METAL FIGHT BEYBLADE: It's here!

As for the combination count, you guys should count the 090 Track and the Wide Flat Bottom.

Beginning the last performance test. When the tests are complete, I will provide a data report.
(Aug. 31, 2008  5:57 PM)mightyboosh9 Wrote: hi everyone this is how i found out there were 48 combinations

1. pegasis 105 flat
2. pegasis 145 flat.............

There's a much easier way. Say you have 4 different wheels, 3 different tracks, and 4 different bottoms. Total number of combinations is 4x3x4 = 48.
(Sep. 02, 2008  2:51 AM)Nic Wrote:
(Aug. 31, 2008  5:57 PM)mightyboosh9 Wrote: hi everyone this is how i found out there were 48 combinations

1. pegasis 105 flat
2. pegasis 145 flat.............

There's a much easier way. Say you have 4 different wheels, 3 different tracks, and 4 different bottoms. Total number of combinations is 4x3x4 = 48.

Oh, yeah. Duh, that makes sense. I forgot! xD
More information on Wolf:

The tip is a plastic Ball shape.

The track, S125, is a 125 track with a large ring around it. The official description reads, "The big wheel that's positioned on the exterior produces a centrifugal force, and causes endurance to increase."
I'm still debating on order. Since judging by people's testing, they don't sem as good or better than HMS's like Wolborg MS, and I think it was Brad or Anubis that tested out one of them with an MSUV and the MFBs failed.
It's not terrifically surprising that current model MFB lost to a DGMSUV... Grip Flat Ultimate Mode is a brutal piece (still need to get my hands on one). Personally, I don't like setting the performance bar at WBMS, as that one was so obscenely overpowered straight out of the box.

As it stands right now, yes, HMS as a set are superior. Far more customization capabilities, a very diverse range of parts, many of which are very advanced in design. However, I feel it is unfair to judge the entire set of MFB as a failure based upon the initial releases. Remember, this is an entirely new design, put out by a company that's gone through a lot of changes since Beyblades were last made. Hell, the Tomy name is FAR more prominent on these parts than the Takara name. Give 'em more time. We're already seeing a part with a unique gimmick in Wolf, coming out later this month. I strongly suspect we'll be seeing a lot of variations on the Track and Bottom in later releases.
Wolf and Pegasis sound the most fun.
Quetzlcoatl (sp?) looks really nice, but boy is it expensive.
(Sep. 02, 2008  7:59 AM)Gekiryu Wrote: I'm still debating on order. Since judging by people's testing, they don't sem as good or better than HMS's like Wolborg MS, and I think it was Brad or Anubis that tested out one of them with an MSUV and the MFBs failed.

just because at the moment mfb is not as powerful doesnt matter because
1) they will get better when better parts come out
and
2) in tournaments they wont be used against hms anyway

also i know this is off topic but does anyone know what happend to that reputation thing
(Sep. 02, 2008  7:23 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: The track, S125, is a 125 track with a large ring around it.
Would you say D125 does not exist ? Fpara has two entries for Wolf Starter : Wolf D125B and Wolf S125B.
(Sep. 02, 2008  11:43 AM)mightyboosh9 Wrote:
(Sep. 02, 2008  7:59 AM)Gekiryu Wrote: I'm still debating on order. Since judging by people's testing, they don't sem as good or better than HMS's like Wolborg MS, and I think it was Brad or Anubis that tested out one of them with an MSUV and the MFBs failed.

just because at the moment mfb is not as powerful doesnt matter because
1) they will get better when better parts come out
and
2) in tournaments they wont be used against hms anyway

also i know this is off topic but does anyone know what happend to that reputation thing
It was replaced with a Thanks system.

And I know MFB is a different division, but it just doesn't impress me that HMS still seems a bit superior, taking into consideration that MSUV is utter carp uncustomized because of the AR being a pain in the neck
(Sep. 02, 2008  7:23 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: More information on Wolf:

The tip is a plastic Ball shape.

The track, S125, is a 125 track with a large ring around it. The official description reads, "The big wheel that's positioned on the exterior produces a centrifugal force, and causes endurance to increase."

Did you just read this or are there any pictures?
(Sep. 02, 2008  1:43 PM)Sasch Wrote:
(Sep. 02, 2008  7:23 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: More information on Wolf:

The tip is a plastic Ball shape.

The track, S125, is a 125 track with a large ring around it. The official description reads, "The big wheel that's positioned on the exterior produces a centrifugal force, and causes endurance to increase."

Did you just read this or are there any pictures?
Pictures would've most likely been posted if there were any.

So, I would guess that "S" stands for "Saucer", then?
This makes me mad. This implies that Wolf will be an endurance type, which I really hope it isn't. Since when are wolves the symbol of endurance?

Although it could still be a balance type, since it has the plastic Ball Bottom.
I dunno, wolves always seemed pretty enduring to me.

I don't know anything about D125, Kai-V.
(Sep. 02, 2008  2:21 PM)Grey Wrote:
(Sep. 02, 2008  1:43 PM)Sasch Wrote:
(Sep. 02, 2008  7:23 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: More information on Wolf:

The tip is a plastic Ball shape.

