Im doing it against libra now.

Hell as a tornado tester? I was hoping I wouldn't have to do that haha.

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Gotta test with all the majorly good set ups. Just to be sure .


I mean it has good weight distribution and smash. I could see it doing well on MF.

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LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

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There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

Same haha, I just didn't want to test 'till it looked good for hell
Joking haha

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http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Hell-Tes...light=Hell

http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-MF-H-Hel...light=Hell

You can add that testing to the OP.

Just trying to help.

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Pony King ? God, can't believe I typed this. I have to put my keyboard in the dishwasher now...

dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

You are helping mate cheers. I'll finish this testing and put some up in the morning or afterwards.

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Right here's some more test results

Hell Keberous 85RF VS Libra R145RS
Libra 13/20 (11OS, 2KO)
Hell 7 (KO)
Hell win rate 35%

Hell Keberous 85RF VS Libra R145CS
Hell 10 (KO)
Libra 10 (9OS 1KO)
Hell rate: 50%
Ill put some more up soonish.

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Just FYI RS is banned in Limited. The only legal Defense tips are CS, RSF, and RB.

Wow Hell sure can be unbanned based on the tests. I just fin it ironic that in Standard we try so hard to prove these parts good, and then here we try to hide those. We should have some of the older Hell testing threads from Standard in the OP too (The ones that don't use Banned parts), so we know what we are trying to prove against.

*Insert witty pun here*

Some VERY inconsistent results...

Hell Kerbecs 85RF (Click to View)

Hell Kerbecs 85RF VS MF-H Earth Bull C145CS
Hell Kerbecs 85RF: 8 wins
MF-H Earth Bull C145CS: 2 wins

Hell Kerbecs 85RF VS MF-H Earth Bull 230CS
Hell Kerbecs 85RF: 3 wins
MF-H Earth Bull 230CS: 7 wins

Hell Kerbecs 85RF VS MF-H Earth Bull R145CS
Hell Kerbecs 85RF: 4 wins
MF-H Earth Bull R145CS: 6 wins

Hell Kerbecs 100RF (Click to View)

Hell Kerbecs 100RF VS MF-H Earth Bull R145CS
HK: 5 wins
EB: 5 wins

Hell Kerbecs 100RF VS MF-H Earth Bull C145CS
HK: 7
EB: 3

Hell Kerbecs 105RF (Click to View)

Hell Kerbecs 105RF VS MF-H Earth Bull R145CS
HK: 6 wins
EB: 4 wins

Hell Kerbecs 105RF VS MF-H Earth Bull C145CS
HK: 5
EB: 5

Hell Kerbecs CH120RF (Click to View)

Hell Kerbecs CH120RF VS MF-H Earth Bull C145CS
HK: 5 wins
EB: 5 wins

Hell Kerbecs CH120RF VS MF-H Earth Bull 230CS
HK: 4 wins
EB: 6 wins

Hell Kerbecs CH120RF VS MF-H Earth Bull R145CS
HK: 3 wins
EB: 7 wins

Hell Kerbecs D125RF (Click to View)

Hell Kerbecs D125RF VS MF-H Earth Bull C145CS
HK: 6 wins
EB: 4 wins

Hell Kerbecs D125RF VS MF-H Earth Bull 230CS
HK: 4 wins
EB: 6 wins

Hell Kerbecs D125RF VS MF-H Earth Bull R145CS
HK: 2 wins
EB: 8 wins

Hell Kerbecs 145RF (Click to View)

Hell Kerbecs 145RF VS MF-H Earth Bull C145CS
HK: 5 wins
EB: 5 wins

Hell Kerbecs 145RF VS MF-H Earth Bull 230CS
HK: 9 wins
EB: 1 wins

Hell Kerbecs 145RF VS MF-H Earth Bull C145CS
HK: 5 wins
EB: 5 wins

I must also note that because of Hell's weight and diameter, the bey carries a lot of momentum around the stadium and excessively self KOs itself. I had to redo battles at least ten times because Hell Kerbecs KOd itself before making contact.

This is really the best I've gotten out of Hell, other tracks don't seem to cut it. But just request one, and I'd happily test it out for you.

Assuming he wont mind all testing done on hell here can be applied in limited. Although, they are only 10 tests.

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I can now do some tests with Hell. Any requests?

I can now do some tests with Hell. Any requests?

Hell Kerbecs 85MF please.

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Pony King ? God, can't believe I typed this. I have to put my keyboard in the dishwasher now...

dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

I can now do some tests with Hell. Any requests?

Hell Kerbecs 85MF please.

Okay i will do that today. Do you want it against defence types?

If you could do it against stamina and defence that would be great. Obviously stall against defence and slide shoot against stamina.

