I have just bought I2, Q2, gV, and kS.
Stamina: D2.6G.R
Defence: kS.2V.M (yes massive.)
any use for gV?
Stamina: D2.6G.R
Defence: kS.2V.M (yes massive.)
any use for gV?
(Jan. 15, 2018 7:50 PM)bidinga Wrote:(Jan. 15, 2018 7:47 PM)MWF Wrote: I have just bought I2, Q2, gV, and kS.
Stamina: D2.6G.R
Defence: kS.2V.M (yes massive.)
any use for gV?
i havent found any use for gV and all i have is dual layers and single layers like tbh even roktavor has better attack than it
(Jan. 15, 2018 11:44 PM)MonoDragon Wrote:(Jan. 15, 2018 8:54 PM)Rebel Blader Wrote: so far from testing done by @[kjrules17] it looks like orbit and atomic are the best drivers for right spin stamina
So the Hasbro metagame is starting to resemble Takara Tom's more
(Oct. 27, 2017 7:56 AM)Rebel Blader Wrote:(Oct. 26, 2017 10:55 PM)Etheral Spectre Wrote: Alright guys this is the list which will have confirmed parts and will also tell which parts need to be looked for testing.
Attack:
==KO Attack==
Roktavor Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle/Down/Limited Extreme/Variable(universally known to be good)
Xcalius Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle/Down/Limited Extreme/Variable(universally known to be good)
Valtryek V2 Magnum/Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle/Down/Limited Extreme/Variable(universally known to be good)
Valtryek Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle/Magnum/Down/Limited Extreme/Variable(universally known to be good)
Spryzen S2 Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle/Down/Limited Extreme/Variable(tested by wombat)
Reasons:
Added Down and limited since they are good alternatives.Limited is like a heavier version of force.it puts weight behind the contact points and lower weight means more burst defense and more speed.Added Down cuz it has the best burst defense and its owd increase aggressive movement it also has good stamina.did not added r2 since its worse than above mentioned layers but it also hasnt been tested that much.
Things to look into testing:
1)Z2 for KO Attack.2)Minoborus for KO attack.3)B2 for KO Attack.5)X2 for KO Attack.7)Horusood and Odax for KO attack.
==Mixed Attack==
Valtryek Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle/Spread Accel/Zephyr(universally known to be good)
Roktavor Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle Accel/Zephyr(universally known to be good)
Zeutron Z2 Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle Accel/Zephyr(tested by shaady)
Valtryek V2 Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle/Spread Accel/Zephyr(has been tested)
Spryzen S2 Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle Accel/Zephyr(tested by wombat)
Reasons for changes: Added spread only to valkryie since VSA was a popular tt combo and i am not sure how spread will do on other attack layers.Added S2 and Z2 since they have been tested.
Things to look into testing:
1)Spread for mixed attack.2)B2 for mixed attack.3)Minoborus for mixed attack.
==Stationary Burst Attack=
Valtryek Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle Needle/Press/Survive/Defense(universally known to be good)
Roktavor Gravity/Knuckle Needle/Press/Survive/Defense(universally known to be good)
Things to look into testing:
1)Stationary Minoborus, it can be a good burst attacker as well as a good stationary anti attacker too.2)I2 on Needle/Press/Needle.3)Stationary xcalius for attack and anti attack.
Defense:
Kerbeus K2 Gravity/Heavy/Knuckle/Down Survive/Press/Needle/Defense(universally known to be good)
Unicrest Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle/Down Survive/Press/Needle/Defense(universally known to be good)
Yegdrion Y2 Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle/Down Press/Needle/Survive/Defense(universally known to be good)
Unicrest U2 Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle/Down Press/Needle/Survive/Defense(tested by Monodragon)
Evipero Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle/Down Press/Needle/Survive/Defense(tested by mono dragon)
Doomscizor D2 Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle/Down Press/Defense/Survive/Needle.(tested by shaady)
Reasons:
Added Down since its the best burst defense Disc in the meta.Also added Defense since it has slighty less ko defense and more stamina than needle and press.Added E and U2 since they are good for pure defense.added d2 since its ok for defense.
Things to look into testing:
3)Weight for Defense
==KO Defense==
Evipero Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle Unite.(since its good for defense so should be good for Ko defense too)
Unicrest U2 Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle Unite.(since its good for defense so should be good for Ko defense too)
Unicrest Heavy/Gravity/Knuckle Unite.(since its good for defense so should be good for Ko defense too)
Things to look into testing:
1)G2 for KO defense.3)J2 for ko defense
Stamina:
Doomscizor D2 Spread/Gravity/Knuckle Revolve/Survive/Defense(tested by shaady)
Unicrest Spread/Gravity/Knuckle Revolve/Survive/Defense(universally known to be good)
Kerbeus Spread/Gravity/Knuckle Revolve/Survive/Defense(universally known to be good it will posiibily get banned soon)
Yegdrion Spread/Gravity/Knuckle Revolve/Survive/Defense(universally known to be good it will posiibily get banned soon)
Reasons:
Revolve is by far the best driver for stamina type combos. Survive can work as well on stamina combos but It isn't as good as revolve but has more burst defense.added defense since it has almost equal stamina to survive and more ko defense.