The track, S125, is a 125 track with a large ring around it. The official description reads, "The big wheel that's positioned on the exterior produces a centrifugal force, and causes endurance to increase."

Did you just read this or are there any pictures?
Pictures would've most likely been posted if there were any.

So, I would guess that "S" stands for "Saucer", then?
This makes me mad. This implies that Wolf will be an endurance type, which I really hope it isn't. Since when are wolves the symbol of endurance?

Although it could still be a balance type, since it has the plastic Ball Bottom.

Wolborg line ring any bells?

Looking forward to S125. Definitely. Smile
(Sep. 03, 2008  12:09 AM)bugturtles Wrote:
(Sep. 02, 2008  2:21 PM)Grey Wrote:
(Sep. 02, 2008  1:43 PM)Sasch Wrote:
(Sep. 02, 2008  7:23 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: More information on Wolf:

The tip is a plastic Ball shape.

The track, S125, is a 125 track with a large ring around it. The official description reads, "The big wheel that's positioned on the exterior produces a centrifugal force, and causes endurance to increase."

Did you just read this or are there any pictures?
Pictures would've most likely been posted if there were any.

So, I would guess that "S" stands for "Saucer", then?
This makes me mad. This implies that Wolf will be an endurance type, which I really hope it isn't. Since when are wolves the symbol of endurance?

Although it could still be a balance type, since it has the plastic Ball Bottom.

Wolborg line ring any bells?

Looking forward to S125. Definitely. Smile

Yeah, and that's why I dislike it. If Wolf is a Stamina type, it'll be a total rehash of a past Beyblade. Partial rehashes are okay, but total rehashes of a Beyblade is annoying...unless it was an intentional rehash like an MFB-style Dragoon. In this case, it feels like they're trying to mimic Wolborg's (MS) success.

Although the ball tip implies it to not be a total stamina type...

Either way, I look forward to Wolf (especially the S125 Track), despite me not liking the concept it has.
I'm guessing Wolf is actually a defence type. It smells like a new Draciel to me, with a ball type tip and a momentum system. They couldn't possibly put in metal balls into such a small core and have the same effect, so it's replaced by a ring.
Considering the name of Wolf i would think it would be an attack type Confused, but thats just considering the name Tongue_out_wink
(Sep. 03, 2008  1:58 PM)Nic Wrote: I'm guessing Wolf is actually a defence type. It smells like a new Draciel to me, with a ball type tip and a momentum system. They couldn't possibly put in metal balls into such a small core and have the same effect, so it's replaced by a ring.

To me it sounds like they blended Rock Bison with Draciel. THAT or they're attempting to re-do what they did with Wolborg 4 with a ring instead of virutally the entire BB spinning.
(Sep. 03, 2008  3:23 PM)Rögnvaldur Wrote: Considering the name of Wolf i would think it would be an attack type Confused, but thats just considering the name Tongue_out_wink
Since Wolf Booster is an Attack type with 105F, chances are the Starter is not meant to attack.


Bey Brad Wrote:I don't know anything about D125, Kai-V.
Never mind. S and D are way too close for Japanese Fpara staff.
(Sep. 02, 2008  7:23 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: More information on Wolf:

The tip is a plastic Ball shape.

The track, S125, is a 125 track with a large ring around it. The official description reads, "The big wheel that's positioned on the exterior produces a centrifugal force, and causes endurance to increase."

Wow thats a good idea. Now im assuming there gonna have things similar to hmc with tracks.
(Sep. 04, 2008  3:08 AM)Maz Wrote:
(Sep. 02, 2008  7:23 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: More information on Wolf:

The tip is a plastic Ball shape.

The track, S125, is a 125 track with a large ring around it. The official description reads, "The big wheel that's positioned on the exterior produces a centrifugal force, and causes endurance to increase."

Wow thats a good idea. Now im assuming there gonna have things similar to hmc with tracks.

This is the opposite of HMC. Instead of having a more centralized weight, it distributes the weight to the edges.

I'm excited about this new update.
(Sep. 04, 2008  3:54 PM)Nic Wrote:
(Sep. 04, 2008  3:08 AM)Maz Wrote:
(Sep. 02, 2008  7:23 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: More information on Wolf:

The tip is a plastic Ball shape.

The track, S125, is a 125 track with a large ring around it. The official description reads, "The big wheel that's positioned on the exterior produces a centrifugal force, and causes endurance to increase."

Wow thats a good idea. Now im assuming there gonna have things similar to hmc with tracks.

This is the opposite of HMC. Instead of having a more centralized weight, it distributes the weight to the edges.

I'm excited about this new update.

Yeah i understood i mean now that they have this im assuming there gonna have things similar to hmc as well.
(Sep. 04, 2008  8:33 PM)Maz Wrote: Yeah i understood i mean now that they have this im assuming there gonna have things similar to hmc as well.

I am sure this will be done. They could easily just put a weight on the inside of the track, or even make the track metal.
A fully metal track might actually weaken the overall structure of the thing, considering how the parts lock together... I could see it stripping the thread on the Face.
Metal face then? I'm not sure how the MFB is constructed so I don't know if this would work..