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Pony King ? God, can't believe I typed this. I have to put my keyboard in the dishwasher now...

dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

How well do tornado stallers do against an attack type bey. If they are okay, mind testing it against some attack types ?

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How well do tornado stallers do against an attack type bey. If they are okay, mind testing it against some attack types ?

Sure. I will do it ASAP.

Hell Kerbecs 85MF Vs Burn Cancer 90WD
Hell:16/20(16 KO)
Burn:4/20(4 KO)
Hell Win Rate:80%

Hell Kerbecs 85MF Vs Libra 85RSF
Hell:14/20(12 KO 2 OS)
Libra:6/20(4 KO 1 OS)
Hell Win Rate 60%

Hell Kerbecs 85MF Vs Cosmic Uranus 100RF
Hell:9/20(9 KO)
Cosmic:11/20(11 KO)
Hell Win Rate 45%

I'll do some high stamina types plus earth aswell
I thought d125 was the best height aswell?

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Those results are pretty good UltimateOrion.was expecting it to do a little better against RSF. Did they make contact at the beginning of the battle or did it stall for awhile then make contact?

@Poseiden: D125 on the staller? Nah, I'd use 90/85.

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LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

More tests, also I got to finish F230GCF. I have a Hasbro Orange F230.

MF-L Hell Kerbecs F230GCF vs. MF-L Earth Cancer B
Kerbecs: 18 wins (all OS)
Cancer: 2 wins (all OS)
3 ties redone
Kerbecs win rate: 90%

MF-L Hell Kerbecs F230GCF vs. MF-H Cosmic Unicorno TH195R2F
Kerbecs: 18 wins (6 KO, 12 OS)
Unicorno: 12 wins (all KO)
1 tie redone
Kerbecs win rate: 59.9%
Some of the insane hits Unicorno got make me want to believe Upper Attack exists in MFB. One time Kerbecs literally flew almost a foot in the air.

MF-L Hell Kerbecs F230CS vs. MF-H Cosmic Unicorno TH195R2F
Kerbecs: 15 wins (4 KO, 11 OS)
Unicorno: 5 wins (all KO)
Kerbecs win rate: 75%

MF-L Hell Kerbecs 85MF vs. MF-L Earth Cancer 90CS
Kerbecs: 16 wins (all OS)
Cancer: 3 wins (all OS)
Kerbecs win rate: 84%
For whatever reason I forgot to do a 20th round, haha. I guess it was one-sided enough.


Someone do F230GCF vs. Burn Tornado Staller. People used it to defeat Gravity F230GCF when it was still legal because it was short enough to avoid metal on metal contact so it might work against the taller Hell.

Thanks for all the testing guys
Also, I just remembered the three different Hell modes, I'll find the thread, but it might be the reason for the somewhat varied results.
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-HELL-Minute-Molds

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someone did "Hades" testing for variation... I just Have Hell from Hasbro so it could be interesting if hasbro does mold variation too

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I will be doing a lot of tests for Hell against these combos: MF Libra 90RS, MF Libra 230RS, MF-H Omega Gemoise CH120R2F, MF-H Lightning L-drago CH120LRF, MF-H Duo Cancer 230MB, MF Libra TH170D, MF-L Scythe Aquario W145EWD, and MF-F Burn Cygnus 85EWD, basically a 2:2:2:2 ratio between all types of beyblades (Balance, Defense, Stamina, and Attack). The combos i will be trying out with hell are as follows: Attack: MF-H Hell Horuseous 85R2F, Defense: MF-H Hell Cancer 85RS, Stamina: Hell Cancer 85WD (Do not have 2 EWD's so i need to use WD on Hell), and Balance: MF-H Hell Cancer 230CS. Hopefully these tests will help in the un-banning of Hell, I have very high hopes of it getting un-banned since it does not seem like doing so will make the meta-game unbalanced

Yeah i think this should be unbanned. Its not unbeatable.

I mean even if it's not unbeatable there's still going to be a bunch of problem combos. Ones I can think of off the top of my head are:

MF-L Hell Kerbecs 85MF
MF-L Hell Kerbecs F230GCF
MF-L Hell Kerbecs (230/F230/TH170CS/RS/RB/insert generic HTSC setup here)

If a variety of top tier stuff can beat those consistently it could be unbanned. It doesn't look as wicked as Omega for Attack but it would still be wise to compare the two anyways. I'd do these myself but I can't find my MFB yet :\ (insert generic Wombat excuse here)

MF-L Hell Cancer 230CS VS MF-H Lightning L-Drago CH120R2F

Hell:6/20(4 KO 2 OS)
Lightning:14/20 (14 KO)
Hell Win Rate:30%