Bey Launcher+Grip holder+Takara Rip Cord
Defense Goes 1st then Attack
Earth Aquario=Banking Pegasus=Slade Shot
RS=NEW
RS=NEW
MF Pegasus BD145RF Vs. MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RS
MF Pegasus BD145RF Win Rates= 90% (9 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RS Win Rates= 10% (1 OS)
(Apr. 25, 2011 3:14 AM)Galaxy4ever Wrote: the Fact to BD145 with Pegasus....The Length to Pegasus is Wider Cause it a HWS Beyblade witch causes the Track to Go Deeper and little lower..On BD145 "About" The Size of Hell Wheel Even Pegasus Cant Fully Cover the Whole thing. But the Wings on Pegasus Metal wheel Expands Closer to the Edge of BD145 Witch Support more Smash Along with BD145...
Here My Testing
TT Attack Stadium
Bey Launcher+Grip holder+Takara Rip Cord
Defense Goes 1st then Attack
Earth Aquario=Banking Pegasus=Slade Shot
RS=NEW
RS=NEW
MF Pegasus BD145RF Vs. MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RS
MF Pegasus BD145RF Win Rates= 90% (9 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RS Win Rates= 10% (1 OS)
Are you on narcotics while posting? What is wrong with your sentences? Test with Basalt, Earth is pretty outclassed.
(Apr. 25, 2011 9:27 PM)Dan Wrote:i don't have Basalt sorry(Apr. 25, 2011 3:14 AM)Galaxy4ever Wrote: the Fact to BD145 with Pegasus....The Length to Pegasus is Wider Cause it a HWS Beyblade witch causes the Track to Go Deeper and little lower..On BD145 "About" The Size of Hell Wheel Even Pegasus Cant Fully Cover the Whole thing. But the Wings on Pegasus Metal wheel Expands Closer to the Edge of BD145 Witch Support more Smash Along with BD145...
Here My Testing
TT Attack Stadium
Bey Launcher+Grip holder+Takara Rip Cord
Defense Goes 1st then Attack
Earth Aquario=Banking Pegasus=Slade Shot
RS=NEW
RS=NEW
MF Pegasus BD145RF Vs. MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RS
MF Pegasus BD145RF Win Rates= 90% (9 KO)
MF-H Earth Aquario GB145RS Win Rates= 10% (1 OS)
Are you on narcotics while posting? What is wrong with your sentences? Test with Basalt, Earth is pretty outclassed.
LOOOL, nice try tho. but its good to see that Pegasis still has some uses?
Pegasis has good smash Attack when it's on a 145 track so of course it still has some uses
Welcome to a few months ago, bro. Pegasis is pretty heavily outclassed and has been for a while.. There's no real reason to use it over other wheels. (Yeah, still on the top tier list, that list needs a revamp).
Speaking of heavily outclassed, mfh earth __ gb145rs isn't what I'd consider particularly great for meaningful test results. The fact is that you'd be mad to use it at a tourney because of how overspecialised it is, due to terrible stamina. Most anything not on rubber, or on rubber but in left spin, will outspin you (or ko in the latter case some time).
Jus' sayin' 's all.
Speaking of heavily outclassed, mfh earth __ gb145rs isn't what I'd consider particularly great for meaningful test results. The fact is that you'd be mad to use it at a tourney because of how overspecialised it is, due to terrible stamina. Most anything not on rubber, or on rubber but in left spin, will outspin you (or ko in the latter case some time).
Jus' sayin' 's all.
More results. Supposedly, Blitz and others found Earth Aquario 100SD to be a counter to this. However, I will let the results show you just how much the counter fails.
Tank vs. Earth Aquario 100SD
Tank: 16/20(13 KO 3 OS)
Earth: 3/20 (3OS)
1 Double KO
I can see why they thought it would work based on what they were doing, which was more than likely sliding shoot, however, against a stamina type, you are supposed to use banking. BD145 gets under Earth and completely destabilizes it while banking. On top of that, when banking, Lightning can make contact with Earth and make a KO rather quickly or even near the end of the match. Due to Earth being round, it is harder to make a KO with BD145 alone but with banking, the job gets done rather well.
Tank vs. Earth Aquario 100SD
Tank: 16/20(13 KO 3 OS)
Earth: 3/20 (3OS)
1 Double KO
I can see why they thought it would work based on what they were doing, which was more than likely sliding shoot, however, against a stamina type, you are supposed to use banking. BD145 gets under Earth and completely destabilizes it while banking. On top of that, when banking, Lightning can make contact with Earth and make a KO rather quickly or even near the end of the match. Due to Earth being round, it is harder to make a KO with BD145 alone but with banking, the job gets done rather well.
The reasons I didn't post the results we got are the fact that the SD that was being used was super worn and wouldn't be tournament legal. However I did find this combo does work very well agaisnt MF-H Basalt 230CS.
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