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Hasbro Wyvron Testing

Feb. 13, 2017  2:36 AM
 
Wyvron Gravity Survive 

Equipment: BB-33 Black Standard Stadium, Long winder x2. 
Win% does not include double burst finishes
All parts used in this test are hasbro

Wyvron Gravity Survive Vs Unicrest Heavy Defense 
Order of beyblades being launched Alternate each round.

0-1 BF
0-2 SF
0-3 BF
1-3 SF
1-4 BF
1-5 BF
1-6 SF
1-7 SF
1-8 BF
2-8 SF
W.G.S - SF:2
U.H.D - SF:3, BF:5

W.G.S win rate 20%
U.H.D win rate 80%


Wyvron Gravity Survive vs Valtryek V2 Knuckle Zypher
V2 launched second. 

0-1 BF
DBF
1-1 BF
1-2 BF
1-3 BF
DBF
1-4 BF
1-5 BF
1-6 BF
1-7 BF (V2 bad launch)
DBF
1-8 BF
1-9 BF
W.G.S - BF:1
V2.K.Z - BF:9
DBF:3

W.G.S win rate 10%
V2.K.Z win rate 90%


Wyvron Gravity Survive vs Valtryek Armed Defense
V launched second

0-1 BF
DBF
1-1 BF
2-1 SF
3-1 BF
3-2 BF
3-3 BF
4-3 BF
DBF
5-3 BF
6-3 SF
DBF
6-4 BF

W.G.S - SF:2, BF:4
V.A.D - BF:4
DBF:3


W.G.S win rate 60%
V.A.D win rate 40%


Wyvron Gravity Survive Vs Spryzen S2 Limited Accel
S2 launched second

1-0 BF
1-1 BF
1-2 SF
2-2 SF
2-3 BF
3-3 SF
3-4 BF
3-5 BF
3-6 BF
3-7 BF


W.G.S - SF:2, BF:1
S2.L.A - SF:1, BF:6


W.G.S win rate 30%
S2.L.A win rate 70%


Overall


Wyvron Gravity Survive
Wins 12 Losses 28 DBF 6
SF wins 6
BF wins 6
SF Losses 4
BF Losses 24


Total win rate 30%


Wasn’t able to do much against the current hasbro stamina king Unicrest and was destroyed by valtryek V2, it did do well against Valtryek so there is maybe a sliver of hope for it. As for now Unicrest is the go to bey for stamina/defense in the hasbro meta.
Feb. 13, 2017  5:58 AM
 
Wow finally a formal test of Wyvorn! Thanks a RakutenLot for tests!
Feb. 13, 2017  9:25 AM
 
Have you done any solo spin times for wyvron and unicrest? I've been (slowly) doing tests using ring - survive (this actually has better endurance than a gravity survive/revolve set up amazingly and revolve is just out classed by survive in shear stamina apparently) and so far (not very extensive as of yet but there seems to be a clear difference between the two), Wyvron - Ring - Survive actually spins for at least 10 seconds more. This could be luck in that I have a very well balanced wyvron, and maybe a poor unicrest layer, but I find unicrest is actually harder to launch than wyvron, which, I think, is why I can't get unicrest to last as long. I'll do more solo spins tonight and post the results in the next couple of days, but it seems that even kerbeus out spins unicrest on Ring - Survive (Although this wasn't a real test just did a couple of timed spins w/ the kerbeus layer, it out spun the unicrest by about 2 seconds.) As I said I'll do more tests tonight to see if it was just bad launching w/ unicrest, or if there is actually some difficulty in launching (maybe this is actually a feature of the unicrest layer to stop over-launching (launching too powerfully) to take advantage of its typing. If this is in fact true, then that would explain the Hasbro Unicrest's dominance in stamina throughout the meta.
But I am curious as to whether anyone else has had these same, or even different results. Im quite interested to see the solo spin times for other copies of the same bey.
Feb. 13, 2017  9:41 AM
 