==Mobile Stamina==
Unicrest Spread/Gravity/Knuckle Zephyr/Accel(universally known to be good)
Kerbeus Spread/Gravity/Knuckle Zephyr/Accel(universally known to be good it will posiibily get banned soon)
Yegdrion Spread/Gravity/Knuckle Zephyr/Accel(universally known to be good it will posiibily get banned soon)
Things to look into testing:
1)D2 for Mobile Stamina.2)W2 for mobile stamina.3)Extensive testing of h2 for mobile stamina.
Balance:
Empty but i will tell which things are needed to test for it:1)valtryek/Roktavor on Unite.
==Possible Competitive List==
With the release of Switchstrike beys a lot of older parts have been outclassed but since they haven't appeared in tournaments yet so i am going to add them to this list. This list is being made to help anyone who has new parts and wants to do testing. Credits to @[kjrules17] for testing, list will increase as more testing will be done.
==ATTACK==
==KO Attack==
Roktavor Heavy/Gravity/4/2/6 Glaive/Cross/Vortex Extreme/Variable
Xcalius Heavy/Gravity/2/4/6 Glaive/Cross/Vortex Extreme/Variable
Valtryek V2 Heavy/Gravity/2/4/6 Glaive/Cross/Vortex Extreme/Variable
Valtryek Heavy/Gravity/2/4/6 Glaive/Cross/Vortex Extreme/Variable
Spryzen S2 Heavy/Gravity/2/4/6 Glaive/Cross/Vortex Extreme/Variable
==Mixed Attack==
Valtryek Heavy/Gravity/2/4/6 Glaive/Cross/Vortex Accel/Zephyr
Roktavor Heavy/Gravity/2/4/6 Glaive/Cross/Vortex Accel/Zephyr
Zeutron Z2 Heavy/Gravity/2/4/6 Glaive/Cross/Vortex Accel/Zephyr
Valtryek V2 Heavy/Gravity/2/4/6 Glaive/Cross/Vortex Accel/Zephyr
Spryzen S2 Heavy/Gravity/2/4/6 Glaive/Cross/Vortex Accel/Zephyr
==Stationary Burst Attack=
Valtryek Heavy/Gravity/2/4/6 Glaive/Cross/Vortex Weight/Orbit/Atomic/Needle
Roktavor Gravity/Heavy/2/4/6 Glaive/Cross/Vortex Weight/Orbit Atomic/Needle
==DEFENSE==
Gaianon G2 2/4/6 Glaive/Cross Orbit/Atomic
W3 2/4/6 Glaive/Cross Orbit/Atomic
==STAMINA==
Jormuntor J2 Knuckle/Spread/Gravity/Heavy/2/4 Glaive/Cross Orbit/Atomic(best stamina layer for now, it also has quite an offensive upside and has the best defense out of all stamina types, its defense is comparable to g2)
Unicrest Knuckle/Spread/Gravity/Heavy/Spread/2/4 Glaive/Cross Orbit/Atomic
A2 Knuckle/Spread/Gravity/Heavy/Spread/2/4 Glaive/Cross Orbit/Atomic
Kerbeus Knuckle/Spread/Gravity/Heavy/Spread/2/4 Glaive/Cross Orbit/Atomic
Yegdrion Knuckle/Spread/Gravity/Heavy/Spread/2/4 Glaive/Cross Orbit/Atomic
==Balance==
R3 Spread/Gravity/Heavy/Knuckle/2/4 Glaive/Cross Accel/Zephyr
F3 Polish/Yell/Spread/2/4 Glaive/Cross Hold/Atomic/Variable(worn)
L2 Polish/Yell/2/4 Glaive/Cross Hold/Variable(Worn)
(Jan. 22, 2018 5:37 PM)MWF Wrote: a potential defense combo could be Q2.2V.N
(Jan. 22, 2018 9:34 PM)MonoDragon Wrote:Actually 2 and 4 have equal weights sometimes 4 is heavy and sometimes 2 is heavier.stamina wise 4 might have a bit more stamina but this needs testing We havent tried hasbro q2 for defense yet and yea from the current testing yegdrion seems to be good for stamina only(Jan. 22, 2018 5:37 PM)MWF Wrote: a potential defense combo could be Q2.2V.N
4 is heavier which will grant greater Knock-Out resistance and it has greater stamina with comparable Burst resistance. Vortex would kill Life-After-Death which is critical for Defense Types that don't have great Stamina so it would be better to go with Cross. Q2 is only decent compared to Layers like Yegdrigon too.
(Jan. 24, 2018 12:07 AM)MWF Wrote: I2.any core disk.N is surprisingly good with defense. it has a slight force smash and will bounce up to decrease burst damage. I tried it with 6 but not with 2 yet but any core disk should work. It can withstand R.G.X
(Jan. 24, 2018 2:31 AM)Maximum beys Wrote:(Jan. 24, 2018 12:07 AM)MWF Wrote: I2.any core disk.N is surprisingly good with defense. it has a slight force smash and will bounce up to decrease burst damage. I tried it with 6 but not with 2 yet but any core disk should work. It can withstand R.G.X
This sounds like we need this tested, any suggested combo's?
(Jan. 26, 2018 7:36 AM)Rebel Blader Wrote: Updated the competitive list. Removed S3 it loses against attack very easily and has bad stamina. Added j2 for stamina and g2 for defense. Will look into that i2 combo that is being disscussed when its testing will begin.also added l2 in balance