(Feb. 13, 2017  9:25 AM)TwitchK9 Wrote: Have you done any solo spin times for wyvron and unicrest? I've been (slowly) doing tests using ring - survive (this actually has better endurance than a gravity survive/revolve set up amazingly and revolve is just out classed by survive in shear stamina apparently) and so far (not very extensive as of yet but there seems to be a clear difference between the two), Wyvron - Ring - Survive actually spins for at least 10 seconds more. This could be luck in that I have a very well balanced wyvron, and maybe a poor unicrest layer, but I find unicrest is actually harder to launch than wyvron, which, I think, is why I can't get unicrest to last as long. I'll do more solo spins tonight and post the results in the next couple of days, but it seems that even kerbeus out spins unicrest on Ring - Survive (Although this wasn't a real test just did a couple of timed spins w/ the kerbeus layer, it out spun the unicrest by about 2 seconds.) As I said I'll do more tests tonight to see if it was just bad launching w/ unicrest, or if there is actually some difficulty in launching (maybe this is actually a feature of the unicrest layer to stop over-launching (launching too powerfully) to take advantage of its typing. If this is in fact true, then that would explain the Hasbro Unicrest's dominance in stamina throughout the meta.
But I am curious as to whether anyone else has had these same, or even different results. Im quite interested to see the solo spin times for other copies of the same bey.

Solo spin times don't usually mean anything as they don't usually equate to the same result as a battle
Feb. 13, 2017  11:49 AM
 
(Feb. 13, 2017  9:41 AM)mj9 Wrote: Solo spin times don't usually mean anything as they don't usually equate to the same result as a battle

What would be good opponents to test stamina? Or just put a wyvron and a unicrest on the same combination, alternating between rounds of course, and see which is better?
Feb. 13, 2017  4:29 PM
 
Why is no one using revolve? Is it not tight enough?
Feb. 13, 2017  6:08 PM
 
(Feb. 13, 2017  4:29 PM)Jimmyjazz39 Wrote: Why is no one using revolve? Is it not tight enough?

The Hasbro revolve isnt that good.  

To quote the wiki: "Survive is useful in Stamina, especially compared to Hasbro's version of the Revolve Performance Tip which spins worse than the original TAKARA-TOMY model."
http://beyblade.wikia.com/wiki/Nepstrius..._Dual_Pack

Survive and Defense are the best performance tips for stamina right now 
Feb. 13, 2017  7:22 PM
 
(Feb. 13, 2017  6:08 PM)ali12345456 Wrote: The Hasbro revolve isnt that good.  

To quote the wiki: "Survive is useful in Stamina, especially compared to Hasbro's version of the Revolve Performance Tip which spins worse than the original TAKARA-TOMY model."
http://beyblade.wikia.com/wiki/Nepstrius..._Dual_Pack

Survive and Defense are the best performance tips for stamina right now 

Actually information on Beywiki/Beyblade Wiki comes from WBO only and I don't think it has been much tested.

So #tryit lol.

BTW if anyone have TT Deathsyther and Hasbro Unicrast. Can you compare there spin time and try battling mirror D vs U combination to test
Feb. 13, 2017  8:00 PM
 
I don't get why everyone thinks Hasbro revolve is that bad, mine spins really freely. Honestly the only dealbreaker is it's weak spring.
Feb. 14, 2017  2:58 AM
 
(Feb. 13, 2017  8:00 PM)TrainiacJ Wrote: I don't get why everyone thinks Hasbro revolve is that bad, mine spins really freely. Honestly the only dealbreaker is it's weak spring.

We're talking about how long revolve can spin for in a bey combination, not how free spinning the "revolve" component is. As far as I know Hasbro revolve tips aren't sticky. But it is definitely outclassed in pure stamina...plus it has proven to burst a lot easier than any other stamina or defense tip. Although a really good mould could be used competitively, I doubt one that usable would stay in good condition